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DicePhotography
Posts: 57
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore


I feel like most people are just taking advantage of the fact that I'm doing TFCD to get edited pictures and decent quality photos. Some even have the thick skin to ask me to provide clothes and make-up artist and a hard-copy portfolio as part of the TFCD.

If this continues, I clearly see no way I am going to survive in this industry because every "experienced" model is just going to trample over me.

Anyways, this is just how I feel. So please review my port and see if you think I'm at the standard where I can charge my models a little.

Please help. I feel like I'm losing a lot of motivation because of these situations I face with almost everyday
Sep 12 13 11:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Good Egg Productions
Posts: 15,441
Orlando, Florida, US


If they will pay, then you can charge them.

Will they pay?
Sep 12 13 11:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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Drew Smith Photography
Posts: 5,209
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom


DicePhotography wrote:
I feel like most people are just taking advantage of the fact that I'm doing TFCD to get edited pictures and decent quality photos. Some even have the thick skin to ask me to provide clothes and make-up artist and a hard-copy portfolio as part of the TFCD.

If this continues, I clearly see no way I am going to survive in this industry because every "experienced" model is just going to trample over me.

Anyways, this is just how I feel. So please review my port and see if you think I'm at the standard where I can charge my models a little.

Please help. I feel like I'm losing a lot of motivation because of these situations I face with almost everyday

You've been on MM 3 weeks and you state in your Bio that you are 'new' to the 'industry'.

It's my understanding that very, very few photographers are able to charge MM models for shoots. 

If you feel they are taking 'advantage' of you then instead of looking to charge them just stop letting them take advantage of you. Nobody is forcing you to shoot with them. State your shoot terms and conditions and leave it at that.

If I were you I'd be working towards finding paying clients to charge and hiring models for said shoots. That way everybody wins.

Sep 13 13 12:00 am  Link  Quote 
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DicePhotography
Posts: 57
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore


Good Egg Productions wrote:
If they will pay, then you can charge them.

Will they pay?

that's the problem.

Sep 13 13 12:05 am  Link  Quote 
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DicePhotography
Posts: 57
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore


Drew Smith Photography wrote:

You've been on MM 3 weeks and you state in your Bio that you are 'new' to the 'industry'.

It's my understanding that very, very few photographers are able to charge MM models for shoots. 

If you feel they are taking 'advantage' of you then instead of looking to charge them just stop letting them take advantage of you. Nobody is forcing you to shoot with them. State your shoot terms and conditions and leave it at that.

If I were you I'd be working towards finding paying clients to charge and hiring models for said shoots. That way everybody wins.

The models are not even from MM, they are from facebook. They are gonna blacklist me.

The problem is, in my country, if it's free, then only people will want it

Sep 13 13 12:06 am  Link  Quote 
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Good Egg Productions
Posts: 15,441
Orlando, Florida, US


DicePhotography wrote:

Good Egg Productions wrote:
If they will pay, then you can charge them.

Will they pay?

that's the problem.

Then that's your answer.

Sep 13 13 12:10 am  Link  Quote 
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DicePhotography
Posts: 57
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore


Good Egg Productions wrote:

I started this with passion, so I guess I should not let money get in the way...but some people can be so annoying tho

Sep 13 13 12:11 am  Link  Quote 
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B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25,319
Bath, England, United Kingdom


Charging models for shoot is a very very VERY poor business plan.

You need to find people with real money who will pay for images. Models assume they should get images for "free" because they're pretty and to an extent that is how it works if they're pretty enough.

As for your skills - you have some nice images and a good eye but I don't see much evidence in your portfolio just yet that you are ready to charge anybody.



Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com
Sep 13 13 01:41 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DicePhotography
Posts: 57
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore


That Italian Guy wrote:
Charging models for shoot is a very very VERY poor business plan.

You need to find people with real money who will pay for images. Models assume they should get images for "free" because they're pretty and to an extent that is how it works if they're pretty enough.

As for your skills - you have some nice images and a good eye but I don't see much evidence in your portfolio just yet that you are ready to charge anybody.



Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

I see, thank you sir

Sep 13 13 03:47 am  Link  Quote 
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