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Kelly Kooper
Posts: 1240
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Hi ladies, I need your help! Nude models - if you got an offer to appear as an extra in a popular TV series as a nude prostitute, would you do it? I don't know any more than that at this stage so that's all the information I have.... Your thoughts? Kelly
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Wysiwyg Photography
Posts: 6326
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
I know I"m not a model, but I have a question for you. Would you consider Julia Roberts less of an actress for doing Pretty Woman? I know she wasn't nude, but just like any shoot or movie... it's all acting. It's really about what YOU are comfortable with... Some models will pose as a Nazi for a photo shoot, others won't, others it depends on the content. "the reason for being". All I'm saying is, just because you play one on TV, (movies, ads, etc) doesn't mean you are actually a prostitute.
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Distorted Horizon Photo
Posts: 141
Denver, Colorado, US
Caustic Disco wrote: HELLZ YEAH! Um... Uh... er Never mind.
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Jirrupin
Posts: 1755
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia
ask yourself why wouldn't you do it? I would think any credit in a popular tv series is only going to benefit your acting CV. If it were some b grade soft core porn production then maybe it wouldn't look so good. But if you're in a mainstream network production it shows you've worked with respected industry professional crews and can presumably take direction. Whats more, once on set you have the opportunity to make contacts and expand your professional network.
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John Horwitz
Posts: 2920
Raleigh, North Carolina, US
let us know when the movie comes out - k?
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Julia Steel
Posts: 2474
Sylvania, Ohio, US
Distorted Horizon Photo wrote: Um... Uh... er Never mind. yes?
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Koryn
Posts: 39496
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Do you think every actor who has ever been in a genital Herpes medication commercial has genital Herpes?
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Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Wysiwyg Photography wrote: I know I"m not a model, but I have a question for you. Would you consider Julia Roberts less of an actress for doing Pretty Woman? I know she wasn't nude, but just like any shoot or movie... it's all acting. As I recall, she was. Or at least the character was. MM might call it "implied nude" but the character was nude. But, that just strengthens your point, if the OP is OK with being nude, and it's a respectable production, it should be an excellent opportunity.
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Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Caustic Disco wrote: HELLZ YEAH! Say; I have this (local access cable) network TV show, and I need an actress to play a nude prostitute. Interested?
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1st Stop Photo
Posts: 25
Dalzell, South Carolina, US
I don't think they allow nudity on poular TV series. Check this offer out.
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Julia Steel
Posts: 2474
Sylvania, Ohio, US
Art of the nude wrote: Say; I have this (local access cable) network TV show, and I need an actress to play a nude prostitute. Interested? yeah, how much you payin' me?
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CamiAnn
Posts: 794
Los Angeles, California, US
Wysiwyg Photography wrote: I know I"m not a model, but I have a question for you. Would you consider Julia Roberts less of an actress for doing Pretty Woman? I know she wasn't nude, but just like any shoot or movie... it's all acting. It's really about what YOU are comfortable with... Some models will pose as a Nazi for a photo shoot, others won't, others it depends on the content. "the reason for being". All I'm saying is, just because you play one on TV, (movies, ads, etc) doesn't mean you are actually a prostitute. How did the role come about to you? It should have come from the casting director or an agent if you have one, or someone of that nature... Also, FYI, Julia Roberts was the principal actress for that role and she used a body double for all of the closeups you see of "her" body. But I digress...my point is that she got paid a HECK of a lot more money for that role than someone will as an "extra"...unless you get a speaking role so you can become SAG eligible, it wouldn't be worth it if you are striving to become a SAG actress. That being said, it is all about what you are comfortable with and what your goals are. I do nude modeling and I get paid unless it is a photographer who will benefit me in some way, but I'm not sure I would do a nude role for any TV program unless they were paying me quite a bit. I have been an extra on the big screen and its a lot of hard work and long hours for little pay and chances are you will not be "discovered" that way, nude or not, unless you have a lot of time to devote to doing a ton of extra work and even then its tough. I know a lot of my friends are in L.A. and New Mexico (yes they film a lot of movies there) doing extra work and they have even gotten bit speaking parts and its worth it to them, so ask yourself if it would really be worth it to you if you aren't really going to get much out of it...and also, bear in mind that a lot of extra work ends up on the cutting room floor. Also, as an extra, its tough even talking to anyone important. They don't allow you to even eat with the rest of the real cast...and like some people pointed out, the don't really allow nudithy on television unless its HBO or a cable series...so I would check it out carefully before just jumping for it. Just my 2 cents.
