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Makeup Artist

Nikki Nox

Posts: 4

Summit, New Jersey, US

Hi everyone. I had a pretty uncomfortable experience from someone on here and I was wondering if there was any way to warn others, or to hear from people that have worked with someone before I do kind of as a preventative measure for the future???

Sep 04 14 03:31 pm Link

Filmmaker

Mr_Sable

Posts: 83

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

That might be handy.

Sep 04 14 03:43 pm Link

Photographer

DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 10604

Los Angeles, California, US

Nikki Nox wrote:
Hi everyone. I had a pretty uncomfortable experience from someone on here and I was wondering if there was any way to warn others, or to hear from people that have worked with someone before I do kind of as a preventative measure for the future???

You should read...those Pesky MM Rules...

Sep 04 14 03:47 pm Link

Photographer

Sal W Hanna

Posts: 6686

Huntington Beach, California, US

Simply put; I wish. In reality we can't on this site, but there is always Facebook and other networking circles wink

Sep 04 14 03:47 pm Link

Photographer

Ken Warren Photography

Posts: 933

GLENMOORE, Pennsylvania, US

You are allowed to put a "Do not recommend" on your profile, and PM details if someone should happen to ask. Anything beyond that is outing, which will result in being punished.

Sep 04 14 07:21 pm Link

Photographer

American Glamour

Posts: 38813

Detroit, Michigan, US

Moderator Note!

Ken Warren Photography wrote:
You are allowed to put a "Do not recommend" on your profile, and PM details if someone should happen to ask. Anything beyond that is outing, which will result in being punished.

Right answer.  We don't allow public outing simply because it creates more problems than it solves.  If you feel strongly, you may put "Not Recommended" on your profile page.

Sep 04 14 07:36 pm Link

Photographer

kickfight

Posts: 35054

Portland, Oregon, US

Nikki Nox wrote:
Hi everyone. I had a pretty uncomfortable experience from someone on here and I was wondering if there was any way to warn others, or to hear from people that have worked with someone before I do kind of as a preventative measure for the future???

First and foremost, very sorry to hear that you had an unpleasant experience, Nikki.

As others have stated here, you are allowed to add the offending party (name/MM #) to your Credits section, as follows:

John Q. Public MM# XXXXXXX ***DO NOT RECOMMEND (PM me for details)***

or some variation thereof. Omit any specifics about the incident... the above labeling format will be sufficient to serve as warning to other members while keeping you compliant with the site rules. If others wish to know more about the incident, they will PM you about it.

Sep 04 14 08:26 pm Link

Photographer

Ruben Sanchez

Posts: 3570

San Antonio, Texas, US

Ken Warren Photography wrote:
You are allowed to put a "Do not recommend" on your profile, and PM details if someone should happen to ask. Anything beyond that is outing, which will result in being punished.

Be sure and put a "DO NOT RECOMMEND JOE BLOW, and PM for details" on your profile.  Sometimes we get bad people in this industry that we need to warn others about. 

Also, you can also do that same thing on other media websites.

Sep 04 14 08:41 pm Link

Filmmaker

Mr_Sable

Posts: 83

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

GPS Studio Services wrote:

Right answer.  We don't allow public outing simply because it creates more problems than it solves.  If you feel strongly, you may put "Not Recommended" on your profile page.

Very good to know!  Thanks!

Sep 05 14 01:26 pm Link

Model

Jen B

Posts: 4474

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Nikki Nox wrote:
Hi everyone. I had a pretty uncomfortable experience from someone on here and I was wondering if there was any way to warn others, or to hear from people that have worked with someone before I do kind of as a preventative measure for the future???

I am sorry you had an uncomfortable experience and I hope you are safe and that it is getting into perspective and that any residual "yuck" is diminishing!

Really sorry about that.

I have run into it a few times and it takes some time to wear off. Trust your gut and stand strong, sooner next time and never be afraid to just leave. Even if you do not want to say anything, (that may be safer,) just leave.

Best on here and sorry that happened.
Jen

Sep 05 14 04:41 pm Link

Photographer

- Phil H -

Posts: 26552

Mildenhall, England, United Kingdom

Moderator Note!

Ken Warren Photography wrote:
You are allowed to put a "Do not recommend" on your profile, and PM details if someone should happen to ask. Anything beyond that is outing, which will result in being punished.

GPS Studio Services wrote:
Right answer.  We don't allow public outing simply because it creates more problems than it solves.  If you feel strongly, you may put "Not Recommended" on your profile page.

You can also lodge a report of the matter, with the Site moderators via this link - https://www.modelmayhem.com/contactamod

The Mods can then look into the matter and determine if it merits further action on our part.

Sep 05 14 07:19 pm Link

Photographer

Marin Photo NYC

Posts: 7348

New York, New York, US

Some of you are jumping the gun and saying sorry...suppose this person's idea of an uncomfortable experience is about someone's bad breath?

What happened that made it uncomfortable?

That's what should be discussed...

Sep 05 14 07:24 pm Link

Photographer

- Phil H -

Posts: 26552

Mildenhall, England, United Kingdom

Moderator Note!

