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Model

lynne g

Posts: 674

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Have you ever had a photog troll you on this site, ask you out, and then end up being a real douche? Local guy yes! Ok, ok, I'm sure everyone has... Well it outta be ok for outting those types of people. Just saying. End of vent. Not anyone in my port. They were all great

Jun 23 14 03:16 pm Link

Photographer

salvatori.

Posts: 4288

Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica

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Jun 23 14 05:38 pm Link

Model

Kyzn

Posts: 28

London, England, United Kingdom

If that was ever the case, I would laugh then do a U-turn back to the train station

Jun 23 14 05:43 pm Link

Photographer

Solas

Posts: 10390

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

How did you find out he was a douche?

He asked you out, you accepted, and found out he was a knob or..

Jun 23 14 05:44 pm Link

Model

Koryn

Posts: 39496

Boston, Massachusetts, US

lynne g wrote:
Have you ever had a photog troll you on this site, ask you out, and then end up being a real douche?

Actually, no.

Jun 23 14 05:45 pm Link

Model

lynne g

Posts: 674

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Koryn wrote:

Actually, no.

then you're lucky:)

Jun 23 14 06:43 pm Link

Photographer

Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

lynne g wrote:
Have you ever had a photog troll you on this site, ask you out, and then end up being a real douche?

I know of some models on this site who have been asked out, dated and later married the photog.
Different strokes I guess ?

Jun 23 14 06:50 pm Link

Photographer

salvatori.

Posts: 4288

Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica

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Jun 23 14 06:52 pm Link

Photographer

Bare Essential Photos

Posts: 3605

Upland, California, US

Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
I know of some models on this site who have been asked out, dated and later married the photog.
Different strokes I guess ?

Or models who ask photographers out, dated, and later married the photographers.

Jun 23 14 06:53 pm Link

Photographer

Jay Farrell

Posts: 13408

Nashville, Tennessee, US

Cool story bro.

Jun 23 14 06:54 pm Link

Photographer

Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Bare Essential Photos wrote:

Or models who ask photographers out, dated, and later married the photographers.

I can only think of one of those
smile

Jun 23 14 06:58 pm Link

Photographer

Cassandra Panek

Posts: 1569

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

lynne g wrote:
Have you ever had a photog troll you on this site, ask you out, and then end up being a real douche?

Sounds like they started out being a real douche, not just ended there.

Jun 23 14 07:01 pm Link

Model

Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

You want to publicly shame people for taking an interest in you?

You're free to think its unprofessional all you want, but the fact is that people with the same things in common often wind up meeting and dating because of those commonalities. Coworkers date, often. People in the same school, same club, same gym, same whatever date.

If you dont want to date someone you meet through modelling, then dont go on dates with people, dont accept date requests, dont respond to people who offer dates. Like any other person who would want to date you in the rest of the real world...

Jun 23 14 08:34 pm Link

Model

lynne g

Posts: 674

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Laura UnBound wrote:
You want to publicly shame people for taking an interest in you?

You're free to think its unprofessional all you want, but the fact is that people with the same things in common often wind up meeting and dating because of those commonalities. Coworkers date, often. People in the same school, same club, same gym, same whatever date.

If you dont want to date someone you meet through modelling, then dont go on dates with people, dont accept date requests, dont respond to people who offer dates. Like any other person who would want to date you in the rest of the real world...

I have no issue with people meeting and getting to know each other and having so much fun that they decide they want to extend the fun outside the studio. I'm just kind of creeped by people who use networking sites primarily as dating sites. Apparently lots of people do. I'm sure it happens just as often on linked-in.

Jun 23 14 08:37 pm Link

Model

MelissaAnn

Posts: 3971

Seattle, Washington, US

Have you ever tried using the "Block" feature, and then moving on?

If someone sends you a message that's truly inappropriate/against site rules, you can CAM them, then block them. If you let the messages get to the point of "trolling" you have nobody but yourself to blame.

"Outing" people is silly, because why would anyone trust you over the person you're supposedly outing?  How would anyone know that you weren't just upset that a photographer didn't want to work with you, or wouldn't give you RAW files, or some other petty reason?  It would be ridiculous to believe something that a random stranger over the internet says.  Anyone with an ounce of sense does their own research.

Jun 23 14 08:43 pm Link

Photographer

Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

MelissaAnn  wrote:

Em Yup!!!!

Jun 23 14 08:46 pm Link

Model

Amber Dawn - Indiana

Posts: 6255

Salem, Indiana, US

So you dated a photographer off this site who trolled you? I don;t get it! lol

Jun 23 14 09:29 pm Link

Photographer

jesse paulk

Posts: 3712

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Amber Dawn  -  Colorado wrote:
So you dated a photographer off this site who trolled you? I don;t get it! lol

http://youtu.be/7wRHBLwpASw

https://manvela.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/successful-troll-is-successful.jpg

it was the suit

Jun 24 14 07:40 am Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:

I can only think of one of those
smile

There are more.

