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Retoucher
Pictus
Posts: 991
Teresópolis, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil


agorka wrote:
Hello everyone!
I'm the author of 3DLutCreator.
Finally I've got my MM account approved, so I can answer your questions, you have ones.

Hi,
Nice to see you around, I do not like FaceBook...

Oct 27 13 04:37 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
agorka
Posts: 4
Moscow, Moscow, Russia


Pictus wrote:

Hi,
Nice to see you around, I do not like FaceBook...

Glad to see you too!
If anyone want to try the program, you can e-mail me at 3dlutcreator@gmail.com

Oleg.

Oct 27 13 07:18 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Sean Baker Photo
Posts: 8,036
Silver Spring, Maryland, US


agorka wrote:
Hello everyone!
I'm the author of 3DLutCreator.
Finally I've got my MM account approved, so I can answer your questions, you have ones.

Welcome to MM -- it's great to have you around!

I have four questions off-hand....

1.) What is the (tentative - I do this too and know how it goes!) timeline for a public release?
2.) What (ish) will the pricing be?
3.) Is there any possibility of a native Macintosh version in the next 3-6 months?
4.) Any chance of moving to 3D projection of the LUT, or will it remain 2D?

Thanks in all cases for making what looks to be a much-needed / long-neglected tool for the serious PS user.

Oct 27 13 07:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
agorka
Posts: 4
Moscow, Moscow, Russia


Sean Baker Photo wrote:

Welcome to MM -- it's great to have you around!

I have four questions off-hand....

1.) What is the (tentative - I do this too and know how it goes!) timeline for a public release?
2.) What (ish) will the pricing be?
3.) Is there any possibility of a native Macintosh version in the next 3-6 months?
4.) Any chance of moving to 3D projection of the LUT, or will it remain 2D?

Thanks in all cases for making what looks to be a much-needed / long-neglected tool for the serious PS user.

1.) There's no real timeline yet, but there going to be stream featuring this program at November 19th and November 22nd. Both of them are going to be in russian, but I hope to shape the program into public beta before that date.
2.) It's $50 for now, and will be in the near future.
3.) It would require huge amount of luck. I have a plan in my mind, but there's a lots of things that can go wrong. So I'd say the answer is 95% no.
4.) I'm going to add another grid, so you'll be able to apply corrections at 2 luminance levels, one for shadows and one for highlights. It seems to me that going further is too complicated for a human perception, maybe until the moment when we the holographic displays arrive, who knows smile

Thank you for your interest!

Oct 27 13 11:07 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Mike Needham Retouching
Posts: 369
Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom


It occurs to me that this project would be ideal for a Kickstarter.com funding. It could be given chance to gain momentum and the advantage of a huge user base of Photoshop folk on various forums and the like to turn people towards it.
Oct 28 13 09:58 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Clear Touch
Posts: 66
New York, New York, US


I've started using LUTs quite extensively for the past 6-7 months now (I have a collection of about 50-60 of them). I have 3 photos in my MM portfolio where I've used them. Mostly just artistic choice rather than emulating a certain look. However I've found that SOME of them, in the right blending mode, give the image a painterly effect (that wasn't present when I got done retouching).

Examples:

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130908/10/522cb22a7f11e_m.jpg

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130824/20/52198021e81ce_m.jpg

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130823/21/521834783c632_m.jpg
Nov 03 13 09:58 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
miguelb
Posts: 2
Madrid, Madrid, Spain


Dear Clear Touch,

Can you please indicate where to find those collections of LUTs?

TIA,

Clear Touch wrote:
I've started using LUTs quite extensively for the past 6-7 months now (I have a collection of about 50-60 of them). I have 3 photos in my MM portfolio where I've used them. Mostly just artistic choice rather than emulating a certain look. However I've found that SOME of them, in the right blending mode, give the image a painterly effect (that wasn't present when I got done retouching).