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Lynn Elizabeth
Posts: 1336
Palm Beach, Florida, US
Yes. It's definitely a career booster.
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Kelly Kooper
Posts: 1240
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Oh I know, you all make valid points My concern is more with what the people in my personal life would think. I don't have a problem with it but I never have. I guess what I'm really asking is how many of you wouldn't do something like this because you knew your family would object. It's a very well known TV series with over a million viewers in its last series on one of the main channels. There's nothing dodgy about it, it's through a well reputed agency.
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Kelly Kooper
Posts: 1240
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
1st Stop Photo wrote: I don't think they allow nudity on poular TV series. Check this offer out. They do on this one, it has an M15+ rating - I've seen previous series
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Calli Pygian
Posts: 8101
Atlanta, Georgia, US
For me personally, I guess it would depend on how much I wanted to be on the show, how much tv time I'm likely to get, how much I'll get paid, etc. I don't think that it is a likely role to further my career if I was trying to be an actress, and I doubt it would be very profitable. I don't think I would do it, because it seems like little gain for appearing nude on tv. It's a big change to go from being a nude model under an alias with the bulk of my photos being on MM where most family members/coworkers/random acquaintances aren't likely to come across them, as opposed to being nude on a popular tv show where all of those people (depending on whether they have cable) are much more likely to come across it. If I were already an established actress, I would have no issue with nudity (provided it makes sense in the scene and is not gratuitous), but for just a part as an extra, I personally wouldn't find it worthwhile. Notice, however, that I have said this is just for me. You may feel differently, and if you're really interested in doing it, then just give it the proper consideration, and if you still want to do it, go for it.
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Kelly Kooper
Posts: 1240
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
CamiAnn wrote: Julia Roberts was the principal actress for that role and she used a body double for all of the closeups you see of "her" body. My point is that she got paid a HECK of a lot more money for that role than someone will as an "extra"...unless you get a speaking role so you can become SAG eligible, it wouldn't be worth it if you are striving to become a SAG actress. That being said, it is all about what you are comfortable with and what your goals are. I do nude modeling and I get paid unless it is a photographer who will benefit me in some way, but I'm not sure I would do a nude role for any TV program unless they were paying me quite a bit. I have been an extra on the big screen and its a lot of hard work and long hours for little pay and chances are you will not be "discovered" that way, nude or not, unless you have a lot of time to devote to doing a ton of extra work and even then its tough. I know a lot of my friends are in L.A. doing extra work and they have even gotten bit speaking parts and its worth it to them, so ask yourself if it would really be worth it to you if you aren't really going to get much out of it...and also, bear in mind that a lot of extra work ends up on the cutting room floor. Just my 2 cents. Thanks Cami Ann, I appreciate your comments. I'll definitely consider what you've said and do some more investigating x
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Lynn Elizabeth
Posts: 1336
Palm Beach, Florida, US
Kelly Kooper wrote: Oh I know, you all make valid points My concern is more with what the people in my personal life would think. I don't have a problem with it but I never have. I guess what I'm really asking is how many of you wouldn't do something like this because you knew your family would object. It's a very well known TV series with over a million viewers in its last series on one of the main channels. There's nothing dodgy about it, it's through a well reputed agency. I think I've just talked myself into it. You have to do what's best for you. If your family and friends support you they will understand. It's a character in a tv show. You aren't an actual prostitute, well at least it doesn't sound like you are.
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Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Art of the nude wrote: Say; I have this (local access cable) network TV show, and I need an actress to play a nude prostitute. Interested? Caustic Disco wrote: yeah, how much you payin' me? It's "For the exposure", although we can offer cookies and lemonade on set.
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CamiAnn
Posts: 794
Los Angeles, California, US
Kelly Kooper wrote: Thanks Cami Ann, I appreciate your comments. I'll definitely consider what you've said and do some more investigating x You're very welcome. In the end its your decision and you have to decide for yourself if it would be worth your time, effort and reputation and for whatever pay they are offering.
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Julia Steel
Posts: 2474
Sylvania, Ohio, US
Art of the nude wrote: Art of the nude wrote: Say; I have this (local access cable) network TV show, and I need an actress to play a nude prostitute. Interested? It's "For the exposure", although we can offer cookies and lemonade on set. HAHAHAHA!!! nice try homie!!
