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Why do so many models what latex / gothic shots?
I see so few latex / gothic shots etc. commercially used. The only places I see them on a regular basis are low end magazines. So why do so many models clambour to get them? It just seems hugely disproportionate for the amount of work out there in that arena. Because if I'm ever sending models over to a client for approval I never send those kind of shots, because its just so far from what the client wants. I get all sorts of different requests from clients for all sorts of different models, but no one ever gets close to that kind of look. Paul. www.photographybyriddell.co.uk Sep 25 12 01:47 am Link For fun. They look cool. .... There is a market for them. Alt models are highly sought after. Maybe it is just not the market you are working in. And not all of them are published only in low end magazines, that's your assumption. Sep 25 12 01:54 am Link In the surreal world of MM, anything can happen. Actually, there are models on MM who make a good living out of the place by doing things that wouldn't attract any interest in the real world. Good luck to them and their business acumen. Sep 25 12 02:07 am Link Have to agree that a lot of the demand is on the model side of things. Latex makes people look good and also badass. Those kind of shoots tend yo be corful. A LOT of websites feature that kind of content. Non traditional models can rock that just fine when catalogue work wouldn't look so hot. It is fun to dress different than normal, to be stylized as crazy as one can imagine. Dont know if any of these answers address the business end of the OP but that is the rationale behind it. Sep 25 12 02:08 am Link Photography by Riddell wrote: Perhaps this says more about you choice of reading material than it does about the models. Sep 25 12 02:10 am Link Winnie L wrote: This, but not only for fun. Latex is great content for pay sites and selling prints. And I don't know about low end magazines... I can go to Barnes and Noble and pick up a handful of magazines that have latex in them. Sep 25 12 02:14 am Link Photography by Riddell wrote: Seems they are pretty popular.. Sep 25 12 02:19 am Link Mischa Marie wrote: And you gotta admit it is fun, just got to add that in Sep 25 12 02:21 am Link Winnie L wrote: Totally fun Sep 25 12 02:53 am Link When I first started modeling I really, really wanted to do Japanese gothic lolita, gothic Victorian, and latex modeling. The "high fashion" looking stuff, not the punk/Hot Topic stuff. I wanted to do it simply because I thought it looked gorgeous. Latex in particular looked very sleek, erotic, and aristocratic in a more modern way (obviously I had a specific style in mind). Plus, I thought I could pull off all three styles pretty well given my "look." Unfortunately, I had neither the funds to purchase the wardrobe myself nor the connections to get it otherwise, so aside from one latex shoot that I never really got photos from, I have not been able to do any of it. I would still shoot it if ever given the chance and for basically the same reasons. I like the look and I think I could rock it. ^_~ Sep 25 12 09:19 am Link Jon LiIIey wrote: +1 Sep 25 12 09:21 am Link Mischa Marie wrote: Todally. Sep 25 12 09:23 am Link Another commercial-photography messiah here to tell us peons about the "real world" and "the market" because besides mainstream commercial photography, what else is there? Why would someone want something he does not want?!?! Sep 25 12 09:38 am Link Sep 25 12 09:43 am Link V Laroche wrote: Someday some of these people are going to have to learn that people have different motives for doing things. I shoot fetish because I like it. It's as simple as that and doesn't have to have any economic motive. Sep 25 12 09:44 am Link Winnie L wrote: +1 Sep 25 12 09:45 am Link Firstly as many others have said, it looks freaking cool. Also: It's a lot easier (from what I've heard and seen) to become "successful" as an alt or fetish model. The community is smaller,than let's say fashion, and you can also do it if you have tattoos, piercings, wacky hair, are short/voluptuous, pretty much anyone who is likable and fun can do it (assuming they look good on camera of course! ) Hope I helped a little! Sep 25 12 09:48 am Link Rabid