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Whose bought a new Canon 7D lately?
This is really just a curiosity to me. No reflection on the camera. I noticed on Amazon that a new 7D is more or less the same price as the new 70d (looking at both with a lens). The 7D is a much more solid camera. I am just wondering if people are opting for the 7D over the 70d for the more robust construction. Alternatively, are people selecting the 70d instead of the 7D because it is newer technology? Jul 20 14 11:13 am Link I've been doing demos since last fall at some of the big box stores in this area. By a wqide margin most of the customers have been opting for the 70D mainly because of the fantastic new technology. The build (ie: weatherproofing) is also more like the 7D instead of the 60D which it's basically replacing. Results may be far different at a independently owned local camera shop whose main customers are photographers and advance amateurs. Jul 20 14 11:30 am Link I was looking at the 7D, and a friend told me of the 70D. I grabbed my 70-200mmL IS, and headed to the mall where I did some hand holding of the two. The better "FEEL", for me is the 70D. The better features, for me, is 70D; articulating screen, higher iso, video autofocus, a touch screen... One thing i noticed, and it was very minor, but i did notice, was when i pressed the shutter button, the 70d snapped off a shot a little faster than the 7d... Now it was in no way a huge margin faster. But the it just urked me that with exact same lens, aperture and shutter speed one was slower.  And finally the price, the 70d was about 200 bucks cheaper. Had the wife, not intercepted me..... I'd have purchased the 70D. But instead I got a lecture and from that lecture I came away with this; (NO MORE SHOPPING WITH THE WIFE!)Jul 20 14 12:10 pm Link Locutus wrote: Interesting thoughts. I liked the bolded one the best. Jul 20 14 12:37 pm Link A quick FYI: The next generation of the 7D (its been called the 7DMkII in the articles I've seen) have it rumored to be coming out before the end of the year. Jul 20 14 12:55 pm Link GPS Studio Services wrote: I purchased the 7D 4 years ago and I am still happy with it. Jul 20 14 01:03 pm Link Steinberg Photo wrote: The 7D replacement has been rumored to be coming out by the end of the year for the last three years. That has been right along with the Nikon replacement for the D300s. Jul 20 14 03:24 pm Link Jul 20 14 03:38 pm Link It looks like they upgraded that post. The last time I saw it, it had a CR1 on it. They must have verified the source finally. We'll know soon. Jul 20 14 04:32 pm Link Love my 7D but I would add a 70D if I needed the video, and less weight for a phantom Jul 20 14 04:51 pm Link The 7D is a stunning camera as long as you keep it below ISO400, above that, and well that's another matter. Still, I personally I love the 7D. Jul 20 14 05:21 pm Link Bought a used 7D last year,wondered why I didn't get one earlier when I had the chance Jul 20 14 05:54 pm Link Chris Rifkin wrote: Same I have one now and I'm happy Jul 20 14 06:24 pm Link What I am finding interesting in this thread though is that nobody has come forward and said that they have bought a new one since the 70d's have come out. I was curious if it was still selling. It is good that it sounds like Canon may finally update it. Jul 20 14 06:39 pm Link My neighbor bought a 70d and he likes it but he is more into the video aspect of it and knows nothing about photography at all. He keeps asking me about lenses for video..LOL I have no clue on what works for video. Jul 20 14 07:04 pm Link I bought a new 7D eight months ago. I admit I was enticed by the articulating screen of the 70D, but in the end I could not get past the plastic construction of the 70D, even with some of the better specs it had. I do not shoot video, so that was not a factor for me. The 7D was a huge upgrade from my 30D. If the 7D II ever becomes a reality I will not wait as long to upgrade. Jul 21 14 03:19 am Link Jerry Nemeth wrote: I wanted to purchase a 7D 4 years ago but needed a camera quickly and couldn't swing the 7D (more than double the price). I'm "happy" with what I got but I'm sure the 7D is a far superior camera to the Rebel I got. Jul 21 14 05:00 am Link Sold my 7D a few months ago, it was a great camera but I have a 5D3 and a 1Dx. The 7D would just sit in the bag so I sold it for a great price to the daughter of a friend that was getting into photography. She's making excellent use of it. These days, 90% of my work is with the 1Dx, so I'm probably going to sell the 5D3 as well, once I see what is coming to replace the 1Dx or what Canon will do in the higher megapixel market (if anything). Other than built-in wifi with an app to tether to a tablet or PC, GPS, and a bump to 24 Mpixels, there isn't much else to improve in this camera. The 1Dx is a workhorse, especially after the last firmware update where you can (finally) do exposure compensation in manual (with and without auto ISO engaged). The images that camera produces just have something extra to them. Clients and myself always seem to be able to identify which shots were taken with the 1Dx and which were taken with another camera. Jul 21 14 05:21 am Link  Just saw this on Facebook, a model (Julieanna Givens) and client (Marina Pascale) holding one of the editorial magazines from the ongoing Miami