Tulack wrote:
Yellow doesn't go with green. It's a killer of your eyes.



And your forgetting that RGB color wheel not real color wheel. RGB complimentary colors cancel each other only in RGB world. In real life colors are different.



If you have triad, you should remove other colors, which you didn't. Green, red and blue would be your palette.

PS. Overlay you put on model face, you didn't mask it completely.

mmmmmm thanks, I did not know these things

Retouch07 wrote:
umm, i have a less technical comment. Since it has a dreamy feel maybe lighten the body a bit too and remove some magenta (just try that one first and try to match the face to the body) on the body a couple of points to match the face perhaps. I like the work you kept the shape and didn't over retouch, nice job.

Well for the skin I've use the gradient map with the 2 brown color in the pics (Kuler palette)

Ruben Vasquez wrote:
Since you're lacking anything cyan, it looks more like you came up with an analogous color scheme rather than the triad color scheme you customized in the kuler pallet. The image's color scheme looks pretty fitting considering the content of the image.

thanks

Tulack wrote:
Yellow doesn't go with green. It's a killer of your eyes.



And your forgetting that RGB color wheel not real color wheel. RGB complimentary colors cancel each other only in RGB world. In real life colors are different.



....

This is total nonsense.

walterfantauzzi wrote:
my initial image is totally different. I wanted to keep the color of the lips. On the basis of this color I found the triad.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/180 … SC6826.jpg

Wow, there is some artistic approach. It is your call, but I am not a fan of bringing something that wasn't there. It's time consuming.

Originally you had only 3 colors on image with little bit parasitic cyan.



Right now you have four colors



Where green and yellow doesn't work with each other, because they have luminosity contrast. One of them would look dirty.

AKMac wrote:
This is total nonsense.

Agreed.

Tulack wrote:
Yellow doesn't go with green. It's a killer of your eyes.

I find that bit of advice to be incredibly odd.

Tulack wrote:
And your forgetting that RGB color wheel not real color wheel. RGB complimentary colors cancel each other only in RGB world. In real life colors are different.

It is actually a real color wheel and it's the color model used by nearly every screen manufactured in the last several decades, is the model used in bayer color-filter array capturing devices and most importantly, it's the model used by Photoshop to generate its colors. The reason for this is because it is based off of emitted light rather than the color wheel used by traditional painters which is based of off reflected light; two fundamentally different properties and characteristics. The paints and pigments of the RYB color model have additional requirements that go beyond simple color requirements such as: absorption and adhesion requirements, drying times, fade resistance, and so on. This puts additional chemical impurities in the inks, dyes, and pigments which makes the color response totally different when mixing two or more colors together. So this model wouldn't work for digital artists using Photoshop since the behaviors of the two models are so different.

Tulack wrote:
You don't need to repeat my words.

It's helpful to quote someone directly so people know specifically who my comments are directed to.

Tulack wrote:
Are you sure, you know rules of speech? I did not say anything about quoting. Your own words I quot in previous post, are repetition of my words. I said RGB colors work in RGB.

No actually you claimed RGB is not a real color wheel:

Tulack wrote:
And your forgetting that RGB color wheel not real color wheel. RGB complimentary colors cancel each other only in RGB world. In real life colors are different.

Remember?

What you originally wrote doesn't quite match-up with what you just wrote.

Tulack wrote:
You said RGB colors work in RGB REALLY  REALLY GOOD. I told you there is no need for REALLY REALLY, because beside that you just repeating my words.

Do you know the rules of speech?

Ruben Vasquez wrote:
No actually you claimed RGB is not a real color wheel:

It's not. It's digital for RGB color space. No way in real life you can mix blue and yellow paint and get mid gray. RGB color space exist only in digital world. Only machines understand it. Problem is: we mixing colors for human brain not for machines.

Tulack wrote:
It's not. It's digital for RGB color space.

It is real as it's based on light (which coincidentally, is a real thing), and how people perceive that light (another real thing). This was discovered by shining multiple colored lights onto one another and has been studied in depth since at least 1931. It's most common applications are computer screens and capture devices as these are devices that emit light or capture light. Simply because you can't squish and squeeze light between your finger tips doesn't negate the fact that light and the color model that's based off of it are real things.

Tulack wrote:
No way in real life you can mix blue and yellow paint and get mid gray.

You're right. You'd get green. So what? Different applications require different color models.

Tulack wrote:
RGB color space exist only in digital world. Only machines understand it.

Actually it also exists for lighting purposes which can be used for photography, videography (whether digital or analog), public shows such as concerts, scientific studies, and so on. Pretty much anything that involves light, it's a perfectly valid model.

Tulack wrote:
Problem is: we mixing colors for human brain not for machines.

It's not a problem for people that understand color theory. And if you understand one model, it's not hard to understand the other...

Tulack wrote:
It is a problem, because we are not answering to general auditory.

This is a visual medium we're working with; not sound.

