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Photographer

Happy Guy Photos

Posts: 1271

Upland, California, US

NicoleNudes wrote:

Hahaha you can't be serious can you?
Please then, enlighten me, what is exactly is that I shoot since it can't possibly be art nudes since I have big boobs.

Please oh please oh wise one of all the genres.

When I shoot art nudes, I ALWAYS try to get models with big boobs for the shoot. The two seem to go hand in hand.

Sep 13 14 09:46 am Link

Photographer

Lallure Photographic

Posts: 2086

Taylors, South Carolina, US

No, it doesn't make sense.

Look for the most skilled model, who actually can teach you what goes into the work. Get that as economically as you can.

Remember that the most experienced and most capable people, are the ones you can learn from, on either side of the camera.

Sep 13 14 04:58 pm Link

Photographer

Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

NicoleNudes wrote:

Hahaha you can't be serious can you?
Please then, enlighten me, what is exactly is that I shoot since it can't possibly be art nudes since I have big boobs.

Please oh please oh wise one of all the genres.

Everybody knows boobs are a no-no in the art world
That Rubens guys told us all about it
hienvy

Sep 15 14 06:35 pm Link

Photographer

Michael Griffey

Posts: 274

Conyers, Georgia, US

"Cheap ain't good, an' good ain't cheap".

Sep 15 14 06:45 pm Link

Artist/Painter

Two Pears Studio

Posts: 3632

Wilmington, Delaware, US

I would start by picking models who have the control and expression to master what you are after...

if you eliminate poor modeling, then any improvement needed in the shot are in your control and you get to learn.

Bidding sounds very weird and non professional... like bidding for a lawyer and doctor... sure it would be great if all things were equal, but a model who knows how to help is invaluable when you are trying to learn.

They direction well
They understand angles and line
They understand how to create mood and feel
They fill out the clothes or the set well...

If you don't care what they look like or etc... then go get yourself some used mannequins and shoot them...

Sep 15 14 10:00 pm Link

Model

Goodbye4

Posts: 2532

Los Angeles, California, US

Sep 21 14 04:30 pm Link

Photographer

Fotografica Gregor

Posts: 4126

Alexandria, Virginia, US

sorry to be a contrarian but you may learn plenty by working with models who will trade at your stage of the game -

when it starts to matter that the model has just the right look for a specific shoot - and by "matter" I mean that you are going to make some money from it or have a publication -  that is the time to invest in a skilled model -

though once you reach that stage you can usually find skilled models wanting to trade for those opportunities as well....

Sep 21 14 04:38 pm Link

Photographer

JONATHAN RICHARD

Posts: 778

New York, New York, US

CrunchySpart wrote:
thoughts on model bidding......
Because I am looking for experience, It doesn't really matter to me who the model is or what she looks like as long as i can learn from them.....
I have not seen a casting call like this so I understand it is very unconventional.

I believe this is a vivid application for your situation.

And what is done to achieve projects objectives with budget constraints controls in just about any commercial business be it private or public.   Architectural Design, Engineering Design, Construction, Project Consultant Services  , Business-IT alignment projects ...  all determine the objectives and  specifications for  their  projects and then open the project specifications  to a bidding process  for selection of the best performance value  to achieve the  project objectives .

Need not be the lowest model bid  selected for the project , yet with vetting  all  the  bidding  models via  their bid price  , work  and references ... the Bid process in itself can allow you a gauge of the  competitiveness in the commercial models marketplace to provide a model  service for financial performance of your project.

Let us know how this process worked for your project.

Sep 21 14 08:07 pm Link

Model

Holly Harlott

Posts: 41

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

If this is a new area of photography you want to tackle, going for the model with the lowest rate is a bad idea. Instead, you should choose your model based on her profile and decide whose work you like best and who you can learn the most from. Since you're new to this area, working with a talented and experienced model with a higher rate will be worth way more than a model who charges the least amount of money but isn't necessarily that great.

Sep 24 14 10:22 pm Link