peliroja-stephie wrote:
I gave up with model mayhem for a while and moved to another site as it kept me busy with work 7 days a week...

Good for you for investigating other ways to market yourself.  Glad the other site is working for you.

peliroja-stephie wrote:
Thanks for the kind words everyone, Again last night I replied to a casting call for a local job which was replied with

''I love you but you are a bit too skinny for me with rather small breasts! I will send a pork pie if you like!''

How many times how you gotten comments like this from such absolute (as you Brits say) Wankers ?

Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:

How many times how you gotten comments like this from such absolute (as you Brits say) Wankers ?

I get this sort of thing every other day, other people are more polite but it all comes down to me not having the body type they want

peliroja-stephie wrote:
Thanks for the kind words everyone, Again last night I replied to a casting call for a local job which was replied with

''I love you but you are a bit too skinny for me with rather small breasts! I will send a pork pie if you like!''

This thread isn't me complaining about big or small models rather than the preference of photographers in the area which I am a tad upset about. I have worked with many plus sized model and models smaller than me, Its doesn't bother me about size as I am quite happy the way I am and at the end of the day we do have our own USP (unique selling point) But I have been rejected so so many times and offended for my size and it is starting to knock my self esteem,

Hello,
Maybe it would help to check out the portfolio and work of the photographer before replying to their castings? If they have a portfolio full of ONLY large breasted models then know that the odds may be against you getting that casting.

Try not to take it hard when someone passes you up or turns you down, it happens all the time and the whim of the moment, (or sometimes the personal issues or quirks of a photographer) have more to do with them and nothing to do with us.

Jen
edit to add that if it is a paid casting then it likely has nothing to do with the photographer but the client and the vision they have for the shoot.

peliroja-stephie wrote:
Thanks for the kind words everyone, Again last night I replied to a casting call for a local job which was replied with

''I love you but you are a bit too skinny for me with rather small breasts! I will send a pork pie if you like!''

This thread isn't me complaining about big or small models rather than the preference of photographers in the area which I am a tad upset about. I have worked with many plus sized model and models smaller than me, Its doesn't bother me about size as I am quite happy the way I am and at the end of the day we do have our own USP (unique selling point) But I have been rejected so so many times and offended for my size and it is starting to knock my self esteem,

You should not let idiots bring you down. 

If you're being rejected because your boobs are not big enough, you're probably being rejected by folks you would not want to work with anyway.

Sure, it sucks to be turned down, but those who appreciate your look will likely be far better at photographing your beauty, than someone who is fapping about taking photos for the chance to see big boobs.

peliroja-stephie wrote:
This is so unfair, all of you awesome people are so bloody far away!!!! Where are all the English photographers!
I think i really need to start considering going on tour

That sounds like a good plan.

peliroja-stephie wrote:
So so sick of being rejected for shoots because I've not got a great big pair.
I'm happy with my small perky breasts, why do i have to have a huge pair to get any paid work off this site?

I gave up with model mayhem for a while and moved to another site as it kept me busy with work 7 days a week but I honestly cant remember when I got a booking off MM, really not a happy girl. My portfolio isn't all that bad

You're tits are lovely. In my opinion.

peliroja-stephie wrote:
This is so unfair, all of you awesome people are so bloody far away!!!! Where are all the English photographers!
I think i really need to start considering going on tour

I'm thinkin' Florida should be your first stop  .  .  . 

SOS

peliroja-stephie wrote:
So so sick of being rejected for shoots because I've not got a great big pair.
I'm happy with my small perky breasts, why do i have to have a huge pair to get any paid work off this site?

I gave up with model mayhem for a while and moved to another site as it kept me busy with work 7 days a week but I honestly cant remember when I got a booking off MM, really not a happy girl. My portfolio isn't all that bad

Excuse my French...but f*ck em! Your tits are fine as they are....

peliroja-stephie wrote:
Thanks for the kind words everyone, Again last night I replied to a casting call for a local job which was replied with

''I love you but you are a bit too skinny for me with rather small breasts! I will send a pork pie if you like!''

Are they nuts? What kind of place is Camberley-Frimley? No wonder Scotland is voting today to have it expelled from Great Britain.

peliroja-stephie wrote:
''I love you but you are a bit too skinny for me with rather small breasts! I will send a pork pie if you like!''

Under what possible circumstances would you work with the moron that made this statement?  Please change your out look on life.  He wasn't rejecting you.  He was informing you of his low class attitude and allowing you to avoid a horrible shoot with a horrible person.

peliroja-stephie wrote:
So so sick of being rejected for shoots because I've not got a great big pair.
I'm happy with my small perky breasts, why do i have to have a huge pair to get any paid work off this site?

I sympathize but like it or not, this is an industry based on looks.

The only other advice I can give (without going into a portfolio critique which will merit a brigging) is to market yourself &/or use talents that go beyond the "just another pretty face." Normally, this means nudes but you already do that. It can also mean but is not limited to incorporating a unique talent (like classical or modern dance) or incorporating your own unique fashion sense that makes people go gaga or creating your own outfits from scratch. It could also mean knowing of or offering a venue to shoot in, particularly for those who are traveling & may not be able to scout locations in advance. Same could be said that if the online world like MM isn't giving you what you need or expect, try other avenues (maybe its a different networking site, maybe its approaching brick & mortar associations or venues like university art departments or cooperatives). Maybe that simply means either doing a tour to a bigger metro area or a willingness to travel there or simply listing yourself there in the hopes of actually being found.

Light and Lens Studio wrote:
Some folks like to drive around in huge SUV's.  Others like to drive around in smaller well designed vehicles like Porsche's  or BMW.  You are definitely in the Porsche, BMW class.

