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Miss BeeHavin

Posts: 212

Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

Wilde Hunt Corsetry wrote:

The old goth mantra goes "Boots, then corset." smile

oooh, i've been looking for a new mantra. lol.

Jun 21 09 08:04 pm Link

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Miss BeeHavin

Posts: 212

Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

Wilde Hunt Corsetry wrote:

The old goth mantra goes "Boots, then corset." smile

oooh, i've been looking for a new mantra. lol.

Jun 21 09 08:04 pm Link

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TheStitchWitch

Posts: 2183

Needville, Texas, US

Sankta Cecilia wrote:

That's what I've always believed, but then I stumbled upon http://www.bibianblue.net/. Does anyone have any experience with them? Their corsets are gorgeous.

Since they are on MM it would be innapropriate to offer a critique so I'll PM you my thoughts. They are very pretty though. smile

Jun 22 09 06:25 am Link

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Caperucita Roja

Posts: 11545

London, England, United Kingdom

I wore a corset for the first time a few months ago.

It was so tight that after a half our or so I started to feel faint and needed to sit down, the girl who tied it up told me that she'd placed it at a pretty standard measurement, but I don't think she liked me so maybe she lied just to cause me pain...

But anyway, is it really meant to do that to you?

Jun 22 09 06:29 am Link

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TheStitchWitch

Posts: 2183

Needville, Texas, US

Caperucita Roja wrote:
I wore a corset for the first time a few months ago.

It was so tight that after a half our or so I started to feel faint and needed to sit down, the girl who tied it up told me that she'd placed it at a pretty standard measurement, but I don't think she liked me so maybe she lied just to cause me pain...

But anyway, is it really meant to do that to you?

There is no "standard" measurement when wearing a corset. It should be worn at a comfortable level of tightness and then tightened more as it begins to feel looser. It was probably too tight right away and more than likely it was an off-the-rack size so it did not fit you properly anyway.

If you try one again, tighten it until it feels like a firm hug all over but is still comfortable. After about 15 - 30 minutes as you move around it will begin to feel loose and you can tighten it further. You'll find taht you can wear it much tighter than you may expect and for a much longer time. Your body just needs time to get accustomed to it.

Jun 22 09 06:37 am Link

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ZxLatex

Posts: 23

Northampton, England, United Kingdom

I definitely agree, go slow and tighten when ready is a good idea.

The first time i went corset buying, the woman in the shop laced me in quickly and unevenly and i heard a 'crack' in one of my ribs (i have large ribs in comparison to my waist and bust size)... and ever since then i have trouble tightlacing if i don't go in slowly, as there is an agonising pinch by that rib.
I'm not a medic so i have no idea what happened, definately not a break but i can get that rib almost caught under others if i move oddly so can you dislocate??

...So i'd also add check that the corset shape (especially when off the peg) matches the shape of your body if you are slightly oddly shaped. This was a vollers corset that was shaped so it put pressure on my ribs just below my boobs, yet i have a vollers corset with cups that fits ok (though not like a tailored one).Tailormade is definitely the answer if you can afford it!

I have tried: www.galleryserpentine.com.au (their spanish harlot) a good first time corset as it's very comfy and reasonably priced but is not designed for heavy reduction. So more a photoshoot corset/non-tightlacer.

Also http://www.venacavadesign.co.uk/ are good for corsetry supplies in the UK, very helpful and quite cheap

Finally-there has been mention of latex corsets, i've played around with latex corsetting and have yet to find satisfactory results-be VERY cautious when ordering latex corsets if you want reduction, as i have found about 6" of stretch in a 1.2mm corset (no waist tape) and have also found with ones i've bought that the curve is often lost. They need to be taped at the waist to negate this stretch/curve loss (a part often forgotten in latex corsets)
http://www.breathless.uk.com/ do some good ones.
In latex in general, more money is not always better, be sure to know what you are looking at.

I hope this is useful-i'm no corset expert but i thought i'd add my experiences if they can be of any help.

Jun 22 09 08:17 am Link

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Eddie Paradise

Posts: 175

Belchertown, Massachusetts, US

I love corsets, they're very comfortable and especially great on wonky back days (nothing like making it so I have to sit up straight).  Some of these links are great for me cause even though I know how to lace one, doesn't mean the person lacing me up does.

Jun 22 09 01:07 pm Link

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The Dancing Betta

Posts: 21

Dublin, Dublin, Ireland

EXCELLENT thread!