Girls, Bizarre, Marquis, Skin Two... just to name a few, are nowhere near "low end" and feature almost exclusively latex/fetish and "goth" (which I'm assuming you mean "alt") shoots. Sep 25 12 11:26 am Link V Laroche wrote: You mean all people aren't just like me?! Sep 25 12 11:28 am Link Winnie L wrote: Well, how come you're ain't in any Miss W . . . Sep 25 12 11:39 am Link Winnie L wrote: Hardly "highly" sought after Sep 25 12 11:43 am Link Latex can be very chic and classy.... ;>) Sep 25 12 11:57 am Link Goth and alternative seems to be much more lenient on model measurements... I find that most models who seek this kind of work simply don't have the right measurements for mainstream. Sep 25 12 12:07 pm Link Winnie L wrote: This. Sep 25 12 01:11 pm Link DAN CRUIKSHANK wrote: I wouldn't agree with that statement. I've shot 5' tall curvy models an 5' 10" slender agency models in latex. They all look great because latex flatters many body types. Sep 25 12 01:15 pm Link Huh. I happen to love latex. I've shot it in many forms, fetish, fashion, glamour, cosplay, etc. I don't know about the "low end magazines" either, Bizzare, Skin II, Gothic Beauty, Dark Beauty, Von Guttenberg, they are anything but "LOW END". P.S. Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_West Sep 25 12 01:51 pm Link i don't really like mainstream fashions, glamourgoth is cuter and more fun. and modeling isn't my job so i'm more free to do what i want. i'm pretty sure plenty of models make a decent living modeling those kinds of fashions though. Sep 25 12 01:55 pm Link Marquis is not " Low End" and perfect (famous) fashion models are in Marquis magazine. I think there is a big difference between " tacky" pictures on the internet and some of the perfect high quality Latex photography. Models of all categories mostly love the latex stuff because it shows your body, it is luxurious and because of the different angle of photography, mostly very creative and daring without being nude. Sep 25 12 10:23 pm Link sospix wrote: I guess the market for them in my area is not that lucrative ... Experimental, yes. Financially, not very stable. Sep 25 12 10:31 pm Link Sep 25 12 10:39 pm Link Tim Roper wrote: Thanks you! Sep 25 12 10:44 pm Link Not all aesthetics appeal to everyone. I see people shoot a lot of styles I don't appreciate. A lot of commercial/lifestyle photography isn't nearly as interesting to me as some of the latex images I've seen. If it won't help your book, don't shoot it. Sep 25 12 11:00 pm Link DAN CRUIKSHANK wrote: Sep 25 12 11:30 pm Link Photography by Riddell wrote: This image has been published in three magazines. One comic magazine and the other two were photography magazines. None of the three I would consider "low end" Sep 25 12 11:52 pm Link Thanks for your replies all. There of course will always be exceptions. Virtually every photo has a market, even if it the most smallest of markets. And maybe defining some of the magazines low end is a mistake, but the rates at most of these magazines are definetly low end. Sep 26 12 01:32 am Link Latex is just a material. How you design it and style it are all together different aspects. I have shot a decent amount of latex and its so cool to light. The models I have shot in latex have done it for fun, some just to get something different in their portfolio and show they have a wider range of looks. The good ones do make good coin too. Sep 26 12 01:46 am Link I totally agree. But maybe thats for all categories of modeling the conclusion... ? It is all about quality.... Sep 26 12 01:48 am Link Latex and Gothic here in the UK is very popular especially club wear in the major cities a lot of the work we do for catalogues on the alternative side are always sending items like this for the models to shoot in. With designers like Abigail Greydanus making Latex very trendy it will only get better and more popular. Sep 26 12 02:01 am Link ...... and for anybody who feels good in it.......... Sep 26 12 02:04 am Link model-maria wrote: You are right about that it applies to all categories, it is just that I find when someone mentions latex them immediately think fetish. A previous post had one of Karlie Kloss and she looks great and its more fashion. I just don't like the immediate stereotyping when one hears the word latex. Oh well. Sep 26 12 02:11 am Link |