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Autumn Andrea
Posts: 10
West Jordan, Utah, US


Do you use your real name on MM?
Why or why not?
Jan 02 14 06:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ken Warren Photography
Posts: 643
GLENMOORE, Pennsylvania, US


I would not recommend any model use their real name on MM or any social networking site where they identify as a model, because it creates an immediate, and very easy to trace, connection between you as a model and your actual life. For instance, knowing your name and state, I can easily locate you on Facebook, which tells me the name of your boyfriend, the high school you attended, etc. An actual creepy individual could stalk you to a fare thee well...
Jan 02 14 06:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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Marin Photography NYC
Posts: 6,778
New York, New York, US


Yes, just leave off your last as a model, I wouldn't use my last name. As far as Ken's paranoid assertion, you can be found if someone wants to find you. Doesn't matter what name you use......If someone really wants to find you, you really can't do much about it......
Jan 02 14 06:20 pm  Link  Quote 
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Carle Photography
Posts: 9,227
Oakland, California, US


Ken Warren Photography wrote:
I would not recommend any model use their real name on MM or any social networking site where they identify as a model, because it creates an immediate, and very easy to trace, connection between you as a model and your actual life. For instance, knowing your name and state, I can easily locate you on Facebook, which tells me the name of your boyfriend, the high school you attended, etc. An actual creepy individual could stalk you to a fare thee well...

I'm perplexed as to why "models" need to use stage names.
Yet "photographers" are encouraged to use their real names.

Jan 02 14 06:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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Isis22
Posts: 2,329
Muncie, Indiana, US


I shoot nudes so Heck no I don't use my real name. I have a conservative family and an even more conservative ex-husband. I had to fight for custody so I don't want to make it any easier for him.
Jan 02 14 06:29 pm  Link  Quote 
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GPS Studio Services
Posts: 34,702
San Francisco, California, US


Ken Warren Photography wrote:
I would not recommend any model use their real name on MM or any social networking site where they identify as a model, because it creates an immediate, and very easy to trace, connection between you as a model and your actual life. For instance, knowing your name and state, I can easily locate you on Facebook, which tells me the name of your boyfriend, the high school you attended, etc. An actual creepy individual could stalk you to a fare thee well...
Carle Photography wrote:
I'm perplexed as to why "models" need to use stage names.
Yet "photographers" are encouraged to use their real names.

That is a very interesting question, which I do not understand either.  My name is certainly not "GPS."  I operate a "C-Corp" and have established a business identity.  There are companies that make their business out of helping other companies with their identity and presence.  I see nothing wrong with using an appropriate business name.

For models, however, I think there is a good rationale for using a stage name.  Indeed, for security, I would not only use a stage name, but would also consider getting a PO Box, for mail and to use on my ID.  I'd even look at maintaining a separate cell phone strictly for modeling.  Stalkers are rare, but I see no reason not to take reasonable precautions and to insulate myself from people I work with until I know them well.

Jan 02 14 06:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ken Warren Photography
Posts: 643
GLENMOORE, Pennsylvania, US


GPS Studio Services wrote:
... I'd even look at maintaining a separate cell phone strictly for modeling. ...

I have two words for this part: "Google Voice". It's a terribad idea to try to hide illegal activities using Google Voice, but something like this is no problem.

As for using my real name, in the new year I will be putting the legal framework in place to allow me to separate "Ken the person" from "Ken the photographer" even though we both occupy the same skin.

Jan 02 14 06:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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Robert Randall
Posts: 13,842
Chicago, Illinois, US


GPS Studio Services wrote:

Ken Warren Photography wrote:
I would not recommend any model use their real name on MM or any social networking site where they identify as a model, because it creates an immediate, and very easy to trace, connection between you as a model and your actual life. For instance, knowing your name and state, I can easily locate you on Facebook, which tells me the name of your boyfriend, the high school you attended, etc. An actual creepy individual could stalk you to a fare thee well...

That is a very interesting question, which I do not understand either.  My name is certainly not "GPS."  I operate a "C-Corp" and have established a business identity.  There are companies that make their business out of helping other companies with their identity and presence.  I see nothing wrong with using an appropriate business name.

For models, however, I think there is a good rationale for using a stage name.  Indeed, for security, I would not only use a stage name, but would also consider getting a PO Box, for mail and to use on my ID.  I'd even look at maintaining a separate cell phone strictly for modeling.  Stalkers are rare, but I see no reason not to take reasonable precautions and to insulate myself from people I work with until I know them well.

