Forums > General Industry > How much should an amateur model charge per hour?

Model

Sarah Ma

Posts: 1

Worcester, Massachusetts, US

Just not sure what the going rate is. I don't want to low ball myself and I don't want to sound ridiculously over priced either. Help!

Jul 31 14 03:12 pm Link

Photographer

MIDNIGHT EXPRESS

Posts: 579

Pomona, California, US

You have the right to charge what ever you want...

You have a pretty good look....
The problem is amateur, if you don't have much experience and do not know how to take direction... Photographer are hesitant to hire with someone with little experience..
The good news is, you look to be photogenic..

Give me a reason why you should get hired.
What do you have to offer when it is given for free here by many models here on MM.
What makes you unique? What can you bring to the table?
These questions are valid and reasons why many models get hired and why some don't.....
Also, are photographers asking for your rates?
Are you demand?

As far as charging, you can charge what ever you want.
I know that does not answer your question..
I guess charge what ever you feel comfortable with...

I would start of modestly and then build up..
Try a 100.00.........Not per hour just a flat 100.00

Jul 31 14 03:24 pm Link

Photographer

Bare Essential Photos

Posts: 3605

Upland, California, US

Sarah Ma wrote:
Just not sure what the going rate is. I don't want to low ball myself and I don't want to sound ridiculously over priced either. Help!

I would suggest $20 per hr.

*If you were doing nudes, $40 per hr would work.

Jul 31 14 03:37 pm Link

Model

Sandra Vixen

Posts: 1561

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Just to add something as a casting director, one of the things serious productions are weary about are immature employees.

If you ever do or want to seriously work in the entertainment world, you need to be absolutely mature, serious, patient, detailed, and of course, well educated and trained whenever you are hired (paid) to work for anyone. No flaking, being late, being distracted, chatty on set, etc.

Because one bad employee can railroad an entire day's worth of work and cause everyone else to not get things done or paid.

With that said, even if you lack of experience but are willing to be devoted to any project, then anywhere from $100 to $300 for a half day's worth of work. I do not suggest charging by the hour to anyone when it comes to performing in front of a camera, simply because I never been to a shoot where we ever ended on time.

Jul 31 14 03:54 pm Link

Photographer

AJ_In_Atlanta

Posts: 13053

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Well can ask for whatever you like, but as with anything it's really the clients who decide what you are worth - to them.

How much do you need to earn to be worth your time?  I would suggest to see what is offered first, if it's too low you can give your minimums or move on.  It's really that simple and will constantly change with the market.

Jul 31 14 04:01 pm Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

It depends on your look and experience.

Jul 31 14 04:11 pm Link

Model

Elizabeta Rosandic

Posts: 953

Santa Fe, New Mexico, US

What exactly are you defining as "amateur"?

Do you mean you're just starting out or haven't shot with anyone yet?

Do you mean hobbyist?

Do you mean non-agency?

And are you making it your goal, at some point, to be a full-time professional?

These things make a difference.

Jul 31 14 04:12 pm Link

Photographer

Connor Photography

Posts: 8539

Newark, Delaware, US

Sarah Ma wrote:
Just not sure what the going rate is. I don't want to low ball myself and I don't want to sound ridiculously over priced either. Help!

It depends on the look of the photographer.  Old fat and ugly, at least $300 an hour, if he is cute, dark and tall, you pay him to shoot with you.

Jul 31 14 04:18 pm Link

Photographer

eybdoog

Posts: 2647

New York, New York, US

OP: You charge the rate that your market will bear. For example, the going rate is going to depend on the style of modeling that you are doing, the location that you are doing it in, and what the market will bear for it. If you are in MA for example, you will often make less than say for example if you are here in NY. However, there is also a greater competition here in NY, so you have to hustle harder to earn a living at your craft.

For starters though, you should decide on what type of modeling that you are interested in. You have to be realistic with your stats as well. For example, no offense, but most likely you will not be doing runway/fashion.

Once you know what you want to do, start to research the area that you want to do it in, and find out what others are getting paid. Then you can set your rates competitively. It is business 101 to the letter.

One other thing to note, most likely you will not make money off of MM unless you are doing nudes. There are way too many people here that are not serious about anything, and way too many male photographers that simply pay to shoot nudes. You do however have a solid look to consider commercial modeling I would say though, or perhaps promo. Again though, it depends on what you want to do, and what the market will withstand.

good luck!

Jul 31 14 09:15 pm Link

Photographer

Stephen Fletcher

Posts: 7501

Norman, Oklahoma, US

If she works for pay then she is not an "amateur".

Aug 01 14 08:51 am Link

Photographer

Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

Random Thoughts:

Nothing determines rates more than the local supply & demand of similar talent.
  Modeling and photography are competitive businesses; you will be forced to charge a rate that is similar to similar models in your area.

Not all models are created equal -- some are a better match for a project than others.  The models who are the best match can charge more than the models who are not good matches.

