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Nudity Necessary?
BodyartBabes wrote: I like this. Jun 04 12 10:53 am Link silverystars wrote: +1 Jun 04 12 11:31 am Link I think that it depends... plain and simple. For me... skin is super luminous and makes for amazing color. Of course it is also pleasant to look at and draw... the lines and curves are delightful to attempt. I go for what ever is best for the visual quality I am after. I think nudity can be poorly executed if nothing else is there to offer the viewer a place to rest. Nudity for nudity sake is a cliche and may titillate, but is not art... just a graphical representation. So shoot nudes or don't... it is a preference... just think each shot through and determine what is needed for the shot. Sometimes Nudity is the best for the image and it is good to have that option. Jun 04 12 11:38 am Link Live and let live... You don't need anybody to think the same as you; just don't do what you don't want to. Jun 04 12 11:40 am Link Matthew Braney wrote: "Now isn't that special" The church lady SNL Jun 04 12 11:49 am Link I don't generally shoots nudes because I don't have a market for them, it's strictly economics. When I have been hired to I shoot them, it's that simple. Jun 04 12 11:55 am Link Necessary? That is a silly question. Necessary for what?- to be in one exact photo group. Why would you even join a glamour-esque photo group if that's not what you like. People's views on sexy, sexual, beautiful, artistic are always completely utterly different. Jun 04 12 03:07 pm Link Matthew Braney wrote: In all fairness.... Jun 04 12 03:12 pm Link Matthew Braney wrote: Who are you to judge what my intentions are? Jun 04 12 03:20 pm Link in the words of a now dead man  Mien Fuir iest Dungshnukered.Jun 04 12 03:26 pm Link Motives and talent vary in every genre, not just nudes. As long as all parties involved are in agreement with the pending results then no one gets hurt... and that goes for those local GWC meet-ups you mentioned. Let them do there thing and I'll do mine  Jun 04 12 06:26 pm Link Well you've must not have been to any of my Meet-ups. Yes, a lot of them are for GWC's who want to see nekid ladies. Be selective and you can find groups that fit your style. And yes I do shoot nudes, it is part of how I pay the bills. Dean Orcatek.com www.meetup.com/orcatek/ Jun 04 12 06:32 pm Link OP, try http://tinyurl.com/bnj6azn (that is a tinyurl to a Google search)... OTH a question, is study of a nude figure "compulsory" part of painter's or sculptor's education? Jun 04 12 06:59 pm Link Matthew Braney wrote: OK.. I agree to disagree. Jun 04 12 07:08 pm Link Charger Photography wrote: +1 Nudity Necessary? Until the photograher can't make real money from shooting nude, the nude will be never became something "necessary". Jun 04 12 11:39 pm Link Matthew Braney wrote: you failed when you automatically equate nudity with sexuality. Jun 04 12 11:47 pm Link I enjoy photography, I also like attractive girls, so putting them together as 1 concept was an obvious step, it's not a sexual thing or a fetish it's just photography of pretty girls that are pleasing to the eye, I enjoy controlling the make over & seeing the results, sometimes both myself & the model are shocked by the results in a positive way... Earning a good living from it is a bonus, I wake up & look forward to work... I don't see any issues. Jun 05 12 01:30 am Link A well known sculptor I used to work for full time told me that he rarely does nudes because people like to look at them but they won't buy them to put in their livingrooms. As I'm just now selling some of my pieces in galleries I always keep his wisdom in mind. Unless a concept demands nudity to work visually I tend to avoid it. Jun 05 12 01:56 am Link I don't shoot nudes very often. I love shooting brightly colored clothing. I haven't tried shooting dedicated art nudes either. However, the next concept for which I am casting (Chainmaille) basically can't be shot otherwise. Hence, it's an 18+ casting. I am really curious what I can create.  You tell me if this is sexual in nature (pun intended) - https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/14306571 (18+) If the people I shoot happen to not wear clothes, it does not affect my thinking or image composition. Jun 05 12 01:56 am Link If you do photography as a hobby, then just like any other hobby, you do it because its something you enjoy. Shoot whatever photography styles makes you happy. If you try a different style of photography and you don't enjoy it, try something else. Jun 05 12 06:54 am Link Matthew Braney wrote: Of course, any capable photographer can do this... Do you have any examples you can refer me to within your port? Jun 05 12 07:01 am Link Matthew Braney wrote: cliche'? Jun 05 12 07:15 am Link jonaswahlin wrote: exactly... move on... Jun 05 12 07:23 am Link Matthew Braney wrote: I agree. Most people will disagree with you because, well, no matter if they charge or not, they are basiclly GWC's. They like taking pictures of women with nice boobs because they love getting paid for doing so. Some of us are not such pervs. Jun 05 12 08:49 am Link I also don't shoot nudes. But sometimes I feel like not shooting nudes is costing me work. Jun 05 12 08:59 am Link Isaiah Brink wrote: I do not get sexual kicks during a photography session nor do I by looking back at my images, as I look at them through a critical & creative eye, I also find it small minded to make such a sweeping statement to say we're all pervs's if we photograph topless or nude women... Jun 05 12 09:03 am Link Isaiah Brink wrote: Similar assumptions are