It's been my experience that photographers using their real name tend to work with ad agencies, photographers that use a name such as the one you use, tend to shoot catalog and/or corporate and retail, while the guys that use names such as "The Epitome of Reflections In A Pool Of Self Awareness Images" tend to shoot nudes for spank bank collections. That's not always true... but close, especially that last one.

Jan 02 14 06:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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T Smalls Photography
Posts: 73
San Diego, California, US


I find it interesting that I've seen a lot of models encouraged to use a stage name and to get separate numbers, yet when a model mentions "escort" people freak out.

I'm not a model, but I think it's funny/odd that a model would try to hide her identity as a model.  Especially when I've seen a lot of models use "stage names" on here, then post the same picture from here on their personal facebook page.  If someone wants to find you, google's reverse image search is a powerful tool.

Just my $.01
Jan 02 14 06:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ken Warren Photography
Posts: 643
GLENMOORE, Pennsylvania, US


Robert Randall wrote:
It's been my experience that photographers using their real name tend to work with ad agencies, photographers that use a name such as the one you use, tend to shoot catalog and/or corporate and retail, while the guys that use names such as "The Epitome of Reflections In A Pool Of Self Awareness Images" tend to shoot nudes for spank bank collections. That's not always true... but close, especially that last one.

That made me laugh, Robert. Yes, I shoot nudes (though I don't shoot for anyone's "spank bank", nudes are about all I'm interested here on MM). I shoot more portraits than nudes, and I shoot more cosplay than portraits by probably an order of magnitude.

Jan 02 14 06:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Um, no...
Jan 02 14 06:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Top Gun Digital
Posts: 1,211
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Marin Photography NYC wrote:
Yes, just leave off your last as a model, I wouldn't use my last name. As far as Ken's paranoid assertion, you can be found if someone wants to find you. Doesn't matter what name you use......If someone really wants to find you, you really can't do much about it......

Ken is not paranoid.  If someone really wants to find you they probably can, but there is no reason to make if easy for them.  Anyone that is concerned with personal safety should disclose as little personal information as possible on the Internet.  The creepers and crooks and identity thieves that lurk in the background certainly don't use their real names when they are online.  It's best to follow their example.

Jan 02 14 06:54 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ken Warren Photography
Posts: 643
GLENMOORE, Pennsylvania, US


Marin Photography NYC wrote:
Yes, just leave off your last as a model, I wouldn't use my last name. As far as Ken's paranoid assertion, you can be found if someone wants to find you. Doesn't matter what name you use......If someone really wants to find you, you really can't do much about it......

Well, I don't know about "paranoid", but I do know that statistically, women are much more likely to be stalked than men. And while it's true that a little determination will take a stalker a long way, there's no need to make it easy...

Jan 02 14 06:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


T Smalls Photography wrote:
I find it interesting that I've seen a lot of models encouraged to use a stage name and to get separate numbers, yet when a model mentions "escort" people freak out.

I'm not a model, but I think it's funny/odd that a model would try to hide her identity as a model.  Especially when I've seen a lot of models use "stage names" on here, then post the same picture from here on their personal facebook page.  If someone wants to find you, google's reverse image search is a powerful tool.

Just my $.01

I don't use my real name because it's not very marketable.

Jan 02 14 07:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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Autumn Andrea
Posts: 10
West Jordan, Utah, US


P I X I E wrote:
I don't use my real name because it's not very marketable.

With a name like Ashley. Its nothing special. If not a little valley girl. So stage name would be easier for me to stand out. Like for instance i notice Pixie on the forums a lot because of her unique name.

And If i do wish to do nudes i don't want that traced back to me as easily. and security is always a huge concern.

But would i use my real name if i also work as a makeup artist?

Jan 02 14 07:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Carle Photography
Posts: 9,227
Oakland, California, US


Robert Randall wrote:
It's been my experience that photographers using their real name tend to work with ad agencies, photographers that use a name such as the one you use, tend to shoot catalog and/or corporate and retail, while the guys that use names such as "The Epitome of Reflections In A Pool Of Self Awareness Images" tend to shoot nudes for spank bank collections. That's not always true... but close, especially that last one.

I shoot nudes for OTHER peoples spank bank collections.
smile

Jan 02 14 07:11 pm  Link  Quote 
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Isis22
Posts: 2,329
Muncie, Indiana, US


Ashley Brooke wrote:

With a name like Ashley. Its nothing special. If not a little valley girl. So stage name would be easier for me to stand out. Like for instance i notice Pixie on the forums a lot because of her unique name.