Swimwear Show. In the foreground is a two page tear of another of my images (different model). Both of these magazine images were shot with the Canon EOS 7D. I recently purchased an EOS 7D four years ago(?!). It would be good for Canon to release a new upper tier EOS still camera so we can get a better idea where the company is headed with the EOS line. All of the current(?) high end EOS cameras are quite long in the tooth (many years since a new release, even the EOS 5D III was essentially a retread with a better autofocus system). Obviously Canon is happy being the leader in DSLR video, but something else is going on that I have trouble understanding. To have simply conceded the high ground in resolution to Nikon without so much as a whimper for years is not very Canon. Either the tsunami had a much bigger effect on Canon's production lines than they are willing to concede (possible) or there is a new sensor technology being prepared (also possible given Canon's patent filings). Either way, the new EOS 7D II may give us a hint where Canon in going (and it's way overdue). John PS: I shoot production work with my EOS 7D all the time and clients don't seem to have an issue with it. I also shoot with my EOS 5D Mark II when appropriate, fine camera, excellent results. But it's been a strange five years for Canon. Jul 21 14 08:50 am Link This post reminds me of the Nikon d7100 vs d300s discussion. Like the 7d the 300s has been around for a few years yet Nikon still considers it a pro spec body, however, the 7100 most likely trumps it in several respects. Jul 21 14 12:31 pm Link I've got a friend that just bought a 7d but he's a special case. He's an ornithologist and got a Fulbright to go to Africa. He's leaving next week, didn't have time to wait for the mkii and will put the FPS and weather-sealing to use. Like I said, special case. Jul 21 14 06:55 pm Link Lachance Photography wrote: Yep. The D7100 and 70D are superior cameras to the D300s and 7D in every way in today's market but I am learning that photographers are special people that spend money extra money on cameras for things like feels better in the hand, has more weight, feels to plastic, and has better weather sealing. Jul 21 14 08:35 pm Link The Grand Artist wrote: You don't have a clue why we like the 7D! Jul 22 14 04:20 am Link The D300, and 7D in particular are capable of satisfying any demanding situation for the publishing world as John has very aptly pointed out above. The 7D was producing fantastic super detailed images 5 years ago, has this in some way changed? Anyone on here who believes that they absolutely must have a D800 or 5DIII to either improve their photographic abilities are just kidding themselves! Jul 22 14 06:04 am Link Jerry Nemeth wrote: Not over a 70D at the same price London Fog wrote: But we are talking about which one would you purchase today new. A 70D is a superior camera to the 7D today and cost less. There are no logical reasons to purchase a 7D over a 70D at the same price. Jul 22 14 06:51 am Link Lachance Photography wrote: The Grand Artist wrote: That, of course, is the problem. The 70d is superior to the 7D in many ways, but not every way just as the fact that the D7100 is superior to the D300s in many ways, but not every way. We have had the debate in this forum many times before. Jul 22 14 07:32 am Link The Grand Artist wrote: Jerry Nemeth wrote: Not over a 70D at the same price There is every logic if the 7D has... Jul 22 14 07:41 am Link London Fog wrote: It also works fine at 96° in the desert. Jul 22 14 08:01 am Link  I held on to my Canon 1n for so long the rewind lever broke off and I needed duct tape to hold the batteries in the autowinder. Canon finally convinced me to try an EOS 1n (EOS cameras had been available for ten years by then). Old dog, had to learn some new tricks. (That EOS 1n had some amazing new tricks.) Okay, just a brief layout of how to figure out how Canon feels about their DSLR offerings. First, the top professional DSLR camera from Canon always has a "1" designation. This has been true for over thirty years with the release of the first Canon 1 (followed by the Canon 1n then the Canon 1n new, and so on and so on.) The digital line of Canon professional cameras started with the EOS 1D then the EOS 1Ds, and today we have the EOS 1Dx. It doesn't matter what you think, this is what Canon thinks. There were any number of people who felt the Canon 3 was a better camera (it did have more features) than the Canon 1n, but that's not what Canon thought. The next step down are the single digit Canon's, like today the EOS 5D Mark whatever, the EOS 6D (a bit of an anomaly, but it is full frame at least), and the EOS 7D, Canon's top end cropped sensor camera. All these single digit Canons are full featured, but may not be quite as rugged as the current "1" series, which for photojournalists and sports photographers is important. The next stop down is the slightly less robust two digit EOS cameras like the EOS 70D, with it's articulating screen and new video auto focus system. Clearly Canon intends to stay on the top of the video DSLR business, and is testing new features on it's consumer cameras which may eventually wind up on their single digit DSLR's. (Or not, eye control focus never made the jump from the Canon 3 to the Canon 1 series!) Then you have the three and four digit Canon