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T Brown

Posts: 2460

Traverse City, Michigan, US

I am an Optimist to a fault, sometimes too much so I think.

In my mind there is always someone who is undergoing something far worse than I am or  that what ever the situation is as long as I can maintain and make it through then things are cool.

But things lately have got me re-evaluating my viewpoint and wondering if a certain amount of pessimism is beneficial?

I guess my basic tenet is hope for the best prepare for the worst and things will sort themselves out.

Aug 10 14 01:31 pm Link

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Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

I'm realistic and nihilist.

Aug 10 14 01:35 pm Link

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T Brown

Posts: 2460

Traverse City, Michigan, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:
I'm realistic and nihilist.

ok, cool, I would like to think I am too but isn't there a certain direction to which your mind goes when confronted with a situation.

Some people are automatically negative about it seems like almost everything, which in my mind isn't beneficial in getting through it.

Like divorce, sure its a difficult time and there are a lot of feelings, confusion, and other issues involved but keeping in mind that there is an end and a light at the end of the tunnel seems so much more appealing than being full of despair and gloom, not that there shouldn't be any.

Kind of a situation I can relate to right now.

We are getting separated, not my choice but I can't fight it and realize that I have to look towards the future and decide where and how I want to get there.

I can either handle it with grace and understanding or I can be a complete ass.

I choose the first.

Aug 10 14 01:44 pm Link

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Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

T Brown wrote:

ok, cool, I would like to think I am too but isn't there a certain direction to which your mind goes when confronted with a situation.

Some people are automatically negative about it seems like almost everything, which in my mind isn't beneficial in getting through it.

Like divorce, sure its a difficult time and there are a lot of feelings, confusion, and other issues involved but keeping in mind that there is an end and a light at the end of the tunnel seems so much more appealing than being full of despair and gloom, not that there shouldn't be any.

Kind of a situation I can relate to right now.

We are getting separated, not my choice but I can't fight it and realize that I have to look towards the future and decide where and how I want to get there.

I can either handle it with grace and understanding or I can be a complete ass.

I choose the first.

Is it pessimistic of me to say it's realistic to think the worst will happen?

Aug 10 14 01:46 pm Link

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T Brown

Posts: 2460

Traverse City, Michigan, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:

Is it pessimistic of me to say it's realistic to think the worst will happen?

Lol,umm no....yes? maybe....????

Aug 10 14 01:49 pm Link

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Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

T Brown wrote:

Lol,umm no....yes? maybe....????

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Aug 10 14 01:50 pm Link

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Jay Edwards

Posts: 18616

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

I am optimistic about my life while pessimistic about the world...

Aug 10 14 01:59 pm Link

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Lohkee

Posts: 14028

Maricopa, Arizona, US

Jay  Edwards wrote:
I am optimistic about my life while pessimistic about the world...

+1 (and then some)

Aug 10 14 02:02 pm Link

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CNP Photography

Posts: 2579

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Not sure if that makes me a pessimist or an optimist.

Aug 10 14 03:00 pm Link

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Fotticelli

Posts: 12252

Rockville, Maryland, US

I'm a realist and I know how good I have it by the dumb luck of being born in the right place in the world. And I'm healthy, basically. I've been in bad physical pain maybe a total of half a day in my whole life. And I'm 55. And I get to take pictures of some of the most beautiful picture subjects. I am a realist so I know this will not last and one day I will cease to exist. So I'm trying to make the best of the time while I'm alive.

Aug 10 14 03:26 pm Link

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Fotticelli

Posts: 12252

Rockville, Maryland, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:
I'm realistic and nihilist.

You can't be both at the same time. In my opinion.

Aug 10 14 03:28 pm Link

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T Brown

Posts: 2460

Traverse City, Michigan, US

Fotticelli wrote:
I'm a realist and I know how good I have it by the dumb luck of being born in the right place in the world. And I'm healthy, basically. I've been in bad physical pain maybe a total of half a day in my whole life. And I'm 55. And I get to take pictures of some of the most beautiful picture subjects. I am a realist so I know this will not last and one day I will cease to exist. So I'm trying to make the best of the time while I'm alive.

True, but you can be optimistic about growing old-er and still in good health, able to do most everything you want providing you take measures to do so. ??? or no??

Aug 10 14 03:38 pm Link

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Fotticelli

Posts: 12252

Rockville, Maryland, US

T Brown wrote:

True, but you can be optimistic about growing old-er and still in good health, able to do most everything you want providing you take measures to do so. ??? or no??

The body deteriorates starting at about 40. If you were hot (a man or a woman) the diminishing of attention from the opposite sex (or same sex depending on your orientation) is going to eat away at you. Fortunately that was not a problem for me. Other than being less desirable other things about you body break. Eyesight goes bad, boobs droop, penises shrink, you don't hear things as well as you used to. Even if you have no major health issues you go into body maintenance mode. You body is like a car. It needs check ups. Your docs will tweak your meds to keep your cholesterol, estrogen, glucose levels or whatever within the acceptable range.
There are good things about being older. You don't give a shit about stuff as much. I am one of those people who would not change a thing about my life if I had a chance. I consider myself lucky. Nothing really horrible happened in my life. My father died in my arms from a heart attack when I was sixteen. That screwed me up for a decade or so but that's life. It taught me how fragile and precious life is. I don't want to bore you guys. I guess I can sum it up by saying that you appreciate things more when you get older. Everything is more beautiful. Trees, flowers, animals, mountains, clouds, boobs. But you do feel your body is rusting and falling apart slowly.

Aug 10 14 04:44 pm Link

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Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

Fotticelli wrote:
You can't be both at the same time. In my opinion.

I disagree. They're not even about the same thing. Realistic is about what will happen; nihilism is about what people do.