And If i do wish to do nudes i don't want that traced back to me as easily. and security is always a huge concern.

But would i use my real name if i also work as a makeup artist?

You can have more than one name and one account. Some models have one account for their nude work and another for their non-nude work.

Jan 02 14 07:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Ashley Brooke wrote:

With a name like Ashley. Its nothing special. If not a little valley girl. So stage name would be easier for me to stand out. Like for instance i notice Pixie on the forums a lot because of her unique name.

And If i do wish to do nudes i don't want that traced back to me as easily. and security is always a huge concern.

But would i use my real name if i also work as a makeup artist?

My real name is French, and most people who don't speak the language can't pronounce it right. tongue I'd just rather go with something like a nickname that a lot of people know me by already. Pixie's been my nickname for many years.

I'm not hiding my nude work anymore. My parents know about it. So do most of my friends. I'm not worried about that stuff anymore. smile

For your MUA account, I don't see why you couldn't use your real name. It's up to you though. smile

Jan 02 14 07:15 pm  Link  Quote 
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NicoleNudes
Posts: 3,790
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


For my non-nude stuff I used my real name, my nude stuff (this portfolio) I used a fake name.

That way if I mention modeling and people don't know about nicole, my other profile will pop up.
Jan 02 14 07:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Lisette Em
Posts: 1
New York, New York, US


Yeah, I use my real name only because I'm not creative enough to come up with a different one haha.
Jan 02 14 07:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Autumn Andrea
Posts: 10
West Jordan, Utah, US


Yes i was referring to my MUA account. Would there still be the same Security issues?
Jan 02 14 07:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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Holly Summers
Posts: 172
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US


I started modeling about 2 years ago and never thought to use a fake name.  Now that I've gotten some traction and my name is out...  The check is in the mail for me. No turnin back akd changing it now.
So to the OP. Either way you decide. Once you get going with a name your kind of stuck with it.
Jan 02 14 08:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 26,924
Dearborn, Michigan, US


Many models use a stage name.  They sign the release with their real name.
Jan 02 14 08:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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Zoellick Reed
Posts: 123
Portland, Oregon, US


Nope. I have been posing nude for artistic shoots and would rather not be searchable by a few people. I am very proud of my work but my family has made it clear that they do not want to see it. so i keep my advertising of it away from my real name.

I do however introduce myself with my real name in person.
Jan 02 14 08:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Ashley Brooke wrote:
Yes i was referring to my MUA account. Would there still be the same Security issues?

Depends what kind of work you will post there. Eventually people connect the dots and could potentially find out your identity, never forget that. But if you're gonna post conventional makeup shots, you're safe with using your real name I'd think.

Jan 02 14 09:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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Annoula D
Posts: 87
Cliffside Park, New Jersey, US


Jerry Nemeth wrote:
Many models use a stage name.  They sign the release with their real name.

That's exactly what I do. I go by my Greek name professionally, but when it comes to signing releases and checks, I put my legal name and in parenthesis put Annoula. smile

Jan 02 14 10:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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JohnEnger
Posts: 716
Jessheim, Akershus, Norway


Jerry Nemeth wrote:
Many models use a stage name.  They sign the release with their real name.

Any person I shoot with have to sign a release and show proof of identity. What's the point of a signature that's just a bogus name...


John

Jan 02 14 10:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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Haruka Salt
Posts: 129
Los Angeles, California, US


I use my middle name smile Because I'm not comfortable with people knowing my actual first name that I don't know personally / outside of the industry, and because it's still one of my names given at birth.
Jan 02 14 11:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Angie Marie
Posts: 121
Phoenix, Arizona, US


I do not use my full name because I have a professional job and this is more of a hobby.
Jan 02 14 11:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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Laura UnBound
Posts: 27,005
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Ashley Brooke wrote:
Yes i was referring to my MUA account. Would there still be the same Security issues?

If someone finds out the faceless MUA is also the cute and possibly nude model...yes.

Just pick a name that sounds real, but isn't your actual name. Skip the middle name and mothers maiden name also. Just make some shit up and then be smart enough to not connect the dots back to your real name again

Jan 02 14 11:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Laura UnBound
Posts: 27,005
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


JohnEnger wrote:

Any person I shoot with have to sign a release and show proof of identity. What's the point of a signature that's just a bogus name...