Jun 24 14 07:50 am Link

Photographer

Mortonovich

Posts: 6209

San Diego, California, US

lynne g wrote:
<snip>I'm just kind of creeped by people who use networking sites primarily as dating sites. Apparently lots of people do. I'm sure it happens just as often on linked-in. <snip>

Yeah, I hear Linkedin is pretty much the new Match.com

Jun 24 14 08:03 am Link

Model

Isis22

Posts: 3557

Muncie, Indiana, US

It happens on every site to me. Maybe it happens more because we are older models, I don't know. Maybe it's just how the world is now. Get used to it, the older I get the more I am experiencing it.

Jun 24 14 08:10 am Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

lynne g wrote:
Have you ever had a photog troll you on this site, ask you out, and then end up being a real douche? Local guy yes! Ok, ok, I'm sure everyone has... Well it outta be ok for outting those types of people. Just saying. End of vent. Not anyone in my port. They were all great

Have you ever had a model solicit you on this site, set up a shoot, and then end up looking like a troll, nothing like her photos?  Local girl yes!  Ok, Ok, I'm sure everyone has.  Well it outta be ok for outting those types of people.  Just saying. End of vent.  Not anyone in my port.  They were all great.

Outing (properly spelled) is not allowed on this site for a myriad of reasons.  A primary reason is because there's no verification process to know if you're telling the truth and the whole truth.  Just because you feel like you've been wronged doesn't mean you were.  I imagine that this photographer that you're speaking of has a very different version of your story.

Jun 24 14 08:17 am Link

Model

Rockabella

Posts: 588

Bargara, Queensland, Australia

"Have you ever had a photog troll you on this site, ask you out, and then end up being a real douche?"

Troll, troll how? I've had photographers troll me on the forums.. er.. however I think everyone trolls on here, to be quite honest. lol.

Ask out, on a date? No. Ask out for a shoot and end up being "a real douche"... well yes. As in, actually, terribly rude and unprofessional to the point where I cut the shoot short.

The only people who ask me on dates here are the male models, really.

Jun 24 14 09:21 am Link

Photographer

Rays Fine Art

Posts: 7504

New York, New York, US

Isis22 wrote:
It happens on every site to me. Maybe it happens more because we are older models, I don't know. Maybe it's just how the world is now. Get used to it, the older I get the more I am experiencing it.

Actually, that's not all that surprising considering that photographers tend to be somewhat older.  Mid-life, once the kids are grown up and out of the nest, is a time when divorces tend to spike, creating not only the "older man" but the "cougar".  And popular conceptions to the contrary notwithstanding, for many of us older guys, a somewhat older woman is much to be desired over the 18-25-year olds.  We just can't take the music, the jargon and the sheer physical vibrancy.  Wonderful to look at and say "If I were just a few years younger," but the fact is that we couldn't handle it even if we did get it.  A more mature woman is a lot less frightening and a lot more satisfying.

Of course, once you get to my age you realize that it really is all in your head and the whole thing gets to be risque without being risky.

All IMHO as always, of course.

Jun 24 14 09:44 am Link

Photographer

Light and Lens Studio

Posts: 3450

Sisters, Oregon, US

lynne g wrote:
Have you ever had a photog troll you on this site, ask you out, and then end up being a real douche? Local guy yes! Ok, ok, I'm sure everyone has... Well it outta be ok for outting those types of people. Just saying. End of vent. Not anyone in my port. They were all great

ROTFLMAO!!   

Who is the Troll and Who is the Douche.  LOL.  Is there a program?  Sometimes it's hard to tell the players without a program. 

Ridiculous.  It just gets more and more ridiculous.  Ha Ha Ha ha Ha Ha.

Jun 24 14 09:51 am Link

Photographer

Lovely Day Media

Posts: 5885

Vineland, New Jersey, US

I have found that the CAM feature works pretty well. I have had to work at it once or twice, but it ended up working. If I don't want to deal with that, the block feature always works ... at least for a while. When someone is so desperate that they contact me even after I block them (another account) then it's definitely time to CAM and insist they do something.

Granted, this hasn't happened to me but I have talked with someone who said it happened to them. This was the advice I gave them.

I'll tell you what has happened to me, though. I have contacted a model to ask them to shoot.  We exchanged messages on here for a while before switching to text messages. After at least 20 texts, they asked me for a picture of me so they could "see who they were talking with". I sent them a picture. Now they say they won't shoot with me because I don't look good enough.  This has happened more than once.

Needless to say, those people went on the blocked list. I don't expect to hear from them again.

Jun 24 14 10:24 am Link

Model

J Jessica

Posts: 2431

Coconut Creek, Florida, US

In this hypothetical situation... Did I shoot with him after he trolled/stalked me or before?

Jun 24 14 10:28 am Link

Photographer

Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Lovely Day Media wrote:
After at least 20 texts, they asked me for a picture of me so they could "see who they were talking with". I sent them a picture. Now they say they won't shoot with me because I don't look good enough.  This has happened more than once.

Why in the world would you cooperate with such a ludicrous request ?
Why more than once ?

