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Frank Lewis Photography

Posts: 14488

Winter Park, Florida, US

I'm reaching the point where I want to handle my film processing and scanning. The Pana-Scan 14.0 MP Slide & Film Scanner has been recommended to me by a local retailer. Does anyone have any experience with this or a similar device? How would you compare this to a flatbed scanner?

Aug 19 14 12:38 pm Link

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Noah Russell

Posts: 609

Seattle, Washington, US

Depends on the flatbed scanner. Is it better than a $100 flatbed, probably.

I have a Epson v700 photo flatbed scanner, it does a fine job with slides, negatives, and prints. You can even get a wet mount adaptor if you are hardcore. It was more than $100 though.

If I were looking for a dedicated slide scanner, I would find a Nikon coolscan or something similar on eBay. Decent slide scanners are pretty expensive.

If you have a slide projector, you can always project the slides and photograph the screen using your still camera.

Cheers,
Noah

Aug 19 14 02:53 pm Link

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DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Yeah, unfortunately us old-farts need to find good solutions for scanning film.

I keep thinking about those Epsons, but the V700 seems too $$, but their others, with such a large leap, do they still hold the quality or not... aurgh...

At least ones that can do medium format (like the Epsons) would be nice... as I still have an old coolscan for 35mm... but I can't get the darn thing to work anymore. (SCSI)

Aug 19 14 03:09 pm Link

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Eyesso

Posts: 1218

Orlando, Florida, US

I use a canon 9000F that was only about $130 new.  But I think some clarity is lost with that set up, it's never absolutely sharp as it should be.  For computer/internet use it's fine, no biggie.  But for comparison.....the 35mm scans at Walgreens come out as crisp as 120mm scans in my flatbed. 

So...you get what you pay for, I suppose.

Aug 19 14 03:19 pm Link

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Canvassy

Posts: 209

Saint Paul, Minnesota, US

Frank Lewis Photography wrote:
I'm reaching the point where I want to handle my film processing and scanning. The Pana-Scan 14.0 MP Slide & Film Scanner has been recommended to me by a local retailer. Does anyone have any experience with this or a similar device? How would you compare this to a flatbed scanner?

Similar to that, the Wolverine 20mp scanner looks like it has better reviews on Amazon.

I've always wondered how well those things work, I'm wanting to start developing and scanning my own negatives.

Aug 19 14 04:40 pm Link

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wynnesome

Posts: 5453

Long Beach, California, US

I've had a couple of different flatbed negative/slide scanners.  They do the job, but I have never been quite satisfied with the quality. Always feel like I'm losing a little. I have made a few decent small prints (7x10 or so) from my scanned negs/slides, and had one published in NUDE magazine several years back - that was actually a 6x7 color slide that needed to be converted to b/w for the publication, so going digital worked well in that situation to do a nice conversion. The print looked very nice on the 8/12x11 magazine full page.

I've always regarded the film scans as more for image review/selection, web view, or small prints for carry-around portfolios, than the final "art" piece that would come from the film images.  For gallery, I've taken my selected negatives to a lab for darkroom printing. Beautiful, but expensive and harder to find places that do it (a lot of them "print" from negatives, but when you ask for details, they explain that they're actually scanning it themselves, not printing in the darkroom).

Aug 19 14 04:52 pm Link

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Rob Photosby

Posts: 4810

Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

DougBPhoto wrote:
I still have an old coolscan for 35mm... but I can't get the darn thing to work anymore. (SCSI)

You can buy SCSI cards to connect older scanners.

Aug 19 14 05:06 pm Link

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DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Rob Photosby wrote:
You can buy SCSI cards to connect older scanners.

That does not mean I can make them work!!  tongue

I even have a mac I used to run the scanner with... same exact OS as when I ran it...  nope.

Apparently, I can kill a lot of brain cells in 10 years.

Aug 19 14 05:13 pm Link

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Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

If you can find used Nikon Coolscan its the way to go
Much better than flatbeds esp for 35mm film

Aug 19 14 05:28 pm Link

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Frank Lewis Photography

Posts: 14488

Winter Park, Florida, US

I have looked at the Wolverine 20mp scanner and the Pana-Scan 14.0 MP and I might lean toward the Wolverine because of the size of the file. As I understand it, each device takes a picture of the negative and the result is a positive image. After watching a video on YouTube about removing noise, I have opened the scan in PS as camera raw and under the Details palette and moved the Luminance slider all the way to 100% to eliminate noise. That works quite well. Then I proceed with my edit workflow. I think this method would result in capturing more detail than using a flatbed scanner. I sure would like to do a test run with one of them before making a purchase...

Aug 19 14 05:48 pm Link

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FullMetalPhotographer

Posts: 2797

Fresno, California, US

Frank Lewis Photography wrote:
I'm reaching the point where I want to handle my film processing and scanning. The Pana-Scan 14.0 MP Slide & Film Scanner has been recommended to me by a local retailer. Does anyone have any experience with this or a similar device? How would you compare this to a flatbed scanner?

For 35mm flat bed scanners are a disappointment. For my stuff I have used KODAK PROFESSIONAL RFS 3570 Plus Film Scanner
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/ … path=13748

SUPER COOLSCAN 9000 ED
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/scanner … n_9000_ed/

Nikon Super CoolScan 5000 ED Film Scanner
http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-9238-Nikon- … B0001DYTOY

These are negative scans of Tri-X 400 ISO

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3144/2567233010_f8411013bd.jpg
train_bw by FullMetalPhotographer, on

Aug 19 14 07:30 pm Link

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Noah Russell

Posts: 609

Seattle, Washington, US

fullmetalphotographer wrote:
...For 35mm flat bed scanners are a disappointment...

I have used flatbed scanners which were a disappointment when scanning 35mm slides and negatives. I am not at all disappointed by the v700. For over $4000 I would expect higher optical resolution from a Coolscan 9000. Nope.

Although it's a tad expensive, the v700 is many times less expensive than a pro level slide scanner. You can also scan model releases and prints with it. :-P

OP might want to check out the Epson V550 scanner which retails for less than $200. Here's a review including scans made by the device.

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2014/01 … _Q1R2eBERA

Cheers!
Noah

Aug 19 14 10:52 pm Link