Tulack wrote:
OP clearly stated than he does not understand it.
Here for example. https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=927527

Most every new concept is difficult to understand at first but time and practice garners understanding. The books I linked him to both cover the RGB color space quite well and are some of the most directly applicable books because they directly pertain to color manipulation in Photoshop. The links you provided are good for color schemes and general artistic principles which are every bit as applicable in one model as it is in the other. But trying to mix colors in Photoshop with the RYB color model in mind wont give you the results you're looking for as that's the wrong application.

Tulack wrote:
walterfantauzzi  is a visual medium?

Visual - of or relating to the sense of sight.
Auditory - of or relating to the sense of hearing.

Well I don't hear anything but I do see a whole lot of imagery.

http://www.walterfantauzzi.com/files/wordpress/

Tulack wrote:
I have doubts that you are adequate.

That's nice.

Tulack wrote:
I know. And I said we are not doing this. We are not broadcasting our answer to the whole world.

Are you on drugs?

Tulack wrote:
Are you Mexican?

Half actually.

Is English your first language?

Tulack wrote:
I knew that. English is my fifth language. We can talk Spanish.

That's pretty impressive actually. Sadly, I only speak English. Regardless, I think we've derailed this thread long enough. Any more and I suspect a moderator will lock this thread.

Tulack wrote:
And your forgetting that RGB color wheel not real color wheel. RGB complimentary colors cancel each other only in RGB world. In real life colors are different.

You recommended James Gurney's book the other day. Have you read what he says on this topic?

Tulack wrote:
Where green and yellow doesn't work with each other, because they have luminosity contrast. One of them would look dirty.

Hue and luminosity are orthogonal.

Tulack wrote:

Wow, there is some artistic approach. It is your call, but I am not a fan of bringing something that wasn't there. It's time consuming.

Originally you had only 3 colors on image with little bit parasitic cyan.



Right now you have four colors



Where green and yellow doesn't work with each other, because they have luminosity contrast. One of them would look dirty.

mmmm I've understand

Ruben Vasquez wrote:

Tulack wrote:
walterfantauzzi  is a visual medium?

Visual - of or relating to the sense of sight.
Auditory - of or relating to the sense of hearing.

Well I don't hear anything but I do see a whole lot of imagery.

http://www.walterfantauzzi.com/files/wordpress/


That's nice.

Thanks Ruben, I'm photographer not retoucher. Bur I love the retouch too and I wish learn more

3068875 wrote:
And "primary" red pigment can be made by mixing magenta and yellow.

http://www.johnmuirlaws.com/art-and-dra … lor-theory

Same with "primary" blue, which is a mixture of cyan and magenta.

Just like in your color printer.

(Y)

walterfantauzzi wrote:

mmmm I've understand

Don't because that's wrong.

Pretty much everything he is saying is wrong.

Yellow and green go together for example in an analog harmony.

And rgb needs to be contemplated of course just not for creating palettes only for understanding how adjustments with light work.

Natalia_Taffarel wrote:

Don't because that's wrong.

Pretty much everything he is saying is wrong.

Yellow and green go together for example in an analog harmony.

And rgb needs to be contemplated of course just not for creating palettes only for understanding how adjustments with light work.

OK BOSS ahhahahaha I know that yellow and green go together...Color Theory docet

Tulack wrote:
Yellow doesn't go with green. It's a killer of your eyes.

What the fuck is this nonsense?

Ruben Vasquez wrote:

AKMac wrote:
This is total nonsense.

Agreed.

Tulack wrote:
Yellow doesn't go with green. It's a killer of your eyes.

I find that bit of advice to be incredibly odd.




It is actually a real color wheel and it's the color model used by nearly every screen manufactured in the last several decades, is the model used in bayer color-filter array capturing devices and most importantly, it's the model used by Photoshop to generate its colors. The reason for this is because it is based off of emitted light rather than the color wheel used by traditional painters which is based of off reflected light; two fundamentally different properties and characteristics. The paints and pigments of the RYB color model have additional requirements that go beyond simple color requirements such as: absorption and adhesion requirements, drying times, fade resistance, and so on. This puts additional chemical impurities in the inks, dyes, and pigments which makes the color response totally different when mixing two or more colors together. So this model wouldn't work for digital artists using Photoshop since the behaviors of the two models are so different.

Well.... Actually

The rgb color wheel is good for corrections (light)

But when we create color palettes the brain uses the ink one



By Goethe's

The example you posted is a triad (don't forget the blue of the logo also present on the water)

The example the OP posted is also NOT only green and yellow.

Green and yellow will actually "look bad" on their own

X

Natalia_Taffarel wrote:
The rgb color wheel is good for corrections (light)

But when we create color palettes the brain uses the ink one

I'm not sure about this.

I guess you may think in those terms having having come from a printing background, and I certainly do, having come from a painting background. But I wonder whether those who have been using Photoshop and other on screen devices for most, if not all of their lives, tend to think in RGB rather than CMY. Perhaps a survey has been conducted.