Examples:

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130908/10/522cb22a7f11e_m.jpg

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130824/20/52198021e81ce_m.jpg

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130823/21/521834783c632_m.jpg

Nov 12 13 06:08 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Mike Needham Retouching
Posts: 369
Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom


I have found .look files all around the web, no doubt they are a little tricky to find, but they are there. A lot of them are free and I have found a few paid ones.

Speedgrade comes with about an extra 30 or so if you have a CC and can download it, just for the presets and then uninstall.
Nov 12 13 07:36 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


Several updates from the last post.

New.
1. Curves.

http://cs314827.vk.me/v314827425/6e57/nDQJG7PIl40.jpg

2. Drag and drop saved curves adjustment (acv)

3. Split toning.

http://cs314827.vk.me/v314827174/6f25/O250AobTnqo.jpg

4. Degrading. (Video in russian)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1cn81QsaFs
Dec 16 13 01:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
WSC
Posts: 35
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


Alpha version for MAC is out. All the testers welcome.
Jan 04 14 02:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
WSC
Posts: 35
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


Adobe recommends.

"3DLUT Creator is one package to create them, or SpeedGrade."

http://forums.adobe.com/message/5964682

And for hamsters.  http://colorlookup.blog.com/
Jan 04 14 02:29 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
George Thomson
Posts: 698
Concord, California, US


Cool !

I went in a bit of a different way.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1558596_650716224969475_968382859_n.jpg
4K test image shown above from "hdtimelapse": http://www.hdtimelapse.net/content/HDti … _hirez.jpg


Here are a few recipes created with VDi (also LUT.Cube-friendly)
Download LUTs: http://goo.gl/VuUZVn
Jan 05 14 12:52 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Angelo Dau
Posts: 136
Sassari, Sardegna, Italy


care to share the LUT's created?
Jan 08 14 12:25 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
WSC
Posts: 35
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


Sure, what do you need?
Jan 08 14 01:35 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Robert Randall
Posts: 13,842
Chicago, Illinois, US


I've been using the 3D color tool in CS6, pretty much just playing around with the presets and trying to figure out how to use agorka's software. One observation about the presets that are bundled with CS6, as well as those I've downloaded from agorka's FB page, confuses me. They are all so heavy handed, meaning the results are so extreme as to be unusable. What am I missing here?
Feb 09 14 09:44 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
D A N I E L
Posts: 133
Silverdale, Washington, US


I think it's just a matter of taste of those who create the presets.
Feb 09 14 09:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Han Sam
Posts: 141
Guangzhou, Guangdong, China


I never try it before. But I wanna ask, any Luts can creat Teal/ Orange color like Hollywood movies???
Feb 10 14 06:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


Yes, they can. Give me a reference, and I will make you one.
Feb 10 14 06:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Han Sam
Posts: 141
Guangzhou, Guangdong, China


Tulack wrote:
Yes, they can. Give me a reference, and I will make you one.

Thks. Any comment about this "look"

Feb 10 14 07:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


Do you have an image you want to look like that?
Feb 10 14 08:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Han Sam
Posts: 141
Guangzhou, Guangdong, China


Tulack wrote:
Do you have an image you want to look like that?

I searching for approaches, not for a specific file.

Feb 10 14 09:21 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


Luts are not flexible. Even different color temperature, would give you different result. What would work for one image, wouldn't work for other. You create LUT, you apply it, and then you throw it away, because it would not work on anything else. Why aren't you get DEMO version of the software and play with it? If you have questions, I will try to answer.
Feb 10 14 09:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
cwwmbm
Posts: 426
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Han Sam wrote:

I searching for approaches, not for a specific file.

The approach is to make parts of the image orange, and other parts - teal. Usually people go for orange highlights / teal shadows. Seriously, that's about it as far as approach goes.

Feb 11 14 10:44 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Sean Baker Photo
Posts: 8,036
Silver Spring, Maryland, US


Tulack wrote:
Luts are not flexible. Even different color temperature, would give you different result. What would work for one image, wouldn't work for other. You create LUT, you apply it, and then you throw it away, because it would not work on anything else. Why aren't you get DEMO version of the software and play with it? If you have questions, I will try to answer.

