amb300 wrote:
I actually turned down a girl on my college volleyball team because she asked to hang out the same day Borderlands 2 came out.

"I was offered human interaction, but there were pixels."

Or:

"I am cool and edgy because I choose not to connect with people.  Also, I assume this forum assigns status to college volleyball players."

tonyfromsyracuse wrote:
the dating situation is very dismal for women.
feel sorry for them. not men.with women... their looks fade really fast and they start running out of options. and western culture is very youth craving.
so women get despondant when their looks fall, and their men cheat on them.
its just what guys do. all of them. the ones that arent...arent good looking.
chris rock is correct when he says, a man is only as faithful as his options.

if a hot young woman hits on a guy married to some old 40 year old, the man is going to cheat.

the point I am making is that womens reign of terror is a short one. their days of calling the shots, turns to one of sorrow,and daytime tv shows and plastic surgery and a drinking problem.

but it isnt all bad cause the men arent in the same boat. men can be in their 50's and still banging secretarys and flight attendants.because western culture is rightfully more forgiving of men as compared to old women from mid 30's onwards. but the good news for women is they can channel this dissapointment into being good mothers who are there for their children.

Sexist much?

Koryn Locke wrote:
Sexist much?

I feel sorry for anyone that thinks that way, a good relationship must seem like a myth people tell each other to stave away the insecurity and loneliness that his cognitive dissonance is telling him everyone must also feel so he doesn't have to make any difficult changes to be worthwhile.

amb300 wrote:

The first. As far as human interaction goes, most games I play are online, with other people. In its defense, it is one of the best games I've ever played, and I have been PC gaming since 1988. For the second part, she was really hot. I also have had difficulty talking to women my whole life, I'm getting over it though.

You have difficulty talking to women?
WHAT

my_other_profile wrote:

"I was offered human interaction, but there were pixels."

Or:

"I am cool and edgy because I choose not to connect with people.  Also, I assume this forum assigns status to college volleyball players."

For the record, college volleyball players can be really hot. Something about those shorts.

amb300 wrote:

Like asking them out, I get nervous and shy. I've been on 2 dates, and I'm 33. I also can't tell if a woman is flirting with me, or how I should respond.

I'm *shocked*

Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
Compensating To Get Good Dates.

I was wondering. If a guy had above average looks, had a good paying job, had a nice place of his own, and was charming, how much of an asshole would he need to be to nearly always get rejected? Examples?

... and here I thought this was another "escort" thread...

                                                                                                 

Koryn Locke wrote:
Sexist much?

Damianne wrote:
This whole thread feels like "but really, isn't it that people should have fewer needs in a partner, and I'm actually alright for not being useful to anyone?"

Haha, yeh.

amb300 wrote:

Like asking them out, I get nervous and shy. I've been on 2 dates, and I'm 33. I also can't tell if a woman is flirting with me, or how I should respond.

You can just tell her you find her attractive, verbally, and see how she responds. That's the only way I can figure out any subtleties from people. "Flirting" goes right over my head.

The person I'm seeing now, whom I seem to connect with really well, for the most part -- we were drinking beer and talking about something, and I just randomly (and impulsively) said, "Hey, would you like to have sex with me?"

His initial response was, "Umm...what?" so I repeated myself, after which he said, "Yes, I would."

We paid the bar bill and went home, and have spent a considerable amount of time together over the past month, and a half. Easy peasy. Any additional negotiation is just a waste of my time, and annoying.

Two Pears Studio wrote:
Everything you want is on the other side of fear.

Unfortunately, many of the things I want are on the other side if fear of robbing a bank.

Brooks Ayola wrote:

Unfortunately, many of the things I want are on the other side if fear of robbing a bank.

making lots of money is not hard.

tonyfromsyracuse wrote:
the dating situation is very dismal for women.
feel sorry for them. not men.with women... their looks fade really fast and they start running out of options. and western culture is very youth craving.
so women get despondant when their looks fall, and their men cheat on them.
its just what guys do. all of them. the ones that arent...arent good looking.
chris rock is correct when he says, a man is only as faithful as his options.

if a hot young woman hits on a guy married to some old 40 year old, the man is going to cheat.

the point I am making is that womens reign of terror is a short one. their days of calling the shots, turns to one of sorrow,and daytime tv shows and plastic surgery and a drinking problem.

but it isnt all bad cause the men arent in the same boat. men can be in their 50's and still banging secretarys and flight attendants.because western culture is rightfully more forgiving of men as compared to old women from mid 30's onwards. but the good news for women is they can channel this dissapointment into being good mothers who are there for their children.

