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Model Sarah

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I just finished the finale yesterday...wow. I am so impressed. At first I was only slightly bothered by the animation, but it grew on me and I realized how incredibly well done it is. My favorite part was the end and how Neil deGrasse Tyson described us as intelligent but ignorant at the same time by using the term "dark" matter and energy. We know it is there but we have no idea what it is and how to describe it.

I loved Carl Sagan's voice with the pale blue dot sequence. I am so impressed with the entire series.

Did anyone else watch it?

Jun 12 14 04:05 am Link

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Evan Hiltunen

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I watched every episode and enjoyed the entire series.

Nice overview of Stuff.

Tyson is a very charming, warm, and personable host.

Visuals were great.

I think the series will inspire a lot of people to learn more and explore.

Perhaps the best part was its sense of wonder.

Jun 12 14 04:13 am Link

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Model Sarah

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Evan Hiltunen wrote:
I watched every episode and enjoyed the entire series.

Nice overview of Stuff.

Tyson is a very charming, warm, and personable host.

Visuals were great.

I truly do not think anyone BUT Neil deGrasse Tyson could have done this. He's the one guy you think of who is humble and excited about science and space in particular.

Evan Hiltunen wrote:
I think the series will inspire a lot of people to learn more and explore.

Perhaps the best part was its sense of wonder.

I really hope so because in the end, that is his goal. We're so dumb in this country right now (42% of people still believe in Creationism) so if this series inspires people to think outside of whatever box they've built for themselves then that's a hell of a start.

Jun 12 14 04:17 am Link

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Evan Hiltunen

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Some people think inside the box.

Some people think outside the box.

Some people think "box" is only a probability.

Jun 12 14 04:21 am Link

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Model Sarah

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Evan Hiltunen wrote:
Some people think inside the box.

Some people think outside the box.

Some people think "box" is only a probability.

Indeed. smile

Jun 12 14 04:26 am Link

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Justin

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I'm old enough to have seen the first series, so perhaps my comparisons aren't completely fair or relevant to the current younger audience.

Overall, I liked the new series a lot. There were times when it focused on a singular issue way too much, whereas the first series would have highlighted it for a few minutes and moved on. My other beef is that there was, over the course of several episodes, too much earth-focused issues, and the show didn't live up to its name quite as well.

Neil deGrasse Tyson had the same sense of wonder as Carl Sagan. To me, he didn't match up to the narrative lyricism (and to their credit, they inserted passages from Sagan for that). But his tonality was sure easier to listen to. They picked the right guy for it.

After the original series, we rushed out and bought the book. I don't quite carry that same level of enthusiasm for this show. I'm sure part of it is that there's a lot more informational competition for this theme right now. When the original Cosmos aired, there wasn't such a thing as Through the Wormhole and other shows around.

So while my enthusiasm isn't exactly unbridled, it was a series well worth watching, and indeed we watched every episode. Favorite parts: The reminiscence of deGrasse Tyson, as a young man, meeting with Sagan, with the entry in Sagan's calendar. The exposition of people who had a staggering impact on our acquisition of knowledge that we (or at least I) hadn't heard of before, such as Michael Faraday or the women in the basement at Harvard, to name but two examples. And the soaring finale of the last episode, including Sagan's "pale blue dot" musings, as a fitting cap to the show.

Jun 12 14 04:58 am Link

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SayCheeZ!

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Justin wrote:
I'm old enough to have seen the first series, so perhaps my comparisons aren't completely fair or relevant to the current younger audience.

Most people probably think that this was supposed to be a remake of the original Carl Sagan series.  That's what I originally was thinking.  It's obvious that my thinking was off.

At first I didn't think the new series lived up to the iconic brand name, but in retrospect it did.

The original series flowed well, from chapter to chapter.  The new one seemed more like staccato movements that were chained together, but with the amount of information that they were providing, and having to do the task of teaching n audience comprised of people that don't know the difference between gas and liquid to people with pHD's in science, that was the only way it could be presented.

The new show did an excellent job of translating highly technical and normally quite boring facts, figures, and history into something that's easy to understand and interesting.

I'm a fan.

Jun 12 14 06:48 am Link

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Tropic Light

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I enjoyed the series a lot.  Tyson met the issues head-on, and didn't worry about ruffling some feathers.  Cosmos II set a hopeful tone for the future in spite of the acknowledgment of the dire threats to our biosphere.

Jun 12 14 07:13 am Link

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Model Sarah

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SayCheeZ!  wrote:

Most people probably think that this was supposed to be a remake of the original Carl Sagan series.  That's what I originally was thinking.  It's obvious that my thinking was off.

At first I didn't think the new series lived up to the iconic brand name, but in retrospect it did.

