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MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50816
Leawood, Kansas, US
New Dawn Photography wrote: This is true and perhaps I took it wrong but you add the word Americans it singles us out. Why not just say prudes. Why attack a certain nationality as though that is the way "They" are. Because America is pretty much the only country that would get in a tizzy about this. Don't act brand new. This is a given.
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MYS Britt
Posts: 10720
San Diego, California, US
Jessalyn wrote:
As Melissa has just said, while you may not be ashamed of it, the very same people that would judge you for the nude photos you are afraid of in your original post are the same people that will judge you for honey/nipple/tongue extravangzas. Just think about this concern for all of your photos, not just the ones you are referring to in your original post. Having looked at the OP port i am really surprised shes upset... the whole lot are very sexual teasing eye candy ''men's style'' shots!
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Sophistocles
Posts: 21320
Seattle, Washington, US
In all honesty, it's too late. Release or no release, he has them. Release or no release, if you ever became terribly famous, he'd sell them to a publisher who would risk publishing the non-released photos because they'd be deemed "newsworthy" at that point. And if you became only slightly famous, they'd be on the Internet, hosted in China and Taiwan, and there'd be nothing you could do about that, either. If you don't become famous, it's not an issue. So no matter how you look at it, what's done is done. So enjoy the photos, take pride in your work, and move on.
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Mickle Design Werks
Posts: 5967
Washington, District of Columbia, US
Miss Santos wrote: Last week for the first time I took nude photographs. The shoot was supposed to be implied but the photographer kept telling me he had to have body shots for his port since he had none and that my identity and face would remain anonymous. We took many artistic and commercial shots in black and white with white sheets. We did several poses and when I got my pictures back there were many were u could see everything genitals and all WITH my face exposed. I know at the time I let him take the photographs but NEVER did I intend on taking full nude pictures, probably my whole career. I plan on going into acting and if I ever make a name for myself I don't want these pictures to come back after me. I regret taking any full nudes. The other ones were cool now I'm uncomfortable and uneasy that there are nude pictures of me out there. What can I do? Yeah yeah I know I agreed at the time but I regret it now and I don't feel right. Is there anything I can do to protect my privacy? I dealt with a Model last year that regreted doing implied nudes with me. Her fears were as irrational as your are. Seriously, when was the last time nude photos actually hurt (as in financial ruin) the career of an actress? If anything, it HELPS their career as the doors that closed were offset by the doors that opened. So, unless you want to acting for family oriented or religious outlets (Disney, 700 Club, etc.) I have a hard time believing that nude images will hurt you. As to what to do: 1. You can offer a buy out to the Photographer. This would be the right thing to do since you are now telling him that you don't want him to benefit from the time and investment that he made in the shoot. 2. Live with your choice and celebrate your body at this time and space. I shoot a lot of older women that wished that they had taken pictures of themselves in their prime. It's ironic that you now fear what I think you will cherish in the next 15-20 years.
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ModelMayhem29
Posts: 2603
New York, New York, US
Jessalyn wrote:
As Melissa has just said, while you may not be ashamed of it, the very same people that would judge you for the nude photos you are afraid of in your original post are the same people that will judge you for honey/nipple/tongue extravangzas. Just think about this concern for all of your photos, not just the ones you are referring to in your original post. exactly..anyone who thinks a nude is scandalous will think that lesbian action shots are scandalous, you bent in a tiny g-string is scandalous and so on. you already shot yourself in the foot if you are worried about people seeing the nude photos as harming to your career
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Rick Dupuis Photography
Posts: 6825
Truro, Nova Scotia, Canada
Miss Santos wrote:
The first one is someone elses breast just my tongue nothing I'd ever be ashamed of because it is artistic. The second one you can barely see anything. None of this makes any sense because in your original post you said, quote, "We took many artistic and commercial shots in black and white with white sheets. " Now you're saying the one in your port is artistic and you'd never be ashamed of it. Either you're ashamed of artistic nudes or you're not. Which is it?
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Xeris - Dwight
Posts: 4369
Austin, Texas, US
Miss Santos wrote:
The first one is someone elses breast just my tongue nothing I'd ever be ashamed of because it is artistic. The second one you can barely see anything. Yes, but ---YOUR--- face is a major component in a highly erotic image with a bare breast. Puritans are not gonna take kindly to that either.
