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Jettison pics YOU dislike or pics users dislike?
Silly question: Many of us have limited photo slots so we have to jettison some to make room for the new. There are a couple of photos in my portfolios that I'd like to get rid of (they're just not that great in my opinion), but they also have the most lists/comments/likes, etc. Anyone experiencing this 'dilemma?' May 04 14 09:45 am Link You can "hide" photos without deleting them I found out; maybe that helps? Makes it easy to get your pics back -including all the comments- when you change your mind. May 04 14 09:52 am Link more isn't necessarily better. i guess it matters more how you're trying to "market" yourself as a model. a model's portfolio should generally give a potential client an idea of what you can do and your range as a model. personally...i don't look at anything more than 12-15 for print and maybe max out at 20-30 for a model's online. the rest is repetitive. hope that helps. May 04 14 09:55 am Link helmich wrote: I use this method. When I started out and only had 15 slots, I kept deleting things and reuploading them. The hide option is great because you don't lose any comments or lists and you can still upload more. May 04 14 10:41 am Link Girl you should just upgrade to VIP and download a few hundred killer pics... cause you're a superhottie and deleting images of you would be cryin shame... May 04 14 10:50 am Link When half the lists and comments amount to "what a great ass, so hot!", and a quarter of those have been left on every single other photo...they don't mean a whole lot (to me) Your portfolio is about what makes you look best and sells you, not about how many lists you got. Comments are great, but are you paying your bills in comments? May 04 14 11:31 am Link Laura UnBound wrote: ^this. + change is good, keep moving forward. May 04 14 11:33 am Link Ida Saint-Luc wrote: only show your best work. May 04 14 02:17 pm Link Laura UnBound wrote: Oh, don't get me wrong. I couldn't care a rat's ass about the comments and lists, either! It goes back to the question of what's selling me best and whether likes/comments/lists are a good gauge of that or not. Well-liked photos that I don't like might be the ones getting me work. Plus the "best" photos might not always coincide with the "money-maker" photos. I have no idea. L A U B E N H E I M E R wrote: This is very true, but I wonder if the "best liked" photos are the ones bringing in work or if the "real best" photos are... May 05 14 04:39 am Link Ida Saint-Luc wrote: I would definitely ask people what draws them in. Ask a few photographer friends as well, maybe. I know I'm always surprised and I'm constantly having to remind myself that just because I don't just love a photo doesn't mean others will dislike it too. I've shared photos that I wasn't crazy about before and gotten huge positive responses. I'm not saying they were bad photos, I just didn't love them myself like I do some others. May 05 14 12:41 pm Link Ida Saint-Luc wrote: My first part still applies. 50 comments and lists might make you think that they're well liked, and they're the ones that are selling you best, but are half your comments just "woah, nice butt, mmmm mmmm hot, sexy!" And were half of them left on every single other image? Are the people commenting people who are actually hiring you, giving any useful feedback? I can post a blurry selfie of my snatch and I guarantee it will be the most popular image in my portfolio...doesn't mean it's a good photo or that it's helping me book jobs (at least not the kind I want) May 05 14 02:57 pm Link Laura UnBound wrote: Good advice, as usual May 06 14 09:42 am Link I delete perfectly good stuff, because I get so sick of people continuing to comment on ancient work, from like 5 years ago, while totally ignoring new stuff. I have a lot of photo slots, but I delete a lot of stuff all the time, so I never really use many. May 06 14 04:20 pm Link It depends. I try to market my book here off of what makes me $$. I trade out different avis and see which ones get the most responses. I never delete photos, only hide. I hate to think I'll permanently lose the 100+ picture comment ones. May 06 14 04:28 pm Link I've noticed that most of the photos with the most comments/views are the "sexier" ones in my port - this was always the case when I was shooting erotica and is now the case when you can see more skin, regardless of how good/mediocre the pose might be. The photos I think are the strongest as far as my posing/expressions/etc. also happen to be the least sexualized poses and expressions. Eh. I have this dilemma rather constantly myself and haven't got an answer yet. Keep all the sexy and only get hired for glamour/erotic work or keep my strongest images and get 50 percent less comments. I'll never know, so I just leave them as they are May 06 14 08:53 pm Link Comments and lists on this site very much don't amount to quality work, at least not as a rule. There's plenty of awesome work that have comments because of that, but there is a whole lot more that are simply "commentz 4 commentz" or creepers talking about how nice a pair of titties are. May 07 14 08:26 am Link The late Rick Nelson said it best: "you can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself" and that really applies here. I think you should use photos that you like, which mean something to you, and at the same time nicely represent your look and the genres that you want to work in. If other people don't like them, you will slowly fade into obscurity but you still had it your way. I really like the previous suggestion to ask others exactly which pictures drew them to spend time on your page, or to message you about work. May 07 14 08:47 am Link Jenna Jay wrote: this is my experience also. I post what people here will like, and only keep a few art type images up now. It isn't what gets people interested in working with me anymore, so there's no use to keep a port full of art nudes. It would result in decreased traffic and far fewer comments and listings. May 07 14 08:55 am Link If it's of any help to you, this is how I use lists and comments. If I ad an image to one of my lists, it's because I want use the lighting or pose in the image sometime in the future or I want to use them as a base for planning something similar but different. This applies to every image on my lists, apart from 'Models I want to work with' which is mostly aspirational, as the models are in other countries but I would work with them if the opportunity occurs. For the other lists, I don't necessarily mean I want to work with the model in it, it's just that the image is useful when planning shoots. I tend to comment on images that I really like but it's the image and not the model I'm commenting on. Generally, I say what it is about the image I like, eg; good lighting or expression, etc. Again, it doesn't mean that I would hire that particular model, given the chance. If she suited what I was doing, I would but she wouldn't be at an advantage because I've commented on one of her images. Very often the model would have better images than the ones I comment on or list but they are not likely to be used by me when planning a shoot. So, it's no indication of what may be winning you work. As already stated, the best thing you could do it to ask photographers you've worked with or photographer friends. Those who have hired you would be the best to chat with. May 07 14 09:31 am Link Unless those lists and comments are from clients I don't think they are a reason to keep an image around. May 07 14 09:35 am Link I've decided to drop my paid subscription, so I'll be making use of the hide option extensively May 07 14 09:39 am Link Revenge Photography wrote: Can you explain how this is related? May 07 14 03:57 pm Link K I C K H A M wrote: It seems that hidden slots indeed don't count. I have like, 20, hidden photos so far. May 08 14 03:35 am Link Koryn wrote: You mean, people like the glamour more than the art nudes in your experience? May 08 14 03:38 am Link D-Light wrote: Thanks, this was a helpful perspective! I use lists pretty much only for reference photos so it makes sense to me that others would do the same. May 08 14 03:40 am Link From a marketing point of view I think its half what gets you work/shoots and then half of what you want to show. Save the really artistic or personal favorites for a blog or something. I would keep moving around the half or so images that are up to get you booked, so that you have something new and draw people in from your updates. Just regular marketing really. I'm not sure going vip would be worth it just for the image slots. Too easy to put up a blog or a simple website for that, and if people aren't hiring you or booking you on 20 or so images then they won't (I feel) be more likely to do so with 100. That said, if you feel this site has helped and contenues to help then a paid account is a great way to give back. Imo Andrew Thomas Evans www.andrewthomasevans.com May 08 14 11:34 am Link |