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Nick record
Posts: 77
Stephenville, Texas, US


Share your experiences on duo shoots. What was the purpose? Setting? How much fun was it? Would you do it again? Was it harder to cooperate with another model?

I'm wanting to do a duo shoot soon.
Sep 11 13 07:48 am  Link  Quote 
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Rudolph Uhlman Photo
Posts: 164
Pendleton, Oregon, US


Like any couples shoots there has to be chemistry between the two.  As a photographer shooting couples that have just met can be awkward as you have to create the chemistry between the two. If you really want to learn how to work well with others and create that chemistry on the spot I suggest taking an acting class.
Sep 11 13 09:40 am  Link  Quote 
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Axioma
Posts: 6,762
Gent, East Flanders, Belgium


Rudolph Uhlman Photo wrote:
Like any couples shoots there has to be chemistry between the two.

Personally I find the "chemistry" statement is such bullshit. Where there are 2 good models that can work together on a basis of basic trust and professionalism, with a good photographer (and other teammembers if applicable), there will be good images.

Sep 11 13 09:46 am  Link  Quote 
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Connor Photography
Posts: 6,369
Elkton, Maryland, US


Nick record wrote:
Share your experiences on duo shoots. What was the purpose? Setting? How much fun was it? Would you do it again? Was it harder to cooperate with another model?

I'm wanting to do a duo shoot soon.

I was told it is a great way to find a date.  You can try it on the set without spending any money.  Some time I feel like a match maker.  Thinking about charge the models for my service not for my photographic skills, but my matching talents.  big_smile

Sep 11 13 09:50 am  Link  Quote 
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Connor Photography
Posts: 6,369
Elkton, Maryland, US


Axioma wrote:
Personally I find the "chemistry" statement is such bullshit.

It sounds like more kosher that way.  Chemistry means for the potential meet after the shoot.  big_smile

Sep 11 13 09:54 am  Link  Quote 
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FranklinElsey
Posts: 71
Omaha, Nebraska, US


I had a lot of fun doing it. It really helped that I knew the person I was modeling with beforehand because the shoot got kind of intimate with the posing. Well, you can see my avatar lol
Sep 11 13 09:59 am  Link  Quote 
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FlirtynFun Photography
Posts: 12,876
Houston, Texas, US


Axioma wrote:
Personally I find the "chemistry" statement is such bullshit. Where there are 2 good models that can work together on a basis of basic trust and professionalism, with a good photographer (and other teammembers if applicable), there will be good images.

I'd disagree. A LOT depends on what genre you're shooting and how good the models are at acting.
If you're shooting fashion and the two models need to just stand, smile and hold hands and pretend they just met...that's a scenario which would be easy to create.

If you have a male and female model in a simulated sex scene showing a massive amount of passion, you either need models who are EXTREMELY good actors or you need a boyfriend/girlfriend, wife/husband team.
(I recently had to shoot a book for this and the only models who made the cut were married/dating)
this can be the difference between "good images" and "great images"

Sep 11 13 10:23 am  Link  Quote 
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Axioma
Posts: 6,762
Gent, East Flanders, Belgium


FlirtynFun Photography wrote:
I'd disagree. A LOT depends on what genre you're shooting and how good the models are at acting.
If you're shooting fashion and the two models need to just stand, smile and hold hands and pretend they just met...that's a scenario which would be easy to create.

If you have a male and female model in a simulated sex scene showing a massive amount of passion, you either need models who are EXTREMELY good actors or you need a boyfriend/girlfriend, wife/husband team.
(I recently had to shoot a book for this and the only models who made the cut were married/dating)
this can be the difference between "good images" and "great images"

To each their own. I suppose that if you indeed want to produce a campy sort of homemade softerotic look, married/dating people are a way to go.

But there are other ways to go too. I thought of this video from the top of my head. Something tells me that these actors/models are not married/dating. They're just professionals, look fantastic, understand the brief and have a great set and a great team to work with.

http://www.revistagq.com/videos/50-somb … -film/1601 (nsfw)

But I guess if your goal is to cop a look at real couples doing hot stuff or being able to be close to another model you find hot, then that all doesn't matter. Like I said: to each their own.

Sep 11 13 10:50 am  Link  Quote 
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Wolfy4u
Posts: 1,076
Grand Junction, Colorado, US


Personally, I find that nothing works as well as a talented, experienced and creative model/models. People in real relationships have one way that they create sensuousness. What if you want it to happen with a different twist, then you need
professionalism. It's possible to get in the middle of the session and find that the approach is not working, then you need to start all over with a new approach.
Sep 11 13 11:05 am  Link  Quote 
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Rudolph Uhlman Photo
Posts: 164
Pendleton, Oregon, US


Axioma wrote:

Personally I find the "chemistry" statement is such bullshit. Where there are 2 good models that can work together on a basis of basic trust and professionalism, with a good photographer (and other teammembers if applicable), there will be good images.

