Forums > Photography Talk > Apple stops development of Aperture

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What Fun Productions

Posts: 20868

Phoenix, Arizona, US

“With the introduction of the new Photos app and iCloud Photo Library, enabling you to safely store all of your photos in iCloud and access them from anywhere, there will be no new development of Aperture,” said Apple in a statement provided to The Loop. “When Photos for OS X ships next year, users will be able to migrate their existing Aperture libraries to Photos for OS.”

http://www.loopinsight.com/2014/06/27/a … -aperture/

Jun 27 14 11:18 am Link

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Brian Scanlon

Posts: 838

Encino, California, US

What Fun Productions wrote:
“When Photos for OS X ships next year, users will be able to migrate their existing Aperture libraries to Photos for OS.”

Which will probably be nice for grandma to save the photos of the grandkids.

Jun 27 14 11:30 am Link

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Leggy Mountbatten

Posts: 12562

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Apple has a really bad habit of abandoning their products. I really need to keep that in mind when making purchasing decisions.

Jun 27 14 11:55 am Link

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Eleven 11 Photography

Posts: 409

Auburn, Alabama, US

My entire workflow is Aperture based so its a little sucky for me. But luckily I also have LightRoom as part of the Adobe CC suite so I guess I'll start planning my transition right now. as well learning my way around LightRoom.

Thanks Apple.

Jun 27 14 12:08 pm Link

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gopherlove

Posts: 84

Chicago, Illinois, US

never used aperature, so i dont care ... no offense to poster ..

Jun 27 14 12:21 pm Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Looks like they moved a bunch of the functionality over to Photos, but yeah, it's a surrender.

Jun 27 14 12:23 pm Link

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AJ_In_Atlanta

Posts: 13053

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Hey Capture One Pro is still on sale

Jun 27 14 12:32 pm Link

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moving pictures

Posts: 679

Paris, Île-de-France, France

I started on Aperture.  Saw Apple was killing the program through neglect about 2 years ago.  Then seeing how Apple gutted the pro features from Final Cut, I knew it was only time before Apple screwed Aperture.    So I switched.

Hence the news is no surprise.

Jun 27 14 12:33 pm Link

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moving pictures

Posts: 679

Paris, Île-de-France, France

AJScalzitti wrote:
Hey Capture One Pro is still on sale

Probably not for long, and future sales may be scarce.  Phase One has one less competitor, hence less of a need to have sales.

Jun 27 14 12:34 pm Link

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SPV Photo

Posts: 808

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

gopherlove wrote:
never used aperature, so i dont care ... no offense to poster ..

Thanks for sharing.

Jun 27 14 12:56 pm Link

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Fred Greissing

Posts: 6427

Los Angeles, California, US

Robb Mann wrote:
Looks like they moved a bunch of the functionality over to Photos, but yeah, it's a surrender.

It's not a surrender, Apple is just in other far more profitable areas.

Phones, Tablets etc etc.

Apple is also dropping out of PRO workstations. The New very snazzy looking Mac Pro
(we have one) is not as good as a Cheese grater MAC PRO updated with the fastest available CPUs for most uses.

The portability of the new MAC PRO however is handy.

Jun 28 14 11:43 am Link

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Fred Greissing

Posts: 6427

Los Angeles, California, US

moving pictures wrote:
Probably not for long, and future sales may be scarce.  Phase One has one less competitor, hence less of a need to have sales.

Capture One has always had sales. I doubt that will change.

As for one less competitor I would not say so. Apple is dropping Aperture because of the competition.

There are many other options out there.

Nikon is releasing it's new free RAW converter. Canon has there's.
NX-D will be available in two weeks

Capture One is free to anyone that really needs it (Phase One digital back users and most Leaf Back users)

Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom including lightroom mobil and Lightroom online is only $ 9.99 a month.

Tough for Capture One to sell at $ 300 ish

Jun 28 14 11:50 am Link

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Tony-S

Posts: 1460

Fort Collins, Colorado, US

Fred Greissing wrote:
The New very snazzy looking Mac Pro
(we have one) is not as good as a Cheese grater MAC PRO updated with the fastest available CPUs for most uses.