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Urban Grace Ms Santos
Posts: 89
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Kymberly Jane wrote: .....Artistic nude is Wrong to you.....But you are doing the Squat Porn pose in your Avitar?..... no fashion.. alll lusty implied shots.. My personal Opinion.... you got a better shot making More money NUDE modeling..rather then a Struggling actress.. oh..and Im not even gonna Mention the Lick the Honey off a Titty shot~.... PORN....NOT ART... i for one..should be able to tell the difference.. AS I DO BOTH. Struggling actress? Nobody needs your negativity. Your opinion is dismissed
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MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50816
Leawood, Kansas, US
Mickle Design Werks wrote:
I dealt with a Model last year that regreted doing implied nudes with me. Her fears were as irrational as your are. Seriously, when was the last time nude photos actually hurt (as in financial ruin) the career of an actress? If anything, it HELPS their career as the doors that closed were offset by the doors that opened. So, unless you want to acting for family oriented or religious outlets (Disney, 700 Club, etc.) I have a hard time believing that nude images will hurt you. As to what to do: 1. You can offer a buy out to the Photographer. This would be the right thing to do since you are now telling him that you don't want him to benefit from the time and investment that he made in the shoot. 2. Live with your choice and celebrate your body at this time and space. I shoot a lot of older women that wished that they had taken pictures of themselves in their prime. It's ironic that you now fear what I think you will cherish in the next 15-20 years. Disney won't even fire you. Vanessa Hutchens (sp?) anyone? Shit. Her nude "scandal" helped her.
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K_G
Posts: 2930
Detroit, Michigan, US
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MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50816
Leawood, Kansas, US
Miss Santos wrote:
Struggling actress? Nobody needs your negativity. Your opinion is dismissed And so it begins.
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Kymberly Jane
Posts: 2251
Los Angeles, California, US
this is a Confusing thread.. she Most likely did a bend over pose.... and when she saw the Raw file she was Mortified.. because her WHOLE whoHAw was there.. (its what HE WANTED..not you)
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Kymberly Jane
Posts: 2251
Los Angeles, California, US
when i saw struggling.. i mean: ARE YOU PAID 10,000 a day yet for Films?..No?.. SHOCKING....your a struggling actress who has a problem with photographers seeing your Kooter.. either DONT EVEN DO ANY NUDES (IMPLIED..WET..SEE THRU..WHATEVER)..only do fashion and casting actress calls.. Or GO FULL MONTY and stop wasting our Thread time~
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K_G
Posts: 2930
Detroit, Michigan, US
MelissaLynnette LaDiva wrote:
Disney won't even fire you. Vanessa Hutchens (sp?) anyone? Shit. Her nude "scandal" helped her. LOL, Disney can't possibly fire someone for that considering they own Touchstone Pictures...(the movie company). All the movies that are too risque' for "family" they release under "Touchstone."
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Trish Noble
Posts: 965
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Miss Anna Evans wrote: Obviously I am not concerned with the photos already posted in my port if I was they wouldn't be there. I don't care if people thought badly of those in the future. My issue is pictures of my full body with my face and my frontal privates exposed COMPLETELY when I was told my face wouldn't be in them. then obviously we are not going to be concerned with your plight. seriously, licking a "sticky substance" off some chicks nipple (even though you are not touching her) is going to ruin your big acting career more than pictures of your hoo haa. at first i felt sympathetic towards you, then i looked at your port and became very very confused.
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Image K
Posts: 23400
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
I bought a Winnebago last week, and now I've decided that I don't want it... I wonder if I just take it back, I can get my money back?
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Kymberly Jane
Posts: 2251
Los Angeles, California, US
Image K wrote: I bought a Winnebago last week, and now I've decided that I don't want it... I wonder if I just take it back, I can get my money back? First..you should make a thread HERE about it.. and SAY you got the thing for artsy reasons.. but now regret it~
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Anha Nguyen
Posts: 352
Orange, California, US
Miss Santos wrote: The first one is someone elses breast just my tongue nothing I'd ever be ashamed of because it is artistic. The second one you can barely see anything. the first one i feel is worse than a nude picture of you... its a bit sexual much? If you have pictures like that online, with your face clearly in the picture, I would be more worried about this image than nude ones. that picture is more erotic than artistic IMO maybe for horney old men it will be artistic
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Kymberly Jane
Posts: 2251
Los Angeles, California, US
Miss Santos wrote:
Struggling actress? Nobody needs your negativity. Your opinion is dismissed I am Dismissed..because i am Logical.. ohhh i love new models~
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MsB
Posts: 2603
New York, New York, US
Miss Santos wrote:
Obviously I am not concerned with the photos already posted in my port if I was they wouldn't be there. I don't care if people thought badly of those in the future. My issue is pictures of my full body with my face and my frontal privates exposed COMPLETELY when I was told my face wouldn't be in them. I'm sorry you felt pressured to do nude pics BUT you could have ended the shoot right then & there. People, the photograher in your case, only take as much as they can get. You went too far but ultimately it was YOUR own choice. I also must ask two questions: first, why is it ok to show your vagina just because your face wasn't exposed? Second, do you realize the pics you have NOW would come back to haunt you if you were to become a "legit" actress? Think about it...