You are just stunningly beautiful.  That's really all you need to know.

so you are saying the huge SUV is not well designed?

Jerry Nemeth wrote:
I have seem models with modest implants.  If it is not overdone they can look good.

There's a great variation is the quality of implant work - from beautiful to hideous. I knew one young lady who had a beautiful - is "set" the proper word? - I would never have know they were implants if she hadn't told me.

The problem with making a blanket statement about hating implants is that the worse the work, the more likely you are to realize that they are implants, but if they're really good you'll think that they are natural.

That said, I agree with the majority here - I think that your breasts are lovely, and would certainly work with you.

peliroja-stephie wrote:
So so sick of being rejected for shoots because I've not got a great big pair.
I'm happy with my small perky breasts, why do i have to have a huge pair to get any paid work off this site?

In our animal history, we men were more attracted sexually to women with a larger fat stores at the mammary glands to amply and more readily feed our offspring. Modern man has the luxury of varied taste in size and aesthetics beyond sexual instinct, though the instinct does somewhat universally remain. What that means is that while many like them "small", bigger boobs will pretty much always get more attention. Even from those who also like them small. That means that if I'm shooting something where boobs are emphasized and mass appeal is important, I'd go for a pair larger than yours.

My personal preference and choices, however, tend to lean toward the ibtc.

peliroja-stephie wrote:
So so sick of being rejected for shoots because I've not got a great big pair.
I'm happy with my small perky breasts, why do i have to have a huge pair to get any paid work off this site?

I gave up with model mayhem for a while and moved to another site as it kept me busy with work 7 days a week but I honestly cant remember when I got a booking off MM, really not a happy girl. My portfolio isn't all that bad

I'd be ecstatic to work with you. You're on the wrong side of the pond though!!!

peliroja-stephie wrote:
So so sick of being rejected for shoots because I've not got a great big pair.
I'm happy with my small perky breasts, why do i have to have a huge pair to get any paid work off this site?

I gave up with model mayhem for a while and moved to another site as it kept me busy with work 7 days a week but I honestly cant remember when I got a booking off MM, really not a happy girl. My portfolio isn't all that bad

... and then when you do have a great pic PERFECT pair-- they will come up with other excuses to not shoot with you. Excuzles Excuzles

What ever happens to just saying up front- no I do not want to shoot with you. LOL

peliroja-stephie wrote:
So so sick of being rejected for shoots because I've not got a great big pair.
I'm happy with my small perky breasts, why do i have to have a huge pair to get any paid work off this site?

I gave up with model mayhem for a while and moved to another site as it kept me busy with work 7 days a week but I honestly cant remember when I got a booking off MM, really not a happy girl. My portfolio isn't all that bad

Models have preferences regarding who or what they want from a shoot, so do photographers.

peliroja-stephie wrote:
So so sick of being rejected for shoots because I've not got a great big pair.
I'm happy with my small perky breasts, why do i have to have a huge pair to get any paid work off this site?

I gave up with model mayhem for a while and moved to another site as it kept me busy with work 7 days a week but I honestly cant remember when I got a booking off MM, really not a happy girl. My portfolio isn't all that bad

I think you're awesome. I'd hire you.

Black Technicolor Art wrote:
Speaking candidly as someone who works in print and has worked in ads:

In the UK the glamour world focuses on boobs, fashion on stick thin women who are tall and lifestyle tends to be a mix of both with "plus-size" girls thrown in for "balance". There's also a huge growth in the fitness model market.

You're none of those. There isn't much commercial value in the UK market for art model figures like yours.

I disagree Jon.

The OP is already working 7 days a week.

It’s more the MM photographers that she has a problem with. 

But I think there is work for models with her dimensions in the UK.  I also work in print and advertising and the model that my main advertising client currently uses was found via MM and she’s roughly the same shape.  Everyone on the client side loves her but tbh mainly because of her great look and charming personality.  For them, there is a great deal of commercial value in her look because it's dead right for their product/s. There’s no nudity or partial nudity required and her breast size hasn't come into it.

And, although it’s ten years since I worked for any UK ladmag, even there a model doesn’t always need big breasts if everything else is wonderful.  What about Arabella Drummond?

Derek Ridgers wrote:
I disagree Jon.

The OP is already working 7 days a week.

It’s more the MM photographers that she has a problem with. 

But I think there is work for models with her dimensions in the UK.  I also work in print and advertising and the model that my main advertising client currently uses was found via MM and she’s roughly the same shape.  Everyone on the client side loves her but tbh mainly because of her great look and charming personality.  For them, there is a great deal of commercial value in her look because it's dead right for their product/s. There’s no nudity or partial nudity required and her breast size hasn't come into it.

And, although it’s ten years since I worked for any UK ladmag, even there a model doesn’t always need big breasts if everything else is wonderful.  What about Arabella Drummond?

If she's working 7 days a week, what's the problem?

RE Arebella: the trend towards "alt-girls" has overcome the big-boob thing somewhat (mellisa clarke is another example) but again, the OP doesn't fit that market either.

It's all about being lucky when it comes to trends or adapting to fit what the market wants. The most successful models and photographers have done exactly that, they've capitlised/benefited from a trend or they've constantly adapted to stay on top.

Survival of the fittest 101. Welcome to Earth.

As for togs on MM, there are plenty who want to shoot girls without big breasts, but are they just offering TF because its for their personal projects? Are MM togs regularly being commisioned to shoot petite/art models models like the OP over here in the UK? Apparently not. The market is significantly smaller than the other fields I've mentioned, you disagree with that too? Then why does she find the situation as it is?