The original series flowed well, from chapter to chapter.  The new one seemed more like staccato movements that were chained together, but with the amount of information that they were providing, and having to do the task of teaching n audience comprised of people that don't know the difference between gas and liquid to people with pHD's in science, that was the only way it could be presented.

The new show did an excellent job of translating highly technical and normally quite boring facts, figures, and history into something that's easy to understand and interesting.

I'm a fan.

Absolutely. I think that is incredibly crucial for people in general. Also, as someone else mentioned, he brought up a couple of names I had never heard of before including the Michael Faraday guy. That's really seriously useful information to know.

Jun 12 14 07:22 am Link

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Jerry Nemeth

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I saw the DVD in the store the other day.  I am thinking of getting it.

Jun 12 14 08:55 am Link

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Christopher Hartman

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I like the host.  Easy to listen to.  But I have only watched or two episodes.

Jun 12 14 09:58 am Link

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Christopher Hartman wrote:
I like the host.  Easy to listen to.  But I have only watched or two episodes.

yikes You don't know Neil deGrasse Tyson?! FOR SHAME CHRISTOPHER! tongue

Watch some of his lectures on youtube. He's just so smart, nice, and passionate about science. He has a bit with Stephen Colbert at the Hayden Planetarium in NYC that's hilarious. He's also on the Daily Show sometimes which is just as funny.

Jun 12 14 10:07 am Link

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Monad Studios

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I just watched the first 1.5 episodes, and so far I'm disappointed.  It's well-made, and I like Neil Tyson, but it's not telling me anything I didn't know.  It's not even telling me things I did know but from a new perspective. 

I'll be patient with it and watch more.  Does it get meatier as it goes on?

Aug 29 14 05:15 pm Link

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Monad Studios wrote:
I just watched the first 1.5 episodes, and so far I'm disappointed.  It's well-made, and I like Neil Tyson, but it's not telling me anything I didn't know.  It's not even telling me things I did know but from a new perspective. 

I'll be patient with it and watch more.  Does it get meatier as it goes on?

Yes. This is more geared at people just interested in space exploration and science in general.

As you go on the episodes talk about things that I sort of knew but delve into them very rapidly. Hang with it. smile

Aug 29 14 06:53 pm Link

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Model Sarah wrote:
I just finished the finale yesterday...wow. I am so impressed. At first I was only slightly bothered by the animation, but it grew on me and I realized how incredibly well done it is. My favorite part was the end and how Neil deGrasse Tyson described us as intelligent but ignorant at the same time by using the term "dark" matter and energy. We know it is there but we have no idea what it is and how to describe it.

I loved Carl Sagan's voice with the pale blue dot sequence. I am so impressed with the entire series.

Did anyone else watch it?

It's a beautiful addendum to the original series, which I treasured. borat

We're gonna give it a little time and then enjoy it all again as a binge-watching indulgence, unlike our first viewing which was basically going SQUEEEEE every Monday when Hulu would prop up the newest Sunday episode big_smile

Aug 29 14 07:37 pm Link

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Justin

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Monad Studios wrote:
I'll be patient with it and watch more.  Does it get meatier as it goes on?

Some do, some don't. There is a lot of walking in place at times.

What I really enjoyed is the revelation of characters that were unknown to me that nonetheless had pivotal roles. And there was a lot of information gained between the original one and this one.

It's not stellar (nyuk), but it's pretty worthwhile sticking through the whole thing. Some episodes disappoint, some satisfy. I don't remember any that thrilled. But on the whole, yes, worthwhile.

Aug 30 14 10:25 pm Link

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I watched and enjoyed the series, but it just didn't grab me like the original did. On the plus side, it was real science on prime time television!  This goes a long way towards overcoming all the "ancient aliens", "live mermaids", "ghost hunters" and other supernatural/pseudoscience crap cluttering the Science and Discovery channels.

Sep 01 14 05:01 pm Link

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LightBend

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Tyson is merely a narrator, reading from a teleprompter. What he's reading was written is by Ann Druyan (Carl Sagan's widow), and some by Steven Soter, the only two surviving contributors to the original COSMOS, written mostly by Carl Sagan.

It's hard for the young to imagine how profoundly Carl Sagan's COSMOS changed the world. Hey, he stopped the nuclear weapons proliferation in the 80's and yet almost nobody knows that.

Overall, the 2014 Cosmos recaptured much of the original magic and gravitas. But not all of it. It had modern special effects. So that's nice.

Do yourself a favor. get the original 1980 COSMOS with Carl Sagan. Turn off the phone and doorbell, put the kids and dogs to bed. You're welcome.

Feb 05 19 04:02 pm Link

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Why are you digging up these ancient threads?

Feb 06 19 03:31 pm Link