Not all budgets are created equal.  I might think you are worth $10,000 an hour, but if I have only $20 in my pocket, it really doesn't matter much I think you are worth (and it doesn't matter how much you think you are worth, either).  The budget limits everything.

A modeling business is 10% modeling and 90% business (similarly for a photography business).  One key business skill that we all should have is Negotiation.  Fortunately, there are several good self-help books on the topic. 

It is likely that each opportunity will require its own negotiation.  Projects differ by a lot of factors, like how well the model fits the requirements and what the budget is.


Good luck.

Aug 01 14 09:13 am Link

Photographer

ddtphoto

Posts: 2590

Chicago, Illinois, US

Depends. If there isn't a client and the photographer is talented it might be in your best interest to shoot for free if it's an exciting shoot.

I mean, if your "clients" are photographers with no clients, then it's going to be tough to get paid consistently if you're limiting yourself to this site and you're not doing nudes.

Aug 01 14 10:01 am Link

Photographer

Marin Photo NYC

Posts: 7348

New York, New York, US

Oh geeze.....search the forums..this has been discussed at least 2k times in the last two years... big_smile

Aug 01 14 10:10 am Link

Model

Elisa 1

Posts: 3344

Monmouth, Wales, United Kingdom

If you're amateur how and why charge?

If you want to be professional, it may be worth shooting with a few really good photographers for images to supplement your portfolio.

If you don't think a photographer will add to your book, it's not worth shooting with them except for pay of course.

But you get paid as a model genrally for what you can do, and the references and credits you have behind you. So this isn't just about your look - which is very strong nonetheless.

So learn the craft. Study books old and new fashion magazines and works of art of the human form. Look at the importance of pose and gesture. Study mime and ballet. Look at emoting in an actor's expressions in movies.

These,will all aid you as well as experience you gain working with photographers and indeed other models.


Start charging when you feel confident enough to. In my case this was swiftly because I had a good training with some of the best life models and artists in London over a few months before entering other modelling. So I was ready to start charging after a few months and git the work no problem.

You have to consider whether you want to do it just as a paying hobby or more professionally. If the latter be aware that the best model employers are not photographers. Except when they have third parties. And then you will be up against professional competition for castings . So you have to strike a balance between making it worthy your while, and being much more reasonable than agency models.

So ask yourself questions like if you are happy to do promo modelling , or life modelling for artists, or whether you want to shoot exclusively photography? If the latter, then be aware what other models in your locale charge. Your rate is governed by the market..and if it's only photographers, they tend not to like to pay much. That's fine if you have demand from other model employers so models just work with those who will pay the market rate.

Aug 01 14 10:26 am Link

Photographer

NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 35726

Los Angeles, California, US

$20 an hour sounds wicked cheep, even in Woostah.

Aug 01 14 10:38 am Link

Makeup Artist

MUA Janine

Posts: 242

San Francisco, California, US

I think $20 an hour is probably a good starting point. However I wouldn't be totally firm on that. If someone can only afford $50 for a 3 hour gig and your rate is $20 chances are you'll probably still consider it. If you want to make a notation about rates in your port I'd say something to the effect of 'my rates are relatively affordable with some flexibility.'

Be willing to negotiate.

Aug 07 14 11:10 am Link

Photographer

Paul Best

Posts: 1302

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I would say negotiable ...  I think 20 bucks is too low though .. I would start a 35/hr and 50/hr for nudes ...

most new girls here , I see asking 100/hr and I think your reasonable wage would stand out ..

Aug 07 14 08:35 pm Link

Photographer

Mikey McMichaels

Posts: 3356

New York, New York, US

Sarah Ma wrote:
Just not sure what the going rate is. I don't want to low ball myself and I don't want to sound ridiculously over priced either. Help! [/quote

As much as you can get.

Aug 07 14 08:40 pm Link

Photographer

Capitol City Boudoir

Posts: 774

Sacramento, California, US

Here in Sacramento I pay $100 for a half-day (4-5 hrs.) clothed and $200 half-day art nudes.  I have no shortage of talent.

Aug 07 14 08:49 pm Link

Photographer

Bare Essential Photos

Posts: 3605

Upland, California, US

Capitol City Boudoir wrote:
Here in Sacramento I pay $100 for a half-day (4-5 hrs.) clothed and $200 half-day art nudes.  I have no shortage of talent.

+1,000!

Yes, that sounds about right.

$20 per hr non-nude and $40 per hr for nude.

Aug 07 14 08:53 pm Link

Photographer

SEI Photos

Posts: 314

Kalispell, Montana, US

In my market, TF for clothed; maybe $30-$40 for up to 2 hours nude (total pay, not per hour).

Aug 07 14 08:55 pm Link

Photographer

Llobet Photography

Posts: 4915

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

Connor Photography wrote:

It depends on the look of the photographer.  Old fat and ugly, at least $300 an hour, if he is cute, dark and tall, you pay him to shoot with you.

That's why I get paid all the time. *cough* not *cough*

Seriously, start off with what you're being told in this forum post.  As demand rises so should your prices.  Good luck.

Aug 07 14 08:57 pm Link