I agree with this statement that has been made before:
- There is no such thing as a cheap AND good corset.
A decently constructed corset is not cheap to make. A couple of years ago I checked how much everything would set me back:
Busk, boning, suitably strong grommets, the fabric used for the strength layers (hidden between the fashion fabric and the lining) amounted to €50 back then, which currently equals about US$70 or GBP40. True, professionals do get discounts for everything but on the other hand they want the hours they spent making the corset to be paid for as well.
So if anyone sells you a NEW corset for anything below that you can bet that they cut corners somewhere.
Also... as I did not see anyone mention that yet... beware of some sellers (mostly from from Asia) on Ebay, they tend to steal pictures from well-known corsetmakers to sell their goods!
That said, if you just need a corset for a shooting or two

- About sizing
Again, I agree that if someone sells corsets by the dress size only it's probably not a real corset. However, I'd also be skeptical and e-mail the seller for more details if ONLY the waist size is given. Different makers use different size charts, so you'd need at least the bust size (for overbiust corsets obviously), underbust measurement and hip measurement as well to have a chance to determine whether the corset will fit or not. Ideally they should also give you the distance between all these measurements and a couple of more length measurements.
I am am midget with a torso more suitable for a tall woman as far as the lengths go so I am unable to wear standard-sized overbust corsets, my girls just don't hang that low on my body.

They should ALWAYS ask all those measurements f you order a custom corset! If they don't, please stay away.

Some shops you may want to check:
http://www.timeless-trends.com/
Make reasonably priced underbust corsets. They won't take you in much but if you're a casual wearer or just want one for a shooting I think they may be worth checking. Have yet to see one in person but they receive good reviews.

http://www.corsetrouge.com/
Makes truly delicious stuff, I can't believe how SMOOTH all her corsets are!
If you're in the UK Fairygothmother in London stocks them along with Puimond and a couple of others.

http://www.deadlycash.com/ is the sales page of http://www.dgfh7.com/ (main site only has belts ATM?!). Not TOO expensive, OK quality, tend to be on the shorter side though (think dreaded tummy bulge).

http://www.morganafemmecouture.com/
Offers both custom and standard-sized corsets that look really beautiful and well-made.

To go back to the US:

http://www.corsetmaker.com/
Again, has a base line, then made to order and then custom. Customers appear to be quite happy.

http://www.dragontowncorsets.com/
Gets good reviews as well!

http://www.blooddrop.com/
Another one I have heard only good things about.

http://www.desertorchidcorsets.co.uk/
Another interesting-looking one

http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5657940
Has some cute stuff too and the recent ones look well-made

I am sure I forgot someone but oh well.

One last note:
Satin and that "chinese brocade" stuff are evil! Almost impossible to get smooth and depending on the quality they can start unraveling quite quickly. I'd try to avoid those if possible.

Jun 22 09 03:31 pm Link

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TheStitchWitch

Posts: 2183

Needville, Texas, US

Asenath wrote:
One last note:
Satin and that "chinese brocade" stuff are evil! Almost impossible to get smooth and depending on the quality they can start unraveling quite quickly. I'd try to avoid those if possible.

Satin is bad? Everyone uses satin, its practically a corsetry staple. Maybe you're thinking about very thin cheap satin? Any fabric will fray if not treated properly but there are ways of doing it right. I use satin and "chinese brocade" lots and have not had any problems.


Another really important tip that sadly needs to be mentioned.

Make sure you're putting the corset on right side up.

I know its hard to tell with some of those crappy boned tube tops but if you can't tell the top from the bottom, you probably are better off not wearing it.

Backwards is bad too. It might make an interesting photo but will ruin your corset and be very uncomfortable.

So-called "reversible corsets" (commonly sold by an obnoxious travelling ren faire purveyor) are bad also. A  good corset is made to fit one way and one way only. Wearing it inside out, upside down or backwards will warp it and make it uncomfortable to wear. You will also shorten the lifespan of your corset if you do this.

Jul 24 09 07:25 am Link

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Knautica20

Posts: 329

Cookeville, Tennessee, US

You should check out my corset piercings photos, Now thats a real corset!!! haha

Jul 28 09 06:23 pm Link

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Kita St Cyr

Posts: 13934

New York, New York, US

BUMP

Aug 30 09 08:09 pm Link

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Pathogenic Confessions

Posts: 20332

Racine, Minnesota, US

Kita St Cyr wrote:
BUMP

Thankies, it was needed!

Aug 30 09 08:18 pm Link

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Jessica Anders

Posts: 708

Lehigh Acres, Florida, US

Thanks for this thread. I've been considering getting a corset and doing a search on Google for information resulted in as much bad advice as good. I have a long torso and would have just bought off-the-rack from anyone with "steel boning" in their description with the info I had before. Now I know I'll probably need to get a custom corset made from one of the purveyors recommended on this thread. Thanks again! You've saved me money and, most likely, quite a bit of unnecessary pain.