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New Dawn Photography
Posts: 3015
San Ramon, California, US
Jessalyn wrote:
Because the OP is in America (U.S.). Prudes in France are probably different from prudes in the U.S. You could be right, I suppose so I appologise for that. However, I really would like to point something out...I've lived in America my whole life and traveled around much of it. There are certainly a great deal of people here with prudish attitudes. However, even their opinions vary a great deal. This country is huge. The way most of the world seems to view alot about us is vary black and white. It really isn't so much that way. Much of the problem has to do with what the media portrays. It always shows the worst of the worst for ratings and sales and those who do most of the complaining about things like nudity are the extreamists. It just gets very tiring seeing everyone saying "American" this and that when there are such a wide variaty of opinions here.
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JEBKA Photography
Posts: 3974
Firestone, Colorado, US
Jessalyn wrote:
Because the OP is in America (U.S.). Prudes in France are probably different from prudes in the U.S. What do Prunes have to do with photography?
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Image K
Posts: 23400
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Kymberly Jane wrote:
I am Dismissed..because i am Logical.. ohhh i love new models~ If you disagree with a new model, you are being "negative"... Didn't you know that?
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Kymberly Jane
Posts: 2251
Los Angeles, California, US
Anha Nguyen wrote:
the first one i feel is worse than a nude picture of you... its a bit sexual much? If you have pictures like that online, with your face clearly in the picture, I would be more worried about this image than nude ones. what about the white milky whatever substance streaming down her backside in the shower....it seems that you are Spreading the cheeks a bit?.. i deem your page PORN.. sucks.. sorry..but im not suprised a photographer tried pushing you past limits.. LOOK AT MY PAGE.. can you IMAGINE what photographers push me to do?... i have limits too.. you Just gota be LOGICAL..and not a headstrung Newbie
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Scott Sullivan
Posts: 1175
West Branch, Michigan, US
Miss Santos wrote: Last week for the first time I took nude photographs. The shoot was supposed to be implied but the photographer kept telling me he had to have body shots for his port since he had none and that my identity and face would remain anonymous. We took many artistic and commercial shots in black and white with white sheets. We did several poses and when I got my pictures back there were many were u could see everything genitals and all WITH my face exposed. I know at the time I let him take the photographs but NEVER did I intend on taking full nude pictures, probably my whole career. I plan on going into acting and if I ever make a name for myself I don't want these pictures to come back after me. I regret taking any full nudes. The other ones were cool now I'm uncomfortable and uneasy that there are nude pictures of me out there. What can I do? Yeah yeah I know I agreed at the time but I regret it now and I don't feel right. Is there anything I can do to protect my privacy? First as a Photographer I would have respected your concerns and done them tastefully, and second if your telling me you don't want them posted in public domain, then they woun't be, but I cannot speak for the photographer. if he is a porn sleeze he is gonna post them. your best bet is to review the contract you signed, and see if you consented to nudity being placed in public access. GL S
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Image K
Posts: 23400
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Miss Santos wrote:
Struggling actress? Nobody needs your negativity. Your opinion is dismissed
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New Dawn Photography
Posts: 3015
San Ramon, California, US
MelissaLynnette LaDiva wrote:
Because America is pretty much the only country that would get in a tizzy about this. Don't act brand new. This is a given. This is my point. The country really doesn't get in a tizzy over these things. Some here do and they get all the press coverage be throw fits. So people in the rest of the world, and many here, see it as a givin that most of us see it this way and, although too many do, I think most of us don't.