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Kelly Kooper
Posts: 1240
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Calli Pygian wrote: For me personally, I guess it would depend on how much I wanted to be on the show, how much tv time I'm likely to get, how much I'll get paid, etc. I don't think that it is a likely role to further my career if I was trying to be an actress, and I doubt it would be very profitable. I don't think I would do it, because it seems like little gain for appearing nude on tv. It's a big change to go from being a nude model under an alias with the bulk of my photos being on MM where most family members/coworkers/random acquaintances aren't likely to come across them, as opposed to being nude on a popular tv show where all of those people (depending on whether they have cable) are much more likely to come across it. If I were already an established actress, I would have no issue with nudity (provided it makes sense in the scene and is not gratuitous), but for just a part as an extra, I personally wouldn't find it worthwhile. Notice, however, that I have said this is just for me. You may feel differently, and if you're really interested in doing it, then just give it the proper consideration, and if you still want to do it, go for it. Calli, I think that's exactly why I'm hesitating. I've been doing nude modelling for the past 6 years through the modelling channels so it hasn't really come up in my personal life. This would be my first official TV role and I'm concerned about my first official role being a nude role as acting is definitely something I'd like to get into more seriously.
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Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
1st Stop Photo wrote: I don't think they allow nudity on poular TV series. Check this offer out. The OP is in Australia, that may be different, although it's hard to say. Last I heard small breasted women weren't allowed to do nudity in Australia at all (child pornography, and I have no idea whether the OP is "small breasted", it's a general comment.)
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New Kidd Imagery
Posts: 1909
South Salt Lake, Utah, US
Caustic Disco wrote: yeah, how much you payin' me? HAHAHA ROFL LOL.... .. .. Well, anyway... it was a good laugh though.. thanks for that At least the OP has examples of what she looks like nude so she is a prime candidate for the gig
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V Laroche
Posts: 2746
Khowmeyn, Markazī, Iran
No. I'm a model, not an actress. If I were an actress, I would be concerned with how the character was presented, beyond her profession.
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Kelly Kooper
Posts: 1240
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Art of the nude wrote: The OP is in Australia, that may be different, although it's hard to say. Last I heard small breasted women weren't allowed to do nudity in Australia at all (child pornography, and I have no idea whether the OP is "small breasted", it's a general comment.) I'm a D cup Definitely not small breasted. This TV series is a hard hitting crime show. It's been on TV for the past 4 years and involves violence, nudity and sex.
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The Grace Gabbana
Posts: 358
Santa Rosa, California, US
Kelly Kooper wrote: Hi ladies, I need your help! Nude models - if you got an offer to appear as an extra in a popular TV series as a nude prostitute, would you do it? I don't know any more than that at this stage so that's all the information I have.... Your thoughts? Kelly I'm not a nude model, and I'm not sure why you would pose this question to nude models. But I am an actress and a model. As an actress, I believe my purpose is to play any character, emote any feeling, and convey these things to the best of my ability, no matter what the role is. You must detach your self from the character you are playing, and yet use your self to make the character your own. If you are not able to see the distinction between playing the role of a prostitute and actually being one, or if you're not ready to hear negative feedback about your career decisions, then this may not be for you. Many people will not understand this distinction, and accuse you of promoting prostitution and the like. I have played the role of an escort on CSI: Las Vegas, however, I was not nude. I do not regret it, and I am no ashamed of it. It is just one of many roles I have played; from cheerleader to heavy metal punk. After the episode of CSI was aired, I did receive an unusually large amount of hate mail from fundamentalist Christians, who used the name of Christ to justify vicious judgements and condescending statements. Hope this helps. It would be nice if my experience could help someone else. G
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Julia Steel
Posts: 2474
Sylvania, Ohio, US
New Kidd Imagery wrote: HAHAHA ROFL LOL.... .. .. Well, anyway... it was a good laugh though.. thanks for that At least the OP has examples of what she looks like nude so she is a prime candidate for the gig you're welcome for the laugh! didn't think it was that funny but i love to amuse!
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Kelly Kooper
Posts: 1240
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
The Grace Gabbana wrote: I'm not a nude model, and I'm not sure why you would pose this question to nude models. But I am an actress and a model. As an actress, I believe my purpose is to play any character, emote any feeling, and convey these things to the best of my ability, no matter what the role is. You must detach your self from the character you are playing, and yet use your self to make the character your own. If you are not able to see the distinction between playing the role of a prostitute and actually being one, or if you're not ready to hear negative feedback about your career decisions, then this may not be for you. Many people will not understand this distinction, and accuse you of promoting prostitution and the like. I have played the role of an escort on CSI: Las Vegas, however, I was not nude. I do not regret it, and I am no ashamed of it. It is just one of many roles I have played; from cheerleader to heavy metal punk. After the episode of CSI was aired, I did receive an unusually large amount of hate mail from fundamentalist Christians, who used the name of Christ to justify vicious judgements and condescending statements. Hope this helps. It would be nice if my experience could help someone else. G I'm grateful for any advice, especially from an experienced actress Can I ask if you would do this role, if it were offered to you?