With the same number of cores, the new Mac Pro is quite a bit faster at genome assemblies. However, we continue to use the older machine because it can take more ram.

Jun 28 14 12:34 pm Link

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Wye

Posts: 10811

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

It's no big surprise considering the update history of the product but it definitely sucks.  I use (basically) nothing but Aperture for my photo work.  I hate Photoshop with the rage of a million burning suns and really wanted to like Lightroom but found it deficient in many important areas for my workflow.  A cursory look at LR5 makes me think that LR is basically sticking with the workflow it has had for a few years now and will likely never work the way I want it to.

Maybe I'll find the free time to write a proper replacement for Aperture on my own.

Jun 28 14 03:19 pm Link

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FullMetalPhotographer

Posts: 2797

Fresno, California, US

From what I read Apple is not really abandoning Aperture, but replacing it. They are also doing this with iPhoto. They are replacing them with 'Photos for OS X'.

Aperture libraries will migrate to 'Photos for OS X'. 'Photos for OS X' ships next year.

Big issue with Aperture it was tied very strongly into their OS system to update Aperture meant the OS had to be updated. Knowing Apple's history they will scrap something if they feel it can be replaced with something that is more compatible with their OS.

I don't know if they are dumbing it down Aperture features or making it more a rival for Photoshop Lightroom. You can store all of your photos in iCloud and access them from anywhere.

There are two basic possibilities they are making a program to go after Adobe or they are making an easier dumb down program for Amateurs. Personally I would like them to go after Adobe.


Here is the full article http://www.macworld.com/article/2375212 … -os-x.html

Jun 28 14 05:07 pm Link

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Tony-S

Posts: 1460

Fort Collins, Colorado, US

fullmetalphotographer wrote:
I don't know if they are dumbing it down Aperture features or making it more a rival for Photoshop Lightroom.

They're going for the Dumb Down Trifecta. First they F-ed up Final Cut, then they F-ed up iWork and now they're going to F-up Aperture. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and they'll eventually get Photos to be as good or better app. What they really need to do is allow us to use our plug-ins (e.g., Nik, Helicon, etc.) within this new app and return the image as a version instead of a TIFF. To me, that's been Aperture's biggest limitation. Based upon their demo at the WWDC, it looks like they've done a very good job at getting noise reduction and lens correction improved. These seem to be system-level routines, which I suspect is for integration with iOS. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Until then, I'll use Aperture until it's no longer supported - or if Photos equals it.

Jun 28 14 07:27 pm Link

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TIMELESS

Posts: 207

Baltimore, Maryland, US

shocking

Jun 28 14 07:40 pm Link

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Brooks Ayola

Posts: 9754

Chatsworth, California, US

gopherlove wrote:
never used aperature, so i dont care ... no offense to poster ..

Yes, Thank you for this.. I don't know how we would have proceeded in this thread without this insight!

Jun 28 14 08:39 pm Link

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Christopher Carter

Posts: 7777

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

Tony-S wrote:

They're going for the Dumb Down Trifecta. First they F-ed up Final Cut, then they F-ed up iWork and now they're going to F-up Aperture. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and they'll eventually get Photos to be as good or better app. What they really need to do is allow us to use our plug-ins (e.g., Nik, Helicon, etc.) within this new app and return the image as a version instead of a TIFF. To me, that's been Aperture's biggest limitation. Based upon their demo at the WWDC, it looks like they've done a very good job at getting noise reduction and lens correction improved. These seem to be system-level routines, which I suspect is for integration with iOS. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Until then, I'll use Aperture until it's no longer supported - or if Photos equals it.

Aren't they getting rid of Aperture? Hard to F it up if they aren't making it anymore big_smile

Jun 28 14 09:04 pm Link

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Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

1k-words-photograpy wrote:
My entire workflow is Aperture based so its a little sucky for me. But luckily I also have LightRoom as part of the Adobe CC suite so I guess I'll start planning my transition right now. as well learning my way around LightRoom.

Thanks Apple.

Yes.  Just like all programs that get updated or replaced, I heard that Aperture will cease to function on the day Photos for OS ships.  You're screwed.  You better switch now.

