MinisterC  wrote:

That's scripture. It's about not letting your talents go to waste. Specifically, spritual talents, but I doubt the OP meant it that way. Maybe so.

Thank you, I was about to ask in the thread actually. The OP didn't want to explain it seemed and simply said it was a quote from the Bible and "when someone adds quotes to a statement that means they're repeating something they either heard or read."

I have this feeling she won't give me a more defined answer than that.

MMDesign wrote:
Hell, I don't want to sleep with models, I'd much rather have sex with them.


I'm kidding.


No, really.

I'd rather sleep with them literally than have sex with them.

Jessica Omena wrote:
Played
   
Made a fool of, chumped, taken advantage of.
b

Not exactly the finest example of mature behaviour. Playing begets playing.
A firm: "No, I'm not interested." - will do.

Anything other than a firm and confident "no" will turn your rejection into a challenge and merely encourage most unwanted sexual advances.

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Geez, I cant believe im giving BASIC social interaction education to "grown" Women.

Rozetta Marie wrote:
2/9/09:
(This post has been edited since so many people have gotten the wrong idea...)

Note:
This forum is not about anyone I know or have ever worked with. It's a testimonial from a friend of mine who's not on MM and wanted me to gather feedback about the subject. I initially wrote it as if it were me because I knew I'd get more feedback. In any case... any photographers who I've ever worked with here on MM, please note this is not about you in any way, shape or form. If anyone has specific inquiries about this subject matter please feel free to contact me privately.

Models:
For the ones who have contacted me privately, I appreciate you sharing your experiences. Keep up the good work in your careers and stay safe.

All Forum People:
Thanks to all of you for responding, giving advice, sharing experiences, and even the ones who corrected me and thought to crack a joke or 2. I appreciate all feedback. I won't be posting anything else on this topic after today so... have fun.

What I got from all the responses, advice, etc...:
1. Check referrences
2. It's actaully a good idea to bring someone with you, but someone like a stylist, manager, or other professional party. Not someone who will interfere with the shoot.
3. Just because a photographer doesn't allow escorts doesn't mean he's not on the up and up.
4. It may be ok to have a drink, meet to discuss a shoot over dinner, etc... it's all about the vibe you get from the person. Most can tell if the offer or gesture is outside of just business.
5. We're all human, whether we're a photographer, model, singer, actress... and the same way people can fall in love in the corporate industry, is the same way people in this industry can fall in love. It may not be anything wrong with a photographer asking out a model. It's what happens after that counts. If she accepts, then that's between the 2 of them. However, like some stories I've received... If someone says no then they should move on. But that shouldn't ruin their work relationship. If a photog allows that to make him/her not want to shoot with the model again then that's when we can say he/she was not on the up and up and the model should've did #1 (check referrences).

If this helped only 1 person I'm happy. However, if this hurt anyone, then I apologize

Stay safe... 

"What the hell?"

Example #1:
"Why can't someone be able to do a sexy or even nude shoot without the phone call or text msg or email that comes after it... "I was looking at the pics from our shoot and your body is amazing... we should really hang out sometime... go get a drink... I'll even cook you dinner... you know just showing you my gratitude for such a great shoot..."

Example #2:
"Oh yeah... and the ones that don't want you to bring an escort only because in the back of their minds they want to try their hand at getting you to sleep with them after or even during the shoot!"

Example #3:
"And then when you say no, they no longer want to shoot with you..."

This post has been edited from it's original version
thanks

Jennifer Amorelli wrote:
i agree on your message i had one photographer LADIES REMEBER HIS NAME

(contact me for that info)  from NY and here in CALI in hollywood, he took my photo's then attemted to assault me. I got pissed, I walked out and he tryed to be cool about it

he said that he never got turned on like this before and he didnt know what came over him.. he never gave me my photos either.

are his initials P.H?
if they are he tried the same bullshit on me. first last and only time ill fall for that shiiit!

Greg Cobb Photography wrote:
I know someone who was told by a GWC that she'd never model if she didn't take her clothes off.  The sad thing is that she isn't model material anyway.  He made sure she had beer at the shoot and got her naked (as usual).  Then he propositioned her after the shoot.

I know someone who shot a model. Both survived. In fact, they were quite satisfied with the shoot, and the resulting images.



I bet there are many thousands more stories like mine than yours.

ChanStudio - OtherSide wrote:
Maybe this is the reason why some models only work with female photographers...  But I call this sexist!

  By the way, not all photographers interested in having sex with models.

A model friend of mine who shoots artistic and fine art nudes as well as bondage and fetish told me that the only photographer who ever came on to her was female. So there goes that theory.

Robert Randall wrote:
Were you doing some sort of porn/oral POV with them when this happened?

lol i wasnt. Doing anything porn related isnt my thing.
It was a regular shoot. It was a glam style shoot and i had on clothes.
I have had 9 separate situations with 9 photographers who have come on to me.
A few just simply let me know in their own way that they would like to sleep with me, & then there was a few who went tooooo far.

I am professional when i do a shoot. I am a nice person but i do not lead anyone on.
When i wear a two-piece i cant control if the guy is attracted to me....Im not saying that im the hottest...im just saying that there are alot of men who want me.