What you have described is the chemistry I am talking about.

Sep 11 13 11:11 am  Link  Quote 
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Lovely Day Media
Posts: 3,784
Vineland, New Jersey, US


I have shot couples before, both those who are an actual couple and those just meeting each other that day (in one case, I know it was the first time ... in another, I have no idea).

The premise is that it has to be fun. With actual couples, it's a little awkward for me because they know each other so I'm sorta the odd man out. With couples that are just meeting, we are much more on equal footing because I don't know either of them beyond their MM name/profile and/or whatever was said before meeting.

One of my couples has now been shot twice. It's subject to debate which time was more fun but they both played along nicely. The other actual couple was a lot of fun, too. I got them into all sorts of situations and things. If I had more experience, it might've been even more fun.

All of the shoots were supposed to be "engagement" shoots. With the couples who were just meeting, I asked them to act like they were about to kiss each other. Before the end of the shoot, they were comfortable enough with each other to actually do it. smile I don't know how much tongue action was going on (likely none) but they did well and the pictures were nice (at least they weren't the problem).

Just have fun ... set necessary boundaries but have fun.

ETA ... the hardest part was with the models who didn't know each other and coordinating a time when we could all get together. With one couple, we decided to meet in Philadelphia. On that day, they had some kind of event going on that I didn't know about. Most of the streets were blocked off and there was nowhere to park within 6 or 8 blocks (and nowhere that was free). Billions of texts later, we moved the shoot to another area and still had fun. Communication is key.
Sep 11 13 03:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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Caitin Bre
Posts: 1,798
Naperville, Illinois, US


Nick record wrote:
Share your experiences on duo shoots. What was the purpose? Setting? How much fun was it? Would you do it again? Was it harder to cooperate with another model?

I'm wanting to do a duo shoot soon.

Share your experiences on duo shoots. Overall very good.

What was the purpose? Art.

Setting? Studio and on location.

How much fun was it? A lot.

Would you do it again? Yes. Have one coming up soon.

Was it harder to cooperate with another model? Depending on true intentions.

I'm wanting to do a duo shoot soon. Good Luck. It can be very rewarding.

Sep 11 13 03:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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V Nixie
Posts: 2,046
Los Angeles, California, US


Nick record wrote:
Share your experiences on duo shoots. What was the purpose? Setting? How much fun was it? Would you do it again? Was it harder to cooperate with another model?

I'm wanting to do a duo shoot soon.

I've done a couple fashion/editorial shoots with a male. Pretty uneventful, all outside on location.
Only male/female nude shoot I've done was with a gay dancer. We were shooting art nudes in a studio with props like cloth and giant bird eggs, flowers and other odd but beautiful things. I had a really great time because he was a dancer and I'm a mover and we seemed like we'd shot together tons before. I would love to shoot with that particular male again. That being said I was Very aware at all times where the penis was wink. I don't think I would ever do nudes with a straight male.
I've done plenty of female shoots both clothed and nude. Sometimes we moved together perfectly and sometimes there was this weird feeling that she was doing something totally different than me. In both times there were different levels of experience or similar levels. While I don't believe there has to be chemistry per say, I do think that some models work better together than others.

Sep 11 13 06:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
John Carman
Posts: 365
San Francisco, California, US


Axioma wrote:

Personally I find the "chemistry" statement is such bullshit. Where there are 2 good models that can work together on a basis of basic trust and professionalism, with a good photographer (and other teammembers if applicable), there will be good images.

From experience I can say it's not bullshit. I've had consistently bad experiences shooting male-female couples who don't know each other well. Compounded, in a few cases, by the fact that the male model was relatively new to all this. And aggravated in one case by the fact that the male model was gay. The closer the woman got to him, the more he reflexively pulled away.

I've had mainly satisfactory experiences with couples who knew each other well.

Sep 11 13 11:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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Axioma
Posts: 6,762
Gent, East Flanders, Belgium


John Carman wrote:

From experience I can say it's not bullshit. I've had consistently bad experiences shooting male-female couples who don't know each other well. Compounded, in a few cases, by the fact that the male model was relatively new to all this. And aggravated in one case by the fact that the male model was gay. The closer the woman got to him, the more he reflexively pulled away.

I've had mainly satisfactory experiences with couples who knew each other well.

remember that I clearly said "good models", not newbies/amateurs wink.

Sep 12 13 08:26 am  Link  Quote 
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