Aug 30 09 11:13 pm Link

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Teah_

Posts: 101

Perth, Western Australia, Australia

Great to see a forum about real corsets smile , don't like the costume ones if you're going to wear a corset nothing compares to steel bone ones

Aug 30 09 11:22 pm Link

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Meghan Gerhart

Posts: 901

Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada

I recently lost around 45 pounds and none of my corsets fit me anymore...that's around $400 worth! *sigh* Guess it's time to get that day job I've been putting off. sad

Aug 31 09 01:02 am Link

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Merlinpix

Posts: 7118

Farmingdale, New York, US

http://www.other-woman.com/

Makes awesome corsets, but you have to go to St. Louis.

Aug 31 09 02:46 am Link

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Amelia Talon

Posts: 1472

Seattle, Washington, US

No idea if this has been mentioned but a site that I recommend and I've shopped from is http://www.galleryserpentine.com.au/

Edit: yes it has only a couple posts up, lol.

Aug 31 09 05:20 pm Link

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Victoria Dagger

Posts: 2051

San Francisco, California, US

I take issue with a couple of things in the first post.

Like the statement that 1/4" bones aren't good enough unless you "double them up" or whatever it said.  I'm not the world's most experienced corset-maker by any stretch, but I've done a fair amount of research.  When I took my first corsetmaking class during my undergrad, I asked the staff at Farthingale's (corsetry supply store in Los Angeles) if 1/2" bones would be better, and what the woman said was that a lot of larger women prefer the 1/2" bones for aesthetic (rather than structural) reasons.

The other thing is "a real corset will have grommets."  I myself always use two-part grommets, but I'm pretty sure Electra Designs, for example, uses two-part eyelets (smaller flange), and I've heard other corsetmakers say they prefer stitched eyelets.

Still, kudos for compiling some kind of coherent knowledge on the matter.  I cringe when I see the corsets for sale in the MM marketplace...  especially when the comments say "it's adjustable so it'll fit a small or medium."  ...and the seller was getting rid of it because, surprise, it didn't fit.

My link recommendations:
http://community.livejournal.com/corsetmakers
http://community.livejournal.com/corsetry

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/090825/23/4a94db2c0bcde_m.jpg
me - in an OTR size sample I made - 20" waist

Aug 31 09 06:09 pm Link

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Amanda Lentini

Posts: 173

St Louis, Saskatchewan, Canada

Merlinpix wrote:
http://www.other-woman.com/

Makes awesome corsets, but you have to go to St. Louis.

This so far has been my favorite link cause I live in STL.

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Oct 11 09 09:05 pm Link

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deletedthisaccount

Posts: 499

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

this is a great useful post. xx

Oct 12 09 01:35 am Link

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Little Alice

Posts: 3803

Chicago, Illinois, US

Awesome thread, bump!

Oct 12 09 07:10 am Link

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zhiffy

Posts: 1208

Singapore, Singapore, Singapore

bump (:

you guys mentioned something about stomach muscles weakening. but if you do crunches and then wear the corset for most of the day, it should be ok right?

Oct 14 09 11:45 am Link

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FayeKennett

Posts: 8

Chicago, Illinois, US

Having been modeling corsets for sometime, I can say that everything you put is right on the money! I have a green custom corset that is good for tight lacing, but I found that wearing it at least 24 hours in advance and tightening it slowly that day usually helps to make the day of a shoot much more productive. My corset was damned expensive and I had to wait longer than I wanted to get it, but in the end, I couldn't be happier! Mine is double laced (One lace on top, and one going up from the bottom,) so that I don't need the puller loops.

Also, one thing I would mention, is NEVER try to lace yourself into a real corset! You must keep your spine in alignment to get the best results! Hands gently rested on hips and looking straight forward is best. Otherwise, it can lay funny, pinch your skin, or even lock you into an awkward position!

Dec 24 09 09:45 am Link

Photographer

pullins photography

Posts: 5884

Troy, Michigan, US

Jessica Anders wrote:
Thanks for this thread. I've been considering getting a corset and doing a search on Google for information resulted in as much bad advice as good. I have a long torso and would have just bought off-the-rack from anyone with "steel boning" in their description with the info I had before. Now I know I'll probably need to get a custom corset made from one of the purveyors recommended on this thread. Thanks again! You've saved me money and, most likely, quite a bit of unnecessary pain.

custom is best...get measured by someone who knows what he/she is doing, and then tell them how far you want to go in waist wise. I would suggest no more than 3" at a time, otherwise you might have serious issues

Dec 24 09 09:51 am Link

Clothing Designer

Dark Garden Corsetry

Posts: 14

San Francisco, California, US

Zhi Feng wrote:
bump (:

you guys mentioned something about stomach muscles weakening. but if you do crunches and then wear the corset for most of the day, it should be ok right?

I wouldn't say just crunches, but a full core workout (i.e. pilates or similar).

That's only if you're wearing it on a daily basis, though - if it's just for 6-8 hours every now and then, you should be fine (though it can never hurt to strengthen your core).