Jun 28 14 10:27 pm Link

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R.EYE.R

Posts: 3436

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

Exactly the reason I never let any software manage my photos. First they bind you to their format and then have you by the balls.

In any case, Aperture was a half arsed attempt anyway. Good riddance.

Jun 30 14 07:25 am Link

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Gallery 59 Photography

Posts: 969

Los Angeles, California, US

I love Aperture. In my opinion, it's a very well done program that accomplishes everything I've ever needed. But I saw the writing on the wall when they stopped updating last year and started pushing the iPhoto app. I guess the new photo app will fall somewhere between Aperture and iPhoto.

I really don't like Photoshop, and I've tried Lightroom twice now and hated it, but it looks like I'd better start learning to use LR. Ugh...

Jun 30 14 11:15 am Link

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ontherocks

Posts: 23575

Salem, Oregon, US

what about google? they don't have such a great track record either.

for our part we'll keep using aperture until the bitter end because i really don't care for lightroom that much (i think it was originally done by macromedia). and then when the end comes maybe just use photoshop/bridge.

i'll be pleasantly surprised if the new Photos app has even half the features of aperture. but i doubt it will have the Vault feature (to name one example).

Leggy Mountbatten wrote:
Apple has a really bad habit of abandoning their products. I really need to keep that in mind when making purchasing decisions.

Jun 30 14 02:09 pm Link

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passiontolive

Posts: 236

Alexandria, Virginia, US

Being a die-hard Mac user since 1989 it's consistently resembling an abusive relationship as Apple has continued to roll-out professional and enterprise hardware and software swearing they are really committed this time only to leave users high and dry with little to no warning and often no migration path.

I just don't trust Apple to remain committed to anything that doesn't serve the masses from an iPhone or iPad.

I've used Aperture since its release to manage a few hundred thousand photos and then PS for editing. I absolutely hate Adobe's new subscription model so not really excited about having to look at Lightroom. I've been doing everything possible to stick with an aging CS6 suite and avoid CC.

So with Aperture gone and if you don't want to get sucked into the Adobe CC subscription model, are there any other good digital asset management solutions and alternate editors out there?

- ben
passiontolive

Jun 30 14 05:24 pm Link

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Marin Photo NYC

Posts: 7348

New York, New York, US

passiontolive wrote:
Being a die-hard Mac user since 1989 it's consistently resembling an abusive relationship as Apple has continued to roll-out professional and enterprise hardware and software swearing they are really committed this time only to leave users high and dry with little to no warning and often no migration path.

I just don't trust Apple to remain committed to anything that doesn't serve the masses from an iPhone or iPad.

I've used Aperture since its release to manage a few hundred thousand photos and then PS for editing. I absolutely hate Adobe's new subscription model so not really excited about having to look at Lightroom. I've been doing everything possible to stick with an aging CS6 suite and avoid CC.

So with Aperture gone and if you don't want to get sucked into the Adobe CC subscription model, are there any other good digital asset management solutions and alternate editors out there?

- ben
passiontolive

Gimp

Jun 30 14 05:31 pm Link

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passiontolive

Posts: 236

Alexandria, Virginia, US

Funny footnote to my earlier post. I decided to regretfully bite the bullet on CC because I also needed InDesign, Dreamweaver and other apps updated. More then 3 hours trying to install (1 1/2 of that with tech support) and even tech support couldn't get a single CC app to install on my Mac, let alone launch. What a bloody waste of time.

- ben
passiontolive

Jun 30 14 07:23 pm Link

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Tony-S

Posts: 1460

Fort Collins, Colorado, US

Marin Photography NYC wrote:
Gimp

The GIMP is no Aperture. Not even close.

Jun 30 14 07:51 pm Link

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beta

Posts: 2097

Nashville, Tennessee, US

Tony-S wrote:

They're going for the Dumb Down Trifecta. First they F-ed up Final Cut, then they F-ed up iWork and now they're going to F-up Aperture. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and they'll eventually get Photos to be as good or better app. What they really need to do is allow us to use our plug-ins (e.g., Nik, Helicon, etc.) within this new app and return the image as a version instead of a TIFF. To me, that's been Aperture's biggest limitation. Based upon their demo at the WWDC, it looks like they've done a very good job at getting noise reduction and lens correction improved. These seem to be system-level routines, which I suspect is for integration with iOS. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Until then, I'll use Aperture until it's no longer supported - or if Photos equals it.