Jun 24 14 11:28 am Link

Photographer

L o n d o n F o g

Posts: 7497

London, England, United Kingdom

lynne g wrote:
Have you ever had a photog troll you on this site, ask you out, and then end up being a real douche? Local guy yes! Ok, ok, I'm sure everyone has... Well it outta be ok for outting those types of people. Just saying. End of vent. Not anyone in my port. They were all great

Great story, is there more?

Jun 24 14 11:36 am Link

Photographer

Risen Phoenix Photo

Posts: 3779

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

lynne g wrote:

I have no issue with people meeting and getting to know each other and having so much fun that they decide they want to extend the fun outside the studio. I'm just kind of creeped by people who use networking sites primarily as dating sites. Apparently lots of people do. I'm sure it happens just as often on linked-in.

It seems this thread was created to bash photographers once again. You have had no issues yourself yet "you are sure it happens"

I thought with all the incendiary things being said a month or so ago this thread would be closed.

I'm not sure why the OP is bringing this up unless it is a troll thread in and of itself

Jun 24 14 11:44 am Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Light and Lens Studio wrote:

ROTFLMAO!!   

Who is the Troll and Who is the Douche.  LOL.  Is there a program?  Sometimes it's hard to tell the players without a program. 

Ridiculous.  It just gets more and more ridiculous.  Ha Ha Ha ha Ha Ha.

A study on trolls.

http://www.dailytech.com/Study+Internet … e36091.htm

Jun 24 14 12:04 pm Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Jun 24 14 12:44 pm Link

Model

nnninja

Posts: 51

Dallas, Texas, US

Bare Essential Photos wrote:

Or models who ask photographers out, dated, and later married the photographers.

I was asked out by a photographer, dated, moved in with and married and had kids with him too.

smile Not everyone is bad and douchey.
Some people just seem to attract douches tongue

Jun 24 14 01:00 pm Link

Model

lynne g

Posts: 674

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:

It seems this thread was created to bash photographers once again. You have had no issues yourself yet "you are sure it happens"

I thought with all the incendiary things being said a month or so ago this thread would be closed.

I'm not sure why the OP is bringing this up unless it is a troll thread in and of itself

really??? I AM a photographer, doh! And I stated the multiple photogs in my port have all been cool to work with. I just think people shouldn't be messaging you on a networking board unless they want to chat art or set up a shoot. To use this as a primary source of scoring dates is not cool IMO. If it is secondary to your work, I'm ok w tht.

Jun 24 14 01:59 pm Link

Photographer

Ken Warren Photography

Posts: 933

GLENMOORE, Pennsylvania, US

lynne g wrote:
really??? I AM a photographer, doh! And I stated the multiple photogs in my port have all been cool to work with. I just think people shouldn't be messaging you on a networking board unless they want to chat art or set up a shoot. To use this as a primary source of scoring dates is not cool IMO. If it is secondary to your work, I'm ok w tht.

I sort of agree with this, but every social venue is considered an opportunity to meet potential mates by a fairly large percentage of the population. Otherwise you'd never see, for example, a guy hitting on a woman in a grocery store. Whether it's appropriate or not, it will happen.

Jun 24 14 02:20 pm Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

lynne g wrote:

really??? I AM a photographer, doh! And I stated the multiple photogs in my port have all been cool to work with. I just think people shouldn't be messaging you on a networking board unless they want to chat art or set up a shoot. To use this as a primary source of scoring dates is not cool IMO. If it is secondary to your work, I'm ok w tht.

There are several models and photographers on MM who have gotten married.   smile

Jun 24 14 04:46 pm Link

Photographer

Vampman Studios

Posts: 364

Chicago, Illinois, US

Bare Essential Photos wrote:
Or models who ask photographers out, dated, and later married the photographers.

Why would MODELS ask PHOTOGRAPHERS out since 99% of photogs don't have self portraits up?

Jun 24 14 04:59 pm Link

Model

Gelsen Aripia

Posts: 1407

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I realize this photographer's behavior has irritated you, and there is always a tendency to want to vent when such things happen.  However, I do think that you could have worded your OP more clearly.  You seem to have just rattled it off very quickly, without really thinking through the wording of it.  A more thorough explanation of what occurred could have helped you to get your point across more clearly, and thus not offend.

Jun 24 14 04:59 pm Link

Photographer

WIP

Posts: 15973

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

Are there levels of GWC; from totaly disgusting to slightly naughty.

Jun 24 14 05:08 pm Link

Photographer

SoCal EroticPhoto

Posts: 337

Los Angeles, California, US

lynne g wrote:
Have you ever had a photog troll you on this site, ask you out, and then end up being a real douche? Local guy yes! Ok, ok, I'm sure everyone has... Well it outta be ok for outting those types of people. Just saying. End of vent. Not anyone in my port. They were all great

I hate when this happens.I have so many Models asking me out on here or making comments about my looks.I just tell them to keep it professional and that I am not a piece of meat for their enjoyment!

Jun 24 14 05:27 pm Link