I seriously cringe when I see shit like this.....cringe that woman will lump men together like Neanderthals/Cro-Magnon after reading this kind of drivel.
*goes back to MY part of the cave*

tonyfromsyracuse wrote:
the dating situation is very dismal for women.
feel sorry for them. not men.with women... their looks fade really fast and they start running out of options. and western culture is very youth craving.
so women get despondant when their looks fall, and their men cheat on them.
its just what guys do. all of them. the ones that arent...arent good looking.
chris rock is correct when he says, a man is only as faithful as his options.

if a hot young woman hits on a guy married to some old 40 year old, the man is going to cheat.

the point I am making is that womens reign of terror is a short one. their days of calling the shots, turns to one of sorrow,and daytime tv shows and plastic surgery and a drinking problem.

but it isnt all bad cause the men arent in the same boat. men can be in their 50's and still banging secretarys and flight attendants.because western culture is rightfully more forgiving of men as compared to old women from mid 30's onwards. but the good news for women is they can channel this dissapointment into being good mothers who are there for their children.

Cherrystone wrote:
I seriously cringe when I see shit like this.....cringe that woman will lump men together like Neanderthals/Cro-Magnon after reading this kind of drivel.
*goes back to MY part of the cave*

Did he just call mid 30's + OLD for a woman?

Death of Field wrote:
Did he just call mid 30's + OLD for a woman?

For Neanderthals and Cro Magnons, thirty-plus was absolutely ancient.

Mad Hatter Imagery wrote:
I was wondering. If a guy had above average looks, had a good paying job, had a nice place of his own, and was charming, how much of an asshole would he need to be to nearly always get rejected? Examples?

Likewise what if a guy had below average looks, had a low paying job, didn't have his own place, and wasn't particularly charming however not offensive, how amazing would he need to be otherwise to get nearly any girl he sets out to date? Examples?


I'd like to apply the same questions to men commenting on women, but I don't think most guys care if a woman is a wattress of an astrophysicist.

I decided to skip the drama and trollololing and address the OP.

Point 1:
Many women respond very strongly to "the asshole".  Obviously, there are different levels of assholery.  "Asshole" is pretty close to "cocky" which is just a step away from "confident".  Depending on the woman, and a single word, those three adjectives are interchangeable for any given situation.  Many women also choose a submissive role and look for a dominant man to be attracted to.  The disappointing truth is that for all of our humanity, we're still just animals and tens of thousands of years of nature are still hard wired into our brains for what we're attracted to.

So, to answer your question, if the man is good looking, charming, and perceived to be a provider, being an "asshole" actually plays to his favor.  Let's take the character of Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark. Compete assholes, but women would line up to offer themselves to those pretend people. 

The wildcard there is that many women ALSO want to "fix" the guy, or be "the one" who breaks through that asshole exterior to the creamy nougat center.

Point 2:
The "nice guy" who isn't all that attractive, charming and can't offer much will never be more than someone to get the Chemistry notes from or the guy who will help the girl move or pick her up from the airport after she was visiting the "asshole" at his summer vacation place in Cabo.

Certainly, there are exceptions, as there is someone for everyone in this crazy world.  But by and large, if you're not beautiful, hilarious, inspiring, interesting, or providing, you're going to be spending most Saturday nights at home watching Netflix.

Point 3:
It's very short sighted of you to think that most men don't care about a woman beyond her looks.  I'll confess that it's what gets her attention from most men, but most women would tell you it's mostly from men they wished didn't give them that attention.  Attractive women, while professing that they do not, KNOW they're attractive and know how they affect those around them, men AND women. 

Get a ridiculously hot friend and go to the mall with them.  Follow her about 10 paces behind and observe how men and women interact with her.  You might either laugh your butt off or be appalled by the behavior of most people.


So.  I don't really know what this thread is about.  Being nice is important.  It will help you sleep at night.  Being attractive is important, too, but it's certainly not everything.  In life, everyone wants something.  Be what that other person wants, and the other stuff is less important up front.

Orca Bay Images wrote:

For Neanderthals and Cro Magnons, thirty-plus was absolutely ancient.

A-M-P wrote:
I don't care about looks, job or assets as long as they are a nice genuine person and our personalities were compatible.

EJECT! EJECT! EJECT! YOU DO NOT FIT THE ALGORITHM! YOU DO NOT COMPUTE!

Jules NYC wrote:
I will say this...

No matter how intelligent, talented, a personality to die for...

In the end, speaking as a woman because I am -
If a man is not physically attracted to you as in 'Wow', 'gorgeous', 'beautiful', his eye will always wander.

That is the man you sit on a park bench with and look at the purty women as they run by...

Death of Field wrote:
That is the man you sit on a park bench with and look at the purty women as they run by...

No thanks:)
Even if I was 90, I don't want to be married to Frank Barrone.

Ever see 'The Notebook'?

Oh that's right, men like that don't exist.


PS, I'm the one running now

Brooks Ayola wrote:
Unfortunately, many of the things I want are on the other side if fear of robbing a bank.

Two Pears Studio wrote:
making lots of money is not hard.

You billionaires are ALL THE SAME!

I'll remember not to make any jokes around you in the future.