Aug 10 14 04:46 pm Link

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Fotticelli

Posts: 12252

Rockville, Maryland, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:

I disagree. They're not even about the same thing. Realistic is about what will happen; nihilism is about what people do.

How is "what will happen" different from "what will people do?"

Aug 10 14 05:17 pm Link

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T Brown

Posts: 2460

Traverse City, Michigan, US

Fotticelli wrote:
The body deteriorates starting at about 40. If you were hot (a man or a woman) the diminishing of attention from the opposite sex (or same sex depending on your orientation) is going to eat away at you. Fortunately that was not a problem for me. Other than being less desirable other things about you body break. Eyesight goes bad, boobs droop, penises shrink, you don't hear things as well as you used to. Even if you have no major health issues you go into body maintenance mode. You body is like a car. It needs check ups. Your docs will tweak your meds to keep your cholesterol, estrogen, glucose levels or whatever within the acceptable range.
There are good things about being older. You don't give a shit about stuff as much. I am one of those people who would not change a thing about my life if I had a chance. I consider myself lucky. Nothing really horrible happened in my life. My father died in my arms from a heart attack when I was sixteen. That screwed me up for a decade or so but that's life. It taught me how fragile and precious life is. I don't want to bore you guys. I guess I can sum it up by saying that you appreciate things more when you get older. Everything is more beautiful. Trees, flowers, animals, mountains, clouds, boobs. But you do feel your body is rusting and falling apart slowly.

Oh believe me I understand that 1000%, been dealing with that myself, but being of the mind I am I feel compelled by my optimistic nature that there is something I can do to combat those conditions, high blood pressure -> check taking pills, but lost some weight and exercising more seriously now to lower it naturally, I should be off the pills soon, cholesterol -> was very bad now normal, the sagging and dragging things, lol all I can do is try to maintain and accept those things I cannot change and go after the things I can. Eyes -> yup needed glasses after having perfect vision my whole life, but I have kind of grown accustom to them and like how they fit me. I know that women do not look at me the same way they did when I was younger and thats fine because I am a different person now, I am evolved and more in tune with myself at this age than I ever have been. I know someday, hopefully I will come across that one special person who sees me for who I am and what I have to offer as still very active, intelligent, and alive male.

If that means my appeal to the opposite sex is diminished just because I am not as youthful and "spry" as my younger counterparts then so be it.

But I am optimistic that isn't the case, lol... wink

Aug 10 14 07:48 pm Link

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highStrangeness

Posts: 2485

Carmichael, California, US

I tried nihilism for awhile, but it was kind of pointless.

Aug 10 14 11:52 pm Link

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GK photo

Posts: 31025

Laguna Beach, California, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:
I'm realistic a nihilist.

sounds exhausting.

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Aug 11 14 12:22 am Link

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Jules NYC

Posts: 21617

New York, New York, US

T Brown wrote:

ok, cool, I would like to think I am too but isn't there a certain direction to which your mind goes when confronted with a situation.

Some people are automatically negative about it seems like almost everything, which in my mind isn't beneficial in getting through it.

Like divorce, sure its a difficult time and there are a lot of feelings, confusion, and other issues involved but keeping in mind that there is an end and a light at the end of the tunnel seems so much more appealing than being full of despair and gloom, not that there shouldn't be any.

Kind of a situation I can relate to right now.

We are getting separated, not my choice but I can't fight it and realize that I have to look towards the future and decide where and how I want to get there.

I can either handle it with grace and understanding or I can be a complete ass.

I choose the first.

This is the way I roll.

People who lean towards the negative suffer unnecessarily. People are unpredictable and when it comes to love, there are no guarantees.

I'm one if those people that needs answers/solutions to problems. If I understand the 'why' I can get on with my life easier. I've learned that some people love you as much as they are capable. Not everyone is wired for a lifetime.

It is what it is.

On the positive, why sustain a relationship where its survival was thread together by duty than feeling. When it's done, you have the opportunity to have someone again, excited & willing for the future.

Life is short.
Too short to be unhappy, no matter what happens.

Aug 11 14 12:36 am Link

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VictorGFoto

Posts: 276

Sacramento, California, US

a pessimist will blame the weather
an optimist will hope the weather will get better
a realist will adjust their sails

Aug 11 14 01:07 am Link

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Jules NYC

Posts: 21617

New York, New York, US

VictorG Photography wrote:
a pessimist will blame the weather
an optimist will hope the weather will get better
a realist will adjust their sails

I am the latter two equally.

Aug 11 14 01:08 am Link

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T Brown

Posts: 2460

Traverse City, Michigan, US

VictorG Photography wrote:
a pessimist will blame the weather
an optimist will hope the weather will get better
a realist will adjust their sails

I think thats true in part, but a realist could still adjust their sails and still have a bad attitude about it or a positive attitude.

As an optimist I don't just sit on my  laurels and hope for change, I know the only way to achieve a difference in my life id to actively go out and seek that change, its the positive attitude that drives my actions.

Surely a realist will do the same but with less conviction, purpose, or passion.

Aug 11 14 05:46 am Link

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Warren Leimbach

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Tampa, Florida, US

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Aug 12 14 10:07 pm Link

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Peter House

Posts: 888

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Total optimist. Always on the bright side of things. In fact.....I don't really see negatives. Situations simply happen. They are not good or bad by nature. Its just how we choose to perceive them. Because I'm completely convinced that I am going to end up where I want.....anything that happens is purely part of the journey.

Aug 12 14 11:11 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

I am very optimistic that everything goes up Shits Creek without a paddle!   evilgrin






Actually, I am a diehard optimist!

Without it... I couldn't have survived the shit I had been going through in my life and maintaining a sense of humor and balance.

Aug 12 14 11:16 pm Link