meaningless and highly disrespectful. Jun 05 12 09:33 am Link silverystars wrote: 1 SilveryStars! Jun 05 12 09:37 am Link Isaiah Brink wrote: The primary subject of my photography is not the gender to which I am attracted. Jun 05 12 09:44 am Link Isaiah Brink wrote: I'm normaly not a praying man, but if you're up there superman, we need your help right now! Jun 05 12 11:09 pm Link Rebel Photo wrote: Lord I hated that damn bowl of fruit, but somehow it's expected in any formal art education.. Jun 05 12 11:23 pm Link The more you shoot you'll find that there's nothing "wrong" with nudes. It just takes a LOT more talent and vision to shoot images that rise above the level of amateur porn. Not everyone gets to that level and not everyone wants to. You'll find a lot more happiness in an approach that understands: To each his own. Enjoy yourself. It is after all a Beautiful World. ;-) -JULIAN Jun 05 12 11:32 pm Link 1. Will somebody PLEEEZE define "porn" for me, and don't give that "i know it when I see it" crap. Only a judge or a lawyer could be stupid enough to come with that. 2. Are Clothes really necessary, on a warm day anyway? Sometimes the are, like with really fat chix; they should always wear plenty of them. 3. I make no apology for not having any "artistic nudes". Mine are done to make a pretty subject look even prettier and sexy and hot and desirable to please both her and whoever looks at her. Pretty women are just pleasing to look at, and the more provocative (not necessarily nude), the more pleasing they are to look at, for most people anyway. No Non PC stuff, just fact. 4. Define "necessary" regarding photography please. Depends on what you are trying to do. Jun 05 12 11:49 pm Link 
Photographer Posts: 106 Sarajevo, Federacija Bosna i Hercegovina, Bosnia and Herzegovina people shoot what they want, models modeling for what they want so there is no issue here. no one forcing anyone to anything, it is a free will world and freedom of choise. Jun 06 12 02:32 am Link You like to criticize other peoples work. You should post in the Critique forum and have your work criticized. Jun 06 12 02:46 am Link +1000 B R U N E S C I wrote: Jun 06 12 03:11 am Link "Does anyone agree?" Not me. Art isn't about being limited by the moral concerns of others. It's the opinion of prudes that lead to censorship. Do what you like. Continue to look down your nose at those of us that don't adhere to your puritanical concept of art. I'm sure it makes you feel righteous. Jun 06 12 10:17 am Link Well considering there's been an overwhelming amount of responses I'd like to say that I'm not trying to bash any models or photographers that do nudes. Sure, it's obvious that it's not my preference as a photographer, but I guess it boils down to context and composition to me that defines if a nude photo is artistic and tasteful or tastless.. and that really is up to the viewer Jun 06 12 10:33 am Link Ah, another great "Are you an artist, photographer or pornographer?" debate. Let me weigh in on this by first saying, Yes, I’m a pornographer, a photographer and an artist. It all depends who you ask. Mr. Braney may consider my work porn and of no artistic value and even go so far as to question my motives for taking nude photos but before he does he should read this http://www.texasgrace.com/what_is_boudoir.htm. Since, I’ve been shooting “nudes” professionally since 1999 I think I have enough experience to talk about this. If Mr. Braney wants to consider nude photography as having no “artistic integrity” or to “question a lot of their [assumed photographers and models] composition” that is his right to do so. This is America. Mr. Braney may have failed his stated mission and has, in my opinion, failed to understand beauty and artistic expression by questioning a lot of models and photographers composition or artistic integrity. Mr. Braney states on his profile, “MY GOAL AS A PHOTOGRAPHER IS TO FIND WHAT MAKES SOMEONE BEAUTIFUL AND CAPTURE THEM IN THEIR ESSENCE”. While this mission statement is all well and good it begs the question “Why does Mr. Braney have the authority to determine beauty or “..[composition or [ artistic] integrity. ]” for anyone other than himself and his underage dependents? Mr. Braney I shoot boudoir photography for a living. It is not my job as the photographer to tell my clients what is beautiful, sensual or sexual. My JOB is to capture what my client FEELS is beautiful, sensual or sexual regardless of what they chose to wear or not wear. While I personally will not shoot a “money shot”, “gratuitous genitalia”, “spreads”, “simulated intercourse or self gratification” I do not condone my client for wanting such a shot. That’s their personal definition of beauty. If, as you say in your profile, you are looking to transition into a career I would encourage you to work on the basic technical aspects of photography such as lighting and composition so as not to get your lights and yourself in the reflection of the glasses, unless that is what you were going for. To carefully study those images of the masters and try to determine what emotion the image is trying to provoke in the viewer. And finally don’t worry so much about what other models and photographers choose to shoot. Trying to control the morals and creativity of someone else is a battle you cannot win. No one is going to force you to shoot a naked man or woman so calm down it’s going to be ok. If someone mistakenly hires you to shoot them nude just politely decline and have them call me. I love Arizona! Jun 06 12 11:50 am Link Dark Shadows wrote: You have met most photographers? Wow. Jun 06 12 11:59 am Link |
