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Model

kimmie scarlett

Posts: 2

Herne Bay, England, United Kingdom

Hi guys,

After a little bit of advice i have been approached by a tshirt designer to model his designs on his website he is building. I have mainly done tf shoots this is my second offer of a paid shoot. We're due a meeting to discuss details and they wish to know my rates..... how much should I be charging him if this is for a website for his clothes? Any help would be much appreciated thank you

Kimmie scarlett

Jun 05 14 06:26 am Link

Photographer

Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54196

Buena Park, California, US

kimmie scarlett wrote:
Hi guys,

After a little bit of advice i have been approached by a tshirt designer to model his designs on his website he is building. I have mainly done tf shoots this is my second offer of a paid shoot. We're due a meeting to discuss details and they wish to know my rates..... how much should I be charging him if this is for a website for his clothes? Any help would be much appreciated thank you

Kimmie scarlett

Ask him what his budget is.  Determine if that value is enough for you to want to do it.

Jun 05 14 07:38 am Link

Photographer

J Haggerty

Posts: 1315

Augusta, Georgia, US

Consider the minimum amount per hour you'd like to make. Add a percentage to that base price to account for the commercial use. Rates will vary based on your needs but make sure you are making the minimum your require to sustain a living.

Edit: Asking for a budget is a great way to negotiate prices as well but make sure you have a minimum number set in stone.

Jun 05 14 08:06 am Link

Photographer

Marin Photo NYC

Posts: 7348

New York, New York, US

I have to disagree about asking for the budget. You will come off as a used car sales man.  We all know that when you give them your budget, they go for the max.  Also they are not inclined to tell you that and probably won't respond honestly to. big_smile

Name your price and ask them if they think that's fair and if not, negotiate.
Tell them you are flexible and willing to adjust your rate. Also consider future paid assignments with them, so play nice. Maybe also ask for a tear sheet, credit, maybe some clothes too.  Lots of ways to go about getting a good deal without asking for a budget. It's a common sense response that won't be received well at all. IMO

Ask how many hours they need you for and consider what day it will be and also consider a flat day rate or half day rate.

If you have to take the day off, and you make let's say for argument sake $150 for 8hrs, then consider charging $250 to make it worth it. (Just an example)

Jun 05 14 08:21 am Link

Clothing Designer

GRMACK

Posts: 5436

Bakersfield, California, US

Sometimes just tell them, "Pay me what you think is fair."  Often you might be surprised, and get more than you thought.  A TFP'er will go into a shoot with that free/exchange stuff so you already know that routine.

Maybe they don't want to feel they insulted you by low-balling on the deal.  I don't know, but at least it seems to keep both sides happy.

Had that happen with a tree trimmer.  Gave the guy $200, and he said he would have done it for half that.  Oh well...  Guess I need to call him again on another tree.

Jun 05 14 10:05 am Link

Photographer

Dennis-O

Posts: 201

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Along with the good advice already, you could also do an email exchange of information (to have record) and find out what exactly is needed / expected, (and by when), then give them a quote.

Personally, I don't have an hourly rate, as it depends on the situation and you could do more work than it's worth. I go by project. Ask them for details, finished product, and you can figure out what is fair from there and email back. This may be easier than face-to-face negotiation when you show up for the shoot.

(PS - do a bit of research. If they're established, then realize the value of your image to them. If they're just starting out, well, up to you how nice you want to be without sacrificing.)

G'Luck!

Jun 05 14 08:38 pm Link

Model

Brooklyn Dawn

Posts: 6

Green Bay, Wisconsin, US

Dennis-O wrote:
Along with the good advice already, you could also do an email exchange of information (to have record) and find out what exactly is needed / expected, (and by when), then give them a quote.

Personally, I don't have an hourly rate, as it depends on the situation and you could do more work than it's worth. I go by project. Ask them for details, finished product, and you can figure out what is fair from there and email back. This may be easier than face-to-face negotiation when you show up for the shoot.

(PS - do a bit of research. If they're established, then realize the value of your image to them. If they're just starting out, well, up to you how nice you want to be without sacrificing.)

G'Luck!

Ok, I have been approached by (potentially) my first "major" photographer. I have done my research (hopefully good enough! Pointers!?) I am very experienced as a promotional model, but only 3 years in as an art/print/runway model. (I don't know everything I need to, by any means.) I consider my ability and look, however, to be high-calibur, as well as my creativity and confidence. With the right photographer, I believe I could go quite far. That said, what am I worth to him? What's he worth to me? I need help.

I'd describe him as established (published in some decent places) but not insanely-established. For a 7 day shoot, stopping in Salt Lake City, and then to Vegas (expenses paid for travel and lodging). Images to be used in several photography books he publishes. I make $200/night avg. as a bartender, 6 days a week. I also am a single mother, so to travel, will require a sitter 24/7 for a week (and is this a factor I should even be considering in pricing, as a professional model? Or do I eat that cost?)


A reasonable price, in your opinion?

Jun 05 14 11:42 pm Link