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WIP
Posts: 15973
Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom
Miss Santos wrote:
Obviously I am not concerned with the photos already posted in my port if I was they wouldn't be there. I don't care if people thought badly of those in the future. My issue is pictures of my full body with my face and my frontal privates exposed COMPLETELY when I was told my face wouldn't be in them. Face would'nt be in them.. they type of pic's you see on escort sites !.
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Kymberly Jane
Posts: 2251
Los Angeles, California, US
Image K wrote:
i love K...always makes the war's more colorful~
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Forbidden-Fruit
Posts: 140
Chicago, Illinois, US
Miss Santos wrote: Last week for the first time I took nude photographs. The shoot was supposed to be implied but the photographer kept telling me he had to have body shots for his port since he had none and that my identity and face would remain anonymous. We took many artistic and commercial shots in black and white with white sheets. We did several poses and when I got my pictures back there were many were u could see everything genitals and all WITH my face exposed. I know at the time I let him take the photographs but NEVER did I intend on taking full nude pictures, probably my whole career. I plan on going into acting and if I ever make a name for myself I don't want these pictures to come back after me. I regret taking any full nudes. The other ones were cool now I'm uncomfortable and uneasy that there are nude pictures of me out there. What can I do? Yeah yeah I know I agreed at the time but I regret it now and I don't feel right. Is there anything I can do to protect my privacy? wow I have a similar situation. I know exactly how you feel! Im almost scared to even go after my dream. I m scared that if i make it that all the nude shots will destroy me.
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Trish Noble
Posts: 965
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
6 of the 19 pictures in your page are nude (implied or otherwise), and all show your face. that is why everyone here is confused. if the photographer got more than you originally agreed upon, ask him to not to use those images. end of story.
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MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50816
Leawood, Kansas, US
New Dawn Photography wrote:
This is my point. The country really doesn't get in a tizzy over these things. Some here do and they get all the press coverage be throw fits. So people in the rest of the world, and many here, see it as a givin that most of us see it this way and, although too many do, I think most of us don't. I disagree. I don't think it's as dire as some make it out to be, but the average person still thinks Playboy is real porn and that right there is telling.
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Urban Grace Ms Santos
Posts: 89
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Wow I have a headache. Thank u everyone for your input negative and positive. I have gathered enough information that I need to ease my mind.
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Kymberly Jane
Posts: 2251
Los Angeles, California, US
trashy t modelography wrote: 6 of the 19 pictures in your page are nude (implied or otherwise), and all show your face. that is why everyone here is confused. if the photographer got more than you originally agreed upon, ask him to not to use those images. end of story. leave it to TRsih.. to put it Sweetly..what I been Screaming at this chick all morning about~ Trishy Saves the Day~
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Friday Funday
Posts: 68
Portland, Oregon, US
Jessalyn wrote: You are upset because you are going into acting and don't want those photos to surface later. I'm curious then, what if these photos surfaced? They include nudity or implied nudity. https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … id=4892657 https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … id=6998908 American prudes see it all the same. That first shot, especially. Not only is there nudity, but it's very sexual in nature. If that doesn't bother you, than I really don't see why some tastefully done, artistic nudes would effect your career any differently.
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Image K
Posts: 23400
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Forbidden-Fruit wrote:
wow I have a similar situation. I know exactly how you feel! Im almost scared to even go after my dream. I m scared that if i make it that all the nude shots will destroy me. Unless you girls make it to the "Hally-Berry-20-million-dollars-per-movie-level", what are the REAL chances these pictures are gonna bite you in the ass?
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J Cloud
Posts: 567
Cherry Hill, New Jersey, US
I wish I had the balls to start threads to get people to look at my port ... that clip of the So You Think You Can Dance dude has got me crying with laughter over here...
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Kymberly Jane
Posts: 2251
Los Angeles, California, US
Forbidden-Fruit wrote:
wow I have a similar situation. I know exactly how you feel! Im almost scared to even go after my dream. I m scared that if i make it that all the nude shots will destroy me. you girls are in the WRONG buisness.. Even SUPER HIGH FASHION people.. will have you shoot nude.. the LINE between art and porn is SOOO blurry..it isnt even a Grey area anymore~ i do Acting Roles.. i do Commercial parts.. I do fashion.. i Do porn.. YOU HAVE TO HAVE CONFIDENCE..to do it all.. NOT throw everything away because of 1 bad day.. CMON.......
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