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Jirrupin
Posts: 1755
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia
1st Stop Photo wrote: I don't think they allow nudity on poular TV series. Check this offer out. too funny!! you might be surprised what goes to air prime time outside of the 'Land of the (not so) free'. So hard not to laugh at American prime time tv where even lips are pixelated when someone swears. Google "Number 96" aussie tv even back in the seventies featured full frontal nudity and gay sexual relationships in popular soaps.
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Wysiwyg Photography
Posts: 6326
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
CamiAnn wrote: How did the role come about to you? It should have come from the casting director or an agent if you have one, or someone of that nature... Also, FYI, Julia Roberts was the principal actress for that role and she used a body double for all of the closeups you see of "her" body. But I digress...my point is that she got paid a HECK of a lot more money for that role than someone will as an "extra"...unless you get a speaking role so you can become SAG eligible, it wouldn't be worth it if you are striving to become a SAG actress. That being said, it is all about what you are comfortable with and what your goals are. I do nude modeling and I get paid unless it is a photographer who will benefit me in some way, but I'm not sure I would do a nude role for any TV program unless they were paying me quite a bit. I have been an extra on the big screen and its a lot of hard work and long hours for little pay and chances are you will not be "discovered" that way, nude or not, unless you have a lot of time to devote to doing a ton of extra work and even then its tough. I know a lot of my friends are in L.A. and New Mexico (yes they film a lot of movies there) doing extra work and they have even gotten bit speaking parts and its worth it to them, so ask yourself if it would really be worth it to you if you aren't really going to get much out of it...and also, bear in mind that a lot of extra work ends up on the cutting room floor. Also, as an extra, its tough even talking to anyone important. They don't allow you to even eat with the rest of the real cast...and like some people pointed out, the don't really allow nudithy on television unless its HBO or a cable series...so I would check it out carefully before just jumping for it. Just my 2 cents. Totally missed my point of my post. Whether you are an extra or not.. you think people are going to differentiate between body doubles and real skin in the real world? If the world thinks you are naked, reality has very little to do with it... Like Blue Lagoon, The "nudity" was a body double, but people to this day still think Brooke Shields was nude in that film. All I'm saying Why is it OK for a main actress to play the roll of a prostitute but not an extra? (serious question) Just saying people do not look down on Julia Roberts for taking the part of playing a prostitute in Pretty Woman, Why would they look down on an actress for taking some "side gig/no lines" part. Also, Supply and Demand. If the OP turns it down, another will take her place just as easily... is she so well known and wanted as an actress that she can negotiate a wage for the part? I'm not trying to convince the OP to take the part.. I"m just saying, if she doesn't take it, someone else will as there will be no negotiation, it will be a "take it or leave it" situation. I can totally understand why someone might turn it down, but it will be an easy part to fill. I constantly cast for NUDE shoots at $40/hr o $60/hr based on concept and sometimes I get models saying "I'd be interested if it paid more, so when you cannot find someone, give me a call"... and I end up with 15 to 20 models interested in my casting. Anyway, just because you aren't interested, doesn't mean someone else will be AND be of equal or better quality. ETA: Also the OP is from Australia, they show boobs on regular TV.
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Jirrupin
Posts: 1755
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia
Kelly Kooper wrote: This would be my first official TV role and I'm concerned about my first official role being a nude role as acting is definitely something I'd like to get into more seriously. I would think nudity in Aussie TV is a non issue, if you look at the previous series of underbelly the lead actress had more nudey time than all the background strippers and hookers combined. You might not get cast in the next Hi5 lineup, but certainly not taking yourself out of the running for the majority of network drama.
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Distorted Horizon Photo
Posts: 141
Denver, Colorado, US
Caustic Disco wrote: yes? I was just going to say, "But you don't do nudes".. but then I thought, 'Never Mind".
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Julia Steel
Posts: 2474
Sylvania, Ohio, US
Distorted Horizon Photo wrote: I was just going to say, "But you don't do nudes".. but then I thought, 'Never Mind". lol!!! if someone actually was interested in ME being nude, looking as i do, and were willing to pay me, and i'd be in a popular tv show, i'd say hell yeah. sounds fun!
