Any chance we can delete this thread?

Don't think that, in the long run, it benefits anyone.

And it's continents away from the kind of timeless images I have grown to expect from great photographers.

It's like the National Enquirer with references.

RBD

As an aside... it's all because we don't have a good war going.

To argue about.

And Weber?

It's not like his sexuality is breaking news.

Some strapping youngster is victimized by a 70 year old?

Think it's easier for women--the alleged "weaker sex"--to make credible accusations?

Shame on you, MM Edu!

Emily Nussbaum, writing in The New Yorker, referred to it as "Grand Sexual-Harassment Reckoning".

LOL.

Some of the comments you made a couple posts back are spot on, and others not so much. I won't say what's what, because I honestly don't know what's a briggable offense anymore ... And because I can't be bothered to start what I know will be a argument. Feel free to PM though ... I promise I'll be nice. We probably agree more than you think.

One thing I will say publicly is that I think you're too close to understand what's going on. You may have known about Weber, and as someone with interest but no connections, I understood he was a bit fishy, but didn't know the scope. Almost all of us knew about TR ... Because he was a big enough name that we all knew about him in general - here in a photo forum, where we're interested in photographers.

I'll wager that film buffs knew (or suspected) Weinstein before we did, and stand-up comics knew (or suspected) about Cosby before Buress outed him. The same can be said for Capital Hill interns.  But we may not be part of those groups.

All of these accusations aren't a big deal just because of who is named - it's because they come from so many different places, and so many different kinds of jobs and people that the average person isn't familiar with. And at the end of the day, any change occurs because of the average person; if not because they elected someone in the hopes of doing their bidding, then because representative officials are doing what they *think* they average person wants. We can argue until the cows come home on how well they're doing, but that's the concept. Whether you like Chuck Schumer or Mitch McConnell, both of them think they're doing what average people want.

So yeah, this Weber story isn't *for* you. It's only just barely for me. But there are a lot of other people that are finding out new things right now, and just by the numbers, a lot of it is true. Some people need to be educated more than you do.

None of this is even close to new.

This dance between men and women--and all the other permutations--has been going on since the beginning of time.

Why do you think men seek power?

And is beauty power?

While I do admire Weber--our boats passed once on Upper St. Regis, LOL--he changed the look of 20th century photography.

And it's screamingly obvious he likes boys.

Were I to model for him--LOL--and he were to make an inappropriate suggestion, I'd tilt my head, and say... "Hello, Bruce?"

LOL.

Personally, I adore women. 

But at 69 I'm hors de combat.

Still, Nietzsche wrote... Goest thou to women?  Do not forget thy whip.

I stand with Ms Nussbaum of The New Yorker. 

Think her comment is satirical?

Personally, I believe the "Grand Sexual-Harassment Reckoning" is just the flavor of the week.

RBD

N.B.  Please don't ask about those politicians.  I'd put them in the line-up.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/ … story.html


It continues...

And for whoever here in this thread thinks this is in the news because there's not a "good war".

Are you suggesting war is good?