Marin Photography NYC wrote:
Some of you are jumping the gun and saying sorry...suppose this person's idea of an uncomfortable experience is about someone's bad breath?

What happened that made it uncomfortable?

That's what should be discussed...

I don't see that that's necessary. Whilst I appreciate some might wish to be privy to any potentially lurid details, the OP's question has been answered.

If she feels it's serious enough a matter to warn others about and needs to be taken or discussed further, she can do so via CAM.

Sep 05 14 07:37 pm Link

Model

Hailey Nichole

Posts: 1

La Habra, California, US

I also was wondering about this.
The 3rd photographer I shot with from MM ended up being an awful experience. I wasn't sure on what to do, or if there was a place to report these actions.

When the Photographer first messaged me, he sent me a link with his "website" and we followed up all discussion via email.
The shoot ended up not being what I had thought it was going to be, and I left.
The following day I went to scope out his website- And it no longer existed. So I went to find his Model Mayhem account, which also no longer existed.

Now I see he has created another account on here, with another name, all the same photos from the past portfolio.

I am hoping no one else has to deal with what I dealt with.

Sep 05 14 07:53 pm Link

Model

Miss Kitty Marie

Posts: 89

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

MB JenB wrote:
I am sorry you had an uncomfortable experience and I hope you are safe and that it is getting into perspective and that any residual "yuck" is diminishing!

Really sorry about that.

I have run into it a few times and it takes some time to wear off. Trust your gut and stand strong, sooner next time and never be afraid to just leave. Even if you do not want to say anything, (that may be safer,) just leave.

Best on here and sorry that happened.
Jen

If something inappropriate happened, I suggest listening to Jen's advice here. She posts a lot of great perspectives on how to respect yourself in this career field.

I also recommend checking references, prior to a shoot ...just message a bunch of the credited models that are linked on the photog's port or profile and ask them how their experience was and whether they would work with that individual again. It isn't a guarantee, but it helps.  With a copy-and-paste message you can knock this out in 10 minutes or less... I have gotten very informative responses that have either helped me save myself wasted time in an awkward or invasive shoot, or responses that have alleviated concerns so that I could fully relax and just look forward to shooting with someone who models rave about.

Always trust your gut though... If you get a creepy feeling, no picture is worth the worst-case scenario.

Sep 05 14 08:10 pm Link

Photographer

Greg Kolack

Posts: 18392

Elmhurst, Illinois, US

I am not saying the OP is not telling the truth here, as I don't know the full story and wasn't there, but always remember there are 2 sides to every story, and it may not be wise to make assumptions you cannot know are true.

Remember "Raped of Mind and Body?"

I personally had someone make up elaborate lies about me and started a thread about me (without naming me.) Everyone came to the accuser's side (some who know me, but didn't know it was me that was being posted about) and called me all kinds of names. One member - who I have regular communication with - even posted I had mental problems. (He quickly retracted when I PMd him.)

The whole situation blowed over and no harm came of it, though the accuser occasionally will refer to me a year and a half later in posts and blame me for things I had nothing to do with.

So again, there is no reason reason to doubt the OP and if something did happen, hopefully something is done about it. But use caution when taking sides before both sides are known.

Just speaking from experience.

Sep 05 14 08:24 pm Link

Photographer

Rik Austin

Posts: 12164

Austin, Texas, US

Moderator Note!
Please keep to the topic.  It has pretty well been answered though.

Sep 06 14 08:40 am Link

Photographer

Rik Austin

Posts: 12164

Austin, Texas, US

Moderator Note!

Hailey Nichole wrote:
I also was wondering about this.
The 3rd photographer I shot with from MM ended up being an awful experience. I wasn't sure on what to do, or if there was a place to report these actions.

When the Photographer first messaged me, he sent me a link with his "website" and we followed up all discussion via email.
The shoot ended up not being what I had thought it was going to be, and I left.
The following day I went to scope out his website- And it no longer existed. So I went to find his Model Mayhem account, which also no longer existed.

Now I see he has created another account on here, with another name, all the same photos from the past portfolio.

I am hoping no one else has to deal with what I dealt with.

Hailey, please contact us about this.  It is possible they were removed from the site for reason and didn't just close their account.  If so they are not allowed back and may have made a fake account.   Thanks.

https://www.modelmayhem.com/contactamod

Sep 06 14 08:42 am Link

Photographer

Lallure Photographic

Posts: 2086

Taylors, South Carolina, US

Sorry you had a bad experience, but it happens on BOTH sides of the aisle.

Realize, that there are models who make totally false accusations, about photogs, as well as photogs, who are less than professional.

Follow the rules, and hope that no one else has a bad experience. If, on the other hand, your experience warrants it, you can take it to proper channels, off the group. If you feel this person is in any way dangerous, it might be helpful to someone else, to do that.

Over the years I have seen only a few truly bad apples, when you consider the number of photogs, who work with models, both professionally, and for recreation. Trouble is.......those do make for sensational headlines in the media........and give the rest of the photographers a bad name.

Sep 09 14 12:56 pm Link