DSLR's (or the Rebel series in the US) which are inexpensive entry level cameras which allow new consumers to purchase an inexpensive interchangeable lens camera with full access to Canon's extensive line of lenses and speedlites. Now, everyone has a right to think that a particular camera best suits their needs regardless of number designation, this story is only to explain how Canon feels about their current lineup of DSLR's. Nikon used to follow something like this, although Nikon never held onto the "1" designation with the maniacal devotion Canon has. Today, your guess is as good as mine, you really do need a Weegie board to figure out what Nikon has in mind with it's current offerings. A "3000" may be better than a "70" or a "700", who knows. But don't listen to me, I have been Canon before Canon was cool. I did pick up a Nikon 8008 (Into the Wayback Machine!) that my assistant owned. I pointed at two people and the camera immediately focused on the wall between them. I was so traumatized I didn't pick up an auto focus camera for another ten years! True story. John -- -- John Fisher 900 West Avenue, Suite 633 Miami Beach, Florida 330139 (305) 534-9322 http://www.johnfisher.com Jul 22 14 10:21 am Link The difference between the 7D and 70D is really simple... 7D - pro build workhorse, will carry on shooting even after being flamegrilled, see here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCT-YMgjm9k 70D - consumer grade camera with built in flippable toy like video screen thing for those times when you absolutely must video Johnny on his first horse ride! Jul 22 14 11:01 am Link GPS Studio Services wrote: It certainly will. Prices on the original 7D should fall to record lows and that means optimal time to buy if one is going to get one. I don't have to have the latest and greatest to create quality images. I like to think I've done rather well with a Rebel. Certainly a 7D is 10x better in many performance aspects. My pictures may not improve 10x but something will have to improve even if it's just my efficiency (time between shots will drop in cases where that's necessary). Jul 22 14 11:48 am Link Lovely Day Media wrote: the 7D is a good camera, I have 2 7ds. After I got a 1DX I learned to hate them. Yeah. It's a huge price difference. I didn't know what a huge difference in performance either. I can do things I couldn't before. It has capabilities that one has to push the limits and exceed. I'm selling my 7D 's. Hope the new owner will use them with great ideas in mind. Jul 22 14 11:54 pm Link the lonely photographer wrote: I've got $5. Will that get it done? LOL Jul 23 14 01:19 am Link Also, I was just on the Adorama website. It seems that for the same price the camera was when first introduced ($1900 or so), they'll now give you a printer, paper, a 16 GB class 10 memory card AND $900 in rebates along with free shipping. If I were in a position to buy right now ... http://www.adorama.com/ICA7DD.html Jul 23 14 02:50 am Link I'm not one who always needs the latest in technology as well..I was hoarding 50D bodies as I found them on consignment at my local store as with how I shoot my cameras take a ot of salt water hits....up until I found a 7D for a stupid low price.... I might do the same thing once the 7D ll comes out,though truth be told...having the ability to tether wi fi or remote to my tablet to see in realtime what my images are looking like would be a big plus as well.... Jul 23 14 09:36 am Link Just a word to the wise, the best prices on older models (like the EOS 7D) tend to be just before the new models are released (like now!). The reason is that the companies are selling off inventory before the release of the new camera, and when the new camera is released the sticker shock tends to make the older model seem more valuable (and the price actually goes up on sites like E-Bay). Also, those deals through companies like B&H tend to dry up, as they are trying to drive you to the new model. Not always true, B&H (and other sites) had deals on the EOS 5D Mark II that were ridiculous for six months or more after the release of the 5D Mark III. That was a weird case, buit hey, it happened. The trick is figuring out if (in this case Canon) is really releasing a new model. They have left us brides waiting at the alter before over the last few years. But it does seem like a great time to buy an EOS 7D, shot with it for over four years now, and it is a great camera. John -- John Fisher 900 West Avenue, Suite 633 Miami Beach, Florida 330139 (305) 534-9322 http://www.johnfisher.com Jul 23 14 09:59 am Link John Fisher wrote: +1 Jul 23 14 10:01 am Link GPS Studio Services wrote: What you're experiencing in your studio is the same thing that I've experienced when I do the demo days. Jul 23 14 10:10 am Link London Fog wrote: The dumb "toy" was the reason I chose the 60D over the 7D several years ago. Jerry Nemeth wrote: (re:7D) Jul 23 14 10:14 am Link I don't understand the love people have for their cameras or any piece of technology. It is just a tool that will one day be obsolete replaced by something that functions better in every way. I am starting to wonder how many people here still primarily use a VCR, CRT monitor, 486 computer using Windows 98 with a dial up modem, AOL as their ISP, and completely lost it when TV signals went to digital from analog. Jul 23 14 02:13 pm Link |
