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J O H N A L L A N

Posts: 12221

Los Angeles, California, US

I don't think I've seen this done in the U.S. - at least for the major fashion agencies.

But, I recently noticed that Storm in the UK does this now.

http://www.stormmodels.com/Alzbeta.html?boardId=1005

It's very tasteful and nice.

Oct 23 14 08:10 pm Link

Photographer

KungPaoChic

Posts: 4221

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

it doesn't look like they have done it on all the photos.

Do you think it was a condition set by the photographers?

Oct 23 14 09:20 pm Link

Photographer

J O H N A L L A N

Posts: 12221

Los Angeles, California, US

KungPaoChic wrote:
it doesn't look like they have done it on all the photos.

Do you think it was a condition set by the photographers?

I wouldn't think so, as photographers are used to not having credits on agency boards.
But they seem to be doing it on more than the odd photo here and there - so maybe it's something they're transitioning to.

Oct 23 14 10:55 pm Link

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studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

Photographers in the UK, for instance, can deliberately "assert" moral rights - specifically amongst which is an absolute right, if asserted, to be identified as the author of a photograph [a work] [Right of Attribution (“Paternity”)].

For photographers in some other countries, e.g. France, that right is automatically asserted in any work they create. [Right of Attribution (“Paternity”)]

Photographers based in the US do not have these rights except in the case of certain very specific kinds of works under the VISUAL ARTISTS RIGHTS ACT OF 1990 [VARA]

Studio36

Oct 24 14 09:51 am Link

Photographer

KungPaoChic

Posts: 4221

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

J O H N  A L L A N wrote:

I wouldn't think so, as photographers are used to not having credits on agency boards.
But they seem to be doing it on more than the odd photo here and there - so maybe it's something they're transitioning to.

I know it isn't normal but maybe it was a condition set down by the photographer and they really wanted to use those photographs.

Oct 24 14 10:00 am Link

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studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

The even more irksome situation is for someone - e.g. an agency; or a third party publisher, in particular the likes of on-line webzenes, ect. - to insist on obtaining photographs that are unmarked and then putting their own agency or website logo on them.

I have have a standing bone of contention with Vogue On-Line, for instance, [and some others] about exactly that. 1st) They insist as a condition of submission that the author wave any right to attribution; whilst 2nd) They also make it a condition of submission that they acquire a right to put their own name on your work.

FUCK THAT !!! They aren't paying anything so the least they can do is either offer a credit and / or keep their name off other people's work.

Studio36

Oct 24 14 10:09 am Link

Makeup Artist

sweetcheekscouture

Posts: 465

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

studio36uk wrote:
The even more irksome situation is for someone - e.g. an agency; or a third party publisher, in particular the likes of on-line webzenes, ect. - to insist on obtaining photographs that are unmarked and then putting their own agency or website logo on them.

Studio36

I did a press release and some social media work for a client of mine -- and google his name to see what came up. His IMDB came up and recognize the headshot I took -- with his manger's copyright symbol and photo credit underneath it.

Not cool.

Oct 24 14 10:17 am Link

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studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

sweetcheekscouture wrote:
I did a press release and some social media work for a client of mine -- and google his name to see what came up. His IMDB came up and recognize the headshot I took -- with his manger's copyright symbol and photo credit underneath it.

Not cool.

Yeah, well if it was me they would have heard about it. IF you are the rights owner, then THAT is a breach of US copyright law in fact. see: 17 USC 1201;1202;1203. If it was a serious enough event, and caused you some kind of real loss, there is also the Lanham Act [15 USC] to consider - as that is then a "false statement of origin"

Studio36

Oct 24 14 10:24 am Link

Makeup Artist

sweetcheekscouture

Posts: 465

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

studio36uk wrote:
Yeah, well if it was me they would have heard about it. THAT is a breach of US copyright law in fact. see: 17 USC 1201;1202;1203. If it was a serious enough event, and caused you some kind of real loss, there is also the Lanham Act [15 USC] to consider - as that is then a "false statement of origin"

Studio36

I am going about it the nice way before I directly contact IMDB myself.

Another actor used one of my headshots in the local paper which was fine but did not give me the photo credit --also the article was filled with innaccuracies.

The article and photo got pulled the same day online -- don't know if it went to print since they have a print and digital version.

Oct 24 14 10:35 am Link

Photographer

Posts: 5264

New York, New York, US

This should be standard,
One of the reasons I dislike facebook.
Too many people take photos and posts on their own profile without credit,
Someone states  "great photo" and they respond,
"thanks"

Sigh,
Giggle

Oct 24 14 08:40 pm Link

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Lallure Photographic

Posts: 2086

Taylors, South Carolina, US

Haven't seen that in the U.S.

The agencies do post a list of recommended photographers for new models to test with, though.

Oct 29 14 12:53 pm Link

Photographer

J O H N A L L A N

Posts: 12221

Los Angeles, California, US

Lallure Photographic wrote:
Haven't seen that in the U.S.

The agencies do post a list of recommended photographers for new models to test with, though.

Where do you see that - I've never seen a leading agency do that.

Oct 29 14 10:23 pm Link