IMO for photographers (or those who have good relationships with their photographer clients), this may be a workflow issue then.  My advocation for quite some time has been to apply two layers of color calibration, which at the quality available is likely to hit the mark for most retouchers on here and only require tweaks for the real sticklers [Bob among them!].  To get to the meat of it, the workflow would be to shoot with whatever color balances in available (respecting color ratios and that they will still have an impact on the result), to shoot a color calibrator on set under the model's light, and to then correct for that lighting as the first step of post production.  This normalizes the shot color and allows that when you next apply the LUT to the image it will look very very much as would be 'expected'.

Now of course if Adobe'd had the vision to integrate something like a LUT builder within PS, you'd be able to make any little tweaks necessary in a completely nondestructive fashion, but that's a battle for another day.

$.02

Feb 11 14 02:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


Sean Baker Photo wrote:
IMO for photographers (or those who have good relationships with their photographer clients), this may be a workflow issue then.

There is no issue. You get one image from the set. Create LUT for it. Apply to the rest, trash the LUT.

Sean Baker Photo wrote:
Now of course if Adobe'd had the vision to integrate something like a LUT builder within PS, you'd be able to make any little tweaks necessary in a completely nondestructive fashion, but that's a battle for another day.

$.02

No need also. This thread about such program.

Feb 11 14 03:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


There were many updates since the last post. Among others there is soft proofing and gamut check.

http://cs620026.vk.me/v620026174/2b28/f-iTbCkFdFQ.jpg

A/L and B/L grid

http://cs620026.vk.me/v620026174/386f/gGl3WgKbSuo.jpg

Masking. (RGB, Luminosity, Saturation, Temperature, Color)

http://cs620218.vk.me/v620218174/1b69/Qq2I7B9wlTU.jpg

http://cs620218.vk.me/v620218174/1b9b/u9Xrmb5cK7o.jpg

In couple of days there would be price rise.
Apr 24 14 11:16 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 32,828
Los Angeles, California, US


Apr 24 14 11:31 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


smile It's way ahead since that overview.
Apr 24 14 01:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
D A N
Posts: 53
Seattle, Washington, US


Which version are those screen captures from?
Apr 24 14 11:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


D A N wrote:
Which version are those screen captures from?

Coming update of 1.0.0.0

Apr 25 14 09:12 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Digital Dimension Photo
Posts: 34
Jacksonville, Florida, US


Looking forward to the update, any timeline on it being available?
Apr 26 14 04:52 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


Digital Dimension Photo wrote:
Looking forward to the update, any timeline on it being available?

Soon.

Another feature in the new update. Color palette (before after)

http://cs620219.vk.me/v620219174/74c4/m8kLBc-Fpzs.jpg

Apr 26 14 09:25 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


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Apr 29 14 02:15 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


Waveform and  Vectorscope


http://coub.com/view/1i64v
Apr 29 14 02:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Gulag
Posts: 1,233
Duluth, Georgia, US


It seems to be an overkill.
Apr 29 14 03:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


Well, it's beta. This is the point. To hear from you. For me, seven color models is too much... Originally program was planned for photographers. Right now many vedeographers use it and they asking.
Apr 29 14 03:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


It's finally out. With all the updates. Check it out.

http://3dlutcreator.com/
May 06 14 08:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 32,828
Los Angeles, California, US


Tulack wrote:
It's finally out. With all the updates. Check it out.

http://3dlutcreator.com/

It looks interesting but I think the English grammar on your web page could use a little tweaking if you want it to sound as if written by a native speaker. If that matters to you.

May 06 14 09:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


"how can i unless someone explains it to me"
Please tell what need to be fixed. Or may be I should ask my wife first.
May 06 14 09:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tulack
Posts: 547
Albuquerque, New Mexico, US


Thanks to Paul Williams introduction video in English.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jkRj-_dtQI

And one more thing. Since now it's widely used for video, here is an example. Color grading made with 3d Lut Creator by Benoit Cote.

http://vimeo.com/95140115
May 26 14 08:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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