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GER Photography
Posts: 8463
Imperial, California, US
1st Stop Photo wrote: I don't think they allow nudity on poular TV series. Check this offer out. There's full nudity all over Showtime, HBO, Cinemax... Plus it's a good way for her to get her SAG, AFTRA...?? Cards
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Wysiwyg Photography
Posts: 6326
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
Caustic Disco wrote: lol!!! if someone actually was interested in ME being nude, looking as i do, and were willing to pay me, and i'd be in a popular tv show, i'd say hell yeah. sounds fun! The funny thing is... TV/Movie auditions are a bit different in the fact that you actually don't have to "prove yourself". Just show up... probably have a bikini shot with you and you are good to go. I personally don't understand why they do it that way... I like to know what I"m "buying" before I commit... TV/Movies seem to be different for some reason.
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CamiAnn
Posts: 794
Los Angeles, California, US
Wysiwyg Photography wrote: Totally missed my point of my post. Whether you are an extra or not.. you think people are going to differentiate between body doubles and real skin in the real world? If the world thinks you are naked, reality has very little to do with it... Like Blue Lagoon, The "nudity" was a body double, but people to this day still think Brooke Shields was nude in that film. All I'm saying Why is it OK for a main actress to play the roll of a prostitute but not an extra? (serious question) Just saying people do not look down on Julia Roberts for taking the part of playing a prostitute in Pretty Woman, Why would they look down on an actress for taking some "side gig/no lines" part. Also, Supply and Demand. If the OP turns it down, another will take her place just as easily... is she so well known and wanted as an actress that she can negotiate a wage for the part? I'm not trying to convince the OP to take the part.. I"m just saying, if she doesn't take it, someone else will as there will be no negotiation, it will be a "take it or leave it" situation. I can totally understand why someone might turn it down, but it will be an easy part to fill. I constantly cast for NUDE shoots at $40/hr o $60/hr based on concept and sometimes I get models saying "I'd be interested if it paid more, so when you cannot find someone, give me a call"... and I end up with 15 to 20 models interested in my casting. Anyway, just because you aren't interested, doesn't mean someone else will be AND be of equal or better quality. ETA: Also the OP is from Australia, they show boobs on regular TV. I get what you are saying...but just knowing what I do about nudity in the states...no...Julia Roberts was not looked down upon for playing a prostitute in that movie...body double or not...the body double did get paid pretty well for doing that...one of my good friends knows her....but Julia, herself, has never done a real "nude" role, has she? Although many well-known and Oscar winning actresses do nude roles and are admired for it, they usually wait until they have established themselves in the acting world before taking on these roles...not always, but women like Halle Barry (nude in Monster Ball and won the Oscar) Jody Foster (nude in several movies and another Oscar winner), etc. waited to do nudity until they were doing major roles...however, being that the OP is from Australia where nudity is more accepted it may be different. All I was saying is that its up to her whether its worth her time, effort and probably very little pay (if its the same pay as non-SAG actors in the US) and that she will be seen by millions of viewers and its not a photo on MM. Just things to consider...at least for me. Personally, I would make sure its well worth my time and effort and is a show that is well respected. But you probably won't be "discovered" because of it...at least here in the states...I admit I don't know Australian television, so ultimately its her decision...I just wanted to give her some information to consider...that's all. p.s. If in it for a SAG card...here is some information about that: "The simplest way is the most difficult: Land a principle role on a union television show or film. Just about any speaking part will do. The problem of course is that most casting directors will select talent from actors who already belong to the union. This doesn't make it impossible, but it certainly makes it extremely unlikely. (Unless you have an uncle who is a big-shot Hollywood producer. In which case, why are you reading this, go to your uncle's mansion and ask to star in his next film.) Extra Work: Working as an extra (or "background artist") is not the most spectacular end of the thespian's spectrum. However, it does provide a slight chance of getting into the Screen Actor's Guild. The Screen Actor's Guild specifies that all union productions must hire a certain amount of SAG Members as background actors. For example, during a film shoot, a union production must hire at least 50 SAG members as background. What happens if a only 49 SAG members show up? That means one lucky non-union actor will receive a voucher. They will be paid union scale for that day. Best of all, if a non-union actor earns three vouchers, they are then qualified to join the Screen Actors Guild. I've known some people who have worked as extras for years, and have yet to receive a single voucher." Maybe its important to the OP, maybe its not...again, ultimately its up to her and what her goals are.
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AJ_In_Atlanta
Posts: 13053
Atlanta, Georgia, US
1st Stop Photo wrote: I don't think they allow nudity on poular TV series. Check this offer out. Wrong country mate And the same for CamiAnn
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