I try not to do anything with photographers or lead them on...I dont want to be known as the whore

All i was saying that in the modeling industry rather you are big-time or not....If you are attractive then you are going to get all kinds of people coming on to you in all kinds of ways. Rather if its just by them saying something sexual to you or touching you inappropriately, and etc.

Being approached on a sexual level is  part of the inevitable.
lol you cant control who likes you and how they decide to express that.

Citizen Deathwish wrote:
Nothing about this makes you wonder if YOU are part of the problem? Because, FYI, its not that common...

lol no i am far from being part of the problem.
I've just learned not to waste time making a big fuss over what i cant control.
The only person i can control is me.


You people seem to take what i am saying the wrong way.
No it doesnt happen all the time but it does happen alot
Of course if you are ugly it may not happen to you...lol

wow it sucks that people seem to be reading into what i have said a little more than what is actually needed. I have not given all details but i just stated the main points that i was trying to reach.....why are people so negative and search for the smallest thing and make it into something that its not

excuse me for not using the same words in the same way as others......

but i understand that its not just the models.....sometime models come on to photographers Also some models lead some guys on and then get mad when they get more that what they bargained for.Basically i can understand on both ends coming from a model and coming from the photographer.

There are all kinds of situations and circumstances that occur.

Engel Schrei wrote:

Seriously??

Is it really that fucking hard to just walk out of the damn shoot?

Paid or not, if you are at a shoot and you are uncomfortable beyond what you're willing to put up with, just fucking leave. Walk out. Vamoose. Gehen Sie aus. Scram.

It's NOT a difficult thing to do. If a photographer or WHOEVER at the shoot is acting inappropriately, walk to your stuff, gather it up, get dressed, and walk out the door. You don't have to say a single word. JUST LEAVE.

Ugh.

I've shot with 200+ photographers in the last 2 years. I've had to tell someone to back off maybe 3?4? times? and I've walked out on ONE shoot.

Go into it with a no bullshit policy. If they hit on you, look at them and tell them "no"... and leave it at that.

just because i didnt list ALL the detail doesnt mean i didnt have the sense to leave.
He was cool till the ending half of the shoot. So i cut it and and an excuse to stop the shoot and leave

wow why  do you feel the need to shoot with 200 photographers? That is unnecessary.....well if they are all paying you then i understand

Engel Schrei wrote:
wow why  do you feel the need to shoot with 200 photographers? That is unnecessary.....well if they are all paying you then i understand

Wow, what a lame attempt at a comeback.

She doesn't "feel the need", as such, she gets all those jobs because she's bloody good. And working with many people makes her very connected.

Caperucita Roja wrote:
Wow, what a lame attempt at a comeback.

She doesn't "feel the need", as such, she gets all those jobs because she's bloody good. And working with many people makes her very connected.

lol i am sorry you feel the way you feel
I dont waste time trying to get back at people.
I was honestly shocked at the fact that she worked with so many in just 2years.
I just dont see the point in shooting with THAT many is all.

im not knocking the girl or saying anything bad towards her so calm down.
i just voice my opinion. If you dont like then.......oh well
you shouldnt even waste your time on such  a pointless  point.

lol i think im going to just stop replying to posts.
I see there are alot of simple-minded, irrational, ignorant people who have nothing better to do than to be mean to people without even thinking  or READING properly before replying to things.

i guess perceptions it a good and bad thing...but a bad thing in this case

Forbidden-Fruit wrote:
lol i am sorry you feel the way you feel
I dont waste time trying to get back at people.
I was honestly shocked at the fact that she worked with so many in just 2years.
I just dont see the point in shooting with THAT many is all.

im not knocking the girl or saying anything bad towards her so calm down.
i just voice my opinion. If you dont like then.......oh well
you shouldnt even waste your time on such  a pointless  point.

lol i think im going to just stop replying to posts.
I see there are alot of simple-minded, irrational, ignorant people who have nothing better to do than to be mean to people without even thinking  or READING properly before replying to things.

i guess perceptions it a good and bad thing...but a bad thing in this case

Well you see my dear fruit loop, it is actually you who is speaking irrationally here, there was no anger or ignorance in what I said. Let me put it in a simpler way for you.

If you were an estate agent and you sold 200 houses in 2 years, would you ask what the point of that great achievement was?

If you were a fruit seller and you sold 200 apples in a day would you ask what the point of that was?

She gets plenty of money, plenty of clients. There's nothing pointless about that, isn't that the goal most people wish to achieve when they choose to pursue modeling?

i EDEN wrote:
is someone gonna mop up these bloody carcasses before they rot up the place?

Nah, I'll be happy to eat them up! NOM MEAT!

Rozetta Marie wrote:

WOW! He contacted me to do a shoot too and I told him I was bringing my designer and he was like ok I'll let you know when and never heard back.

Signore Arrighi wrote:
This is pure slander!!!!

You bumped a two year old thread to make an incoherent response?

Art of the nude wrote:

You bumped a two year old thread to make an incoherent response?

was thinking the same thing when I saw the date on the op....  who the hell drug this thread out of its grave...