How did they F up Final Cut? Seriously, are you now complaining about iWork?

My guess is nothing will suffice....

Jun 30 14 09:21 pm Link

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Fred Greissing

Posts: 6427

Los Angeles, California, US

Jeffrey Tranberry says:
We’re working on a way for iPhoto and Aperture customers to more easily migrate to Lightroom. As of right now, your best bet is to save any metadata to your files, then import the files directly from disk. (Note: Aperture develop settings aren’t compatible. If you want to preserve the look of your image edits, export rendered versions of your files from Aperture to import to Lightroom)

It seems that Adobe is working on an migration tool for Aperture users.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/06/ … nouncement

Jun 30 14 10:53 pm Link

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Tony-S

Posts: 1460

Fort Collins, Colorado, US

beta wrote:
How did they F up Final Cut?

You must not follow Apple much. Otherwise, you'd know how FCPX was lame compared to the previous version. It took Apple more than 6 months to put those features back in.

Seriously, are you now complaining about iWork?

iWork 09 went from a professional package to a grade school package. It's still nowhere close to 09 - which is why it sits on my Macs unused.

My guess is nothing will suffice....

Apple's too wrapped up in iOS and have forgotten about OS X. They have become the company they mocked in their 1984 Superbowl ad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axSnW-ygU5g

Jun 30 14 10:59 pm Link

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Doug Stringham

Posts: 38

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

Are any of us really surprised? I mean, when was the last major update to the app? I moved off Aperture a year ago and am now a happy Lightroom/DXO user.

Jun 30 14 11:22 pm Link

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Eleven 11 Photography

Posts: 409

Auburn, Alabama, US

Good Egg Productions wrote:
Yes.  Just like all programs that get updated or replaced, I heard that Aperture will cease to function on the day Photos for OS ships.  You're screwed.  You better switch now.

Allegedly Aperture will continue to work. SO I've got a little while yet.

Jul 01 14 05:47 am Link

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Virtual Studio

Posts: 6725

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Tony-S wrote:

The GIMP is no Aperture. Not even close.

Couple it with Darktable (http://www.darktable.org/) and Lightzone (http://www.lightzoneproject.org/) and you have something which is 1. Free 2. at least as capable as Aperture.

Jul 01 14 07:12 am Link

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Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

passiontolive wrote:
I absolutely hate Adobe's new subscription model so not really excited about having to look at Lightroom.

LR is still being sold as stand alone boxed product
No SUBSCRIPTION
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Nt … yes&sts=ps

Jul 01 14 11:36 am Link

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Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Tony-S wrote:
They have become the company they mocked in their 1984 Superbowl ad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axSnW-ygU5g

+1000

Jul 01 14 11:40 am Link

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Fred Greissing

Posts: 6427

Los Angeles, California, US

moving pictures wrote:

Probably not for long, and future sales may be scarce.  Phase One has one less competitor, hence less of a need to have sales.

That "sale" ended, but Phase One has another "sale" now.

Code: switch50

Pretty much the price of Capture One is half price most of the time...

Jul 01 14 04:27 pm Link

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Tony-S

Posts: 1460

Fort Collins, Colorado, US

Jul 01 14 06:56 pm Link

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Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Tony-S wrote:
Maybe not so bad, after all.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/06/ap … -aperture/

????
Not following you here

Jul 01 14 07:21 pm Link

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Tony-S

Posts: 1460

Fort Collins, Colorado, US

The new Photos app will be more like Aperture and less like iPhoto. It may not be for everyone, but it will support plug-ins so I'm happy I'll still be able to use the Nik suite.

Here's a screenshot:

https://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2014/07/newphotos.jpg

Jul 01 14 08:03 pm Link

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Wye

Posts: 10811

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Any aperture replacement for me would need to support the same kind of adjustment stacking and brushing. So far I've seen no program that can match it.

Jul 02 14 05:02 am Link