John

The point is I trust the people I do business with (or I wouldn't do business with them). I don't have any reason to trust my umpteen thousand followers fans and "friends" on the 10+ social networking sites I'm apart of that are necessary to my job. I've never had a photographer that I've worked with threaten me or try to stalk me. Random people on the Internet? Different story. They don't need easy access to my real identity

Jan 02 14 11:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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Herman Surkis
Posts: 8,291
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada


Yes.
Jan 03 14 12:03 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Charlie-CNP
Posts: 2,588
New York, New York, US


It generally depends on what you are doing as Robert mentioned. If you want to hide what you are doing, create a stage name. However, know that people may possibly still stumble upon your work regardless some day. If you don't care, use your real name, simple as that.

However, one thing that I will honestly say is somewhat annoying is everyone that decides to use their first name and middle name on all of their social networking accounts. Be creative and come up with your own name if you are not going to use your real name. The middle name thing is lame. just my .02 cents.
Jan 03 14 12:08 am  Link  Quote 
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Amber West
Posts: 246
London, England, United Kingdom


Laura UnBound wrote:
The point is I trust the people I do business with (or I wouldn't do business with them). I don't have any reason to trust my umpteen thousand followers fans and "friends" on the 10+ social networking sites I'm apart of that are necessary to my job. I've never had a photographer that I've worked with threaten me or try to stalk me. Random people on the Internet? Different story. They don't need easy access to my real identity

This is the truth.  I have no problem signing a release for with my real details and showing my ID.  My use of a stage name is for the oddballs out there.
Lots of people in entertainment don't use their real, full name, often it's a variation of their birth name or mother's maiden name, etc, to allow for a bit of privacy (or even it sounds better).

My mother has worked in the entertainment field and had a good deal of success back in the 80s and 90s to the point that we did indeed experience stalking, and have people turn up on our doorstep (we lived in a rural area - all the more scary).  A stage name is just a good and sensible precaution to take.  It doesn't mean you are 'ashamed' of what you do, it just means you are aware, and cautious.

Jan 03 14 05:08 am  Link  Quote 
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Eugenya
Posts: 1,022
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Jan 03 14 07:42 am  Link  Quote 
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Ken Marcus Studios
Posts: 8,427
Los Angeles, California, US


Yes . . .
Jan 03 14 07:49 am  Link  Quote 
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GPS Studio Services
Posts: 34,702
San Francisco, California, US


Ken Warren Photography wrote:
I would not recommend any model use their real name on MM or any social networking site where they identify as a model, because it creates an immediate, and very easy to trace, connection between you as a model and your actual life. For instance, knowing your name and state, I can easily locate you on Facebook, which tells me the name of your boyfriend, the high school you attended, etc. An actual creepy individual could stalk you to a fare thee well...
GPS Studio Services wrote:
That is a very interesting question, which I do not understand either.  My name is certainly not "GPS."  I operate a "C-Corp" and have established a business identity.  There are companies that make their business out of helping other companies with their identity and presence.  I see nothing wrong with using an appropriate business name.

For models, however, I think there is a good rationale for using a stage name.  Indeed, for security, I would not only use a stage name, but would also consider getting a PO Box, for mail and to use on my ID.  I'd even look at maintaining a separate cell phone strictly for modeling.  Stalkers are rare, but I see no reason not to take reasonable precautions and to insulate myself from people I work with until I know them well.
Robert Randall wrote:
It's been my experience that photographers using their real name tend to work with ad agencies, photographers that use a name such as the one you use, tend to shoot catalog and/or corporate and retail, while the guys that use names such as "The Epitome of Reflections In A Pool Of Self Awareness Images" tend to shoot nudes for spank bank collections. That's not always true... but close, especially that last one.

Interesting, although I haven't had the same experience.  I used corporate branding to get an identity and to highlight the fact that we were a full service studio, with rental.   It certainly hasn't affected the type of clients I work with.  Perhaps that has something to do with your part of the country.

Jan 03 14 07:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
fluffycakes
Posts: 370
Chicago, Illinois, US


nope, to keep my identity hidden... and so i can feel like a ninja bunny ninja
Jan 03 14 07:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


JohnEnger wrote:

Any person I shoot with have to sign a release and show proof of identity. What's the point of a signature that's just a bogus name...


John

Huh? Okay?

On the model releases I've signed, there were both my alias and my real name. And I signed with my real name.

Jan 03 14 07:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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Babalon Salome
Posts: 3,499
Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany


No. I might want to get a real job at some point in the future.
Jan 03 14 07:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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