FayeKennett wrote:
Also, one thing I would mention, is NEVER try to lace yourself into a real corset! You must keep your spine in alignment to get the best results! Hands gently rested on hips and looking straight forward is best. Otherwise, it can lay funny, pinch your skin, or even lock you into an awkward position!

False.
Will you get better results if someone else (experienced in lacing) does you up?  Absolutely.  But I hate to propogate the myth that you can't put your own corset on.  I do it on a regular basis.  The difficulty, I have found, largely depends on how high-backed the corset is.  It just takes a bit of practice to put it on yourself properly.


Unrelated, one issue with the quoted text in the OP - it says not to roll your corset for storage.  At Dark Garden, all our corset archive is stored rolled flat.  It's totally fine.  The only way I see it being a problem is if you have a lot of diagonal bones.

Dec 24 09 11:13 am Link

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Natasha240

Posts: 6438

Cassina de' Pecchi, Lombardy, Italy

bumping because someone else needed this info today smile

Mar 13 11 11:10 pm Link

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Nedah Oyin

Posts: 11826

Chicago, Illinois, US

bump..

May 09 11 11:12 am Link

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Kerosene Deluxe

Posts: 3482

Langley, British Columbia, Canada

nice to see people who actually understand what a real corset is!!


If I can add a couple of recommendations for excellent corsets:

Lovesick Corrective Apparel (Toronto, Canada)
http://www.lovesickcorrectiveapparel.com

Me wearing Lovesick (custom piece)
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100705/15/4c325a91c01de_m.jpg

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100201/21/4b67b79528307_m.jpg
(non custom piece)


https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110415/12/4da8961ed8388_m.jpg
(custom)



Sweet Carousel Corsetry (Alberta, Canada)
http://www.sweetcarousel.com

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110225/00/4d67666a6d43f_m.jpg
(me wearing Sweet Carousel)

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110412/10/4da48c5d7afdf_m.jpg
(both non customs)


Other amazing Corsetiers

Electra Designs
http://electradesigns.net/

Versatile Fashions
http://versatilecorsets.com/

Puimond
http://www.puimond.com

May 09 11 11:58 am Link

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Kerosene Deluxe

Posts: 3482

Langley, British Columbia, Canada

FayeKennett wrote:
Also, one thing I would mention, is NEVER try to lace yourself into a real corset! You must keep your spine in alignment to get the best results! Hands gently rested on hips and looking straight forward is best. Otherwise, it can lay funny, pinch your skin, or even lock you into an awkward position!

this is not true...it's perfectly fine to lace yourself in a corset. Although it can be tricky if you aren't experienced in doing this, there's no harm in it at all...
A good corset should not lay funny or pinch you anyway...

It is nicer to have someone else do it for you though, that's for sure...

May 09 11 12:03 pm Link

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theda

Posts: 21719

New York, New York, US

Kerosene Deluxe wrote:

this is not true...it's perfectly fine to lace yourself in a corset. Although it can be tricky if you aren't experienced in doing this, there's no harm in it at all...
A good corset should not lay funny or pinch you anyway...

It is nicer to have someone else do it for you though, that's for sure...

True. I can never cinch myself quite as tightly as someone else can (especially if I have something to cling to a la Scarlett O'Hara), but it's by no means impossible.

May 09 11 03:07 pm Link

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Myrlena

Posts: 104

Memphis, Tennessee, US

Asenath wrote:
http://www.timeless-trends.com/
Make reasonably priced underbust corsets. They won't take you in much but if you're a casual wearer or just want one for a shooting I think they may be worth checking. Have yet to see one in person but they receive good reviews.

YES!!!!!!!!!! I buy all my corsets from them. They are positively amazing. I personally am brought in amazingly by their corsets, and as soon as I finished corset training, I treated myself to a 20" by them. It has survived 3 years of modeling, constant renaissance festivals (Where I work as a fencer so they endure a lot of abuse and stabs/sword glances) as well as in some plays I was performing in every weekend (and quick costume changes are a bitch on any busk).

They have a LIFETIME guarantee!!!! The busk on my leather underbust (which can be seen in one of my pictures) has a significant enough bend to warrant replacement, and its been stabbed and punctured a bit. I called up T-T and they said "Send it over!" despite the fact that *I* inflicted the damage. They are just that amazing. Naturally my waist is now about 23" and their 18" underbusts close me without a problem (where as some corsets I am not comfortable in anything less than a 20")

Just wanted to throw my two cents in about Timeless, and I hope some of you all might check them out! They have amazing styles and great customer service! Especially if any of you work at or attend Ren-Faire's, they will last. ((Unlike a certain 'corset' maker who shall remain named Casta Diva whose bodices can't endure even a month of faire without fraying and some boning coming through the fabric since they 'forget' to finish off the tips of the steel... *end rant*))

May 09 11 05:28 pm Link

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Posts: 2

Baltimore, Maryland, US

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Baltimore, Maryland, US

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