Photographer
VISION Photography
Posts: 9
Los Angeles, California, US
Hello all, I've been noticing lately that a lot of photographers don't give credit to the models and other talent involved with work displayed here. I'm sure there could be a few reasons as to why, such as the talent shown is not on MM or likewise the MUA or other contributors, or perhaps the talent and other parties involved have asked to not be credited for whatever reason. I just thought it was worth mentioning that it really does go a long way to give credit when possible. That's all. Thanks for reading!
Photographer
PHP-Photography
Posts: 1390
Vaasa, Ostrobothnia, Finland
Or model does not verify the credit.
Photographer
VISION Photography
Posts: 9
Los Angeles, California, US
Yes that's a good point. I'm not sure why creators so frequently neglect to list model's names or at least their pseudonyms on photos that they appear in. For a while I thought it was related to the maturity or explicitness of the content, but after looking around at the models that weren't credited in mature or even g-rated content, I couldn't come to any logical conclusion as to why credit would be withheld for privacy purposes since said models were almost exclusively posing in mature content. Is it laziness? I just don't understand.
Photographer
Red Sky Photography
Posts: 3893
Germantown, Maryland, US
VISION Photography wrote: Hello all, I've been noticing lately that a lot of photographers don't give credit to the models and other talent involved with work displayed here. I'm sure there could be a few reasons as to why, such as the talent shown is not on MM or likewise the MUA or other contributors, or perhaps the talent and other parties involved have asked to not be credited for whatever reason. I just thought it was worth mentioning that it really does go a long way to give credit when possible. That's all. Thanks for reading! Have a look at the daily contests, many have no model credits. It's a networking site, I want everyone I work with to meet more photographers and get more work.
Photographer
Risen Phoenix Photo
Posts: 3779
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
I also notice that most models don't ever credit photographers either. Let's face it I wonder if MM is for networking at all any longer given the growth of Facebook, and Instagram.
Model
Laura UnBound
Posts: 28745
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
PHP-Photography wrote: Or model does not verify the credit. You don't have to verify a credit given on a posted image. You could tag me in your entire portfolio and I don't have to approve any of it. I can however hide it from my "credited images" in my own portfolio. Most other social media sites also don't require a verification for the person doing the posting, it only affects whether or not the images show up in the timelines of the person tagged.
Photographer
PHP-Photography
Posts: 1390
Vaasa, Ostrobothnia, Finland
Laura UnBound wrote: You don't have to verify a credit given on a posted image. It is unfortunate that MM chose to use word "credit" for references too.
Model
Laura UnBound
Posts: 28745
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
PHP-Photography wrote: It is unfortunate that MM chose to use word "credit" for references too. True. I was assuming the OP meant the link to the other people involved in the photo that goes under it in the portfolios. (or links back to people elsewhere on social media) Do you have to approve someone's "verified credit" of you for it to show on your profile? Most of the people I've worked with aren't using them so I can't remember what that process was. I thought they just showed up as well.
Photographer
PHP-Photography
Posts: 1390
Vaasa, Ostrobothnia, Finland
Laura UnBound wrote: True. I was assuming the OP meant the link to the other people involved in the photo that goes under it in the portfolios. I think you assumed correctly, I didnt.
Laura UnBound wrote: Do you have to approve someone's "verified credit" of you for it to show on your profile? Yes.
Photographer
VISION Photography
Posts: 9
Los Angeles, California, US
Laura UnBound wrote: True. I was assuming the OP meant the link to the other people involved in the photo that goes under it in the portfolios. Sorry for the confusion, I was referring to the credit listed beneath a photo.
Photographer
Pixrbias
Posts: 104
Boston, Massachusetts, US
The real reason I don't is that, i only use paid working models (mostly traveling) who are mostly known here and elsewhere already. I don't shoot for trade and have had my images show up somewhere they don't belong. If people ask me who the model is I will tell them if I think it will be a good fit. Never without the models' permission. Word of mouth referrals still go a long way in my realm. Same goes for hair and make up.
Photographer
Brooklyn Bridge Images
Posts: 13200
Brooklyn, New York, US
VISION Photography wrote: I just thought it was worth mentioning that it really does go a long way to give credit when possible. Goes a long way to what exactly ?
Photographer
VISION Photography
Posts: 9
Los Angeles, California, US
Pixrbias wrote: The real reason I don't is that, i only use paid working models (mostly traveling) who are mostly known here and elsewhere already. I don't shoot for trade and have had my images show up somewhere they don't belong. If people ask me who the model is I will tell them if I think it will be a good fit. Never without the models' permission. Word of mouth referrals still go a long way in my realm. Same goes for hair and make up. I understand. Thank you for your reply!
Photographer
VISION Photography
Posts: 9
Los Angeles, California, US
Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote: Goes a long way to what exactly ? As Pixrbias mentioned, word of mouth and listing a model's profile can benefit the talent in the future. I also believe this to be true.
Photographer
Red Sky Photography
Posts: 3893
Germantown, Maryland, US
Pixrbias wrote: The real reason I don't is that, i only use paid working models (mostly traveling) who are mostly known here and elsewhere already. I don't shoot for trade and have had my images show up somewhere they don't belong. If people ask me who the model is I will tell them if I think it will be a good fit. Never without the models' permission. Word of mouth referrals still go a long way in my realm. Same goes for hair and make up. Several things I don't understand in your reply. I looked through your portfolio and recognized a couple of models, but there were several I might like to shoot with, but I can't offer any of these paid, traveling models a booking because I don't know who they are. I don't understand why not shooting trade makes any difference. If I ask you who a model is, you want to pre screen me, and only share their contact info if you think we will be a good fit? Every paid, traveling model I've shot with is interested in more bookings. The more people they shoot with or have contact with, the more likely they are to make enough money to continue their profession.
Photographer
Pixrbias
Posts: 104
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Red Sky Photography wrote: Several things I don't understand in your reply. I looked through your portfolio and recognized a couple of models, but there were several I might like to shoot with, but I can't offer any of these paid, traveling models a booking because I don't know who they are. I don't understand why not shooting trade makes any difference. If I ask you who a model is, you want to pre screen me, and only share their contact info if you think we will be a good fit? Every paid, traveling model I've shot with is interested in more bookings. The more people they shoot with or have contact with, the more likely they are to make enough money to continue their profession. Every paid, traveling model I've shot with is interested in more bookings. The more people they shoot with or have contact with, the more likely they are to make enough money to continue their profession. . True, true, and true. I build a trust and respect relationship with each model.... They work hard, get paid, move on to the next gig and I don't ask who. I don't care whom. Haven't met any two photographers yet with the same perspective, but character plays roll, so that's why I ask the model first. It ain't broke so no need to......
Photographer
Eye of the World
Posts: 1396
Corvallis, Oregon, US
IOW you don't think the models can make their own independent judgement of who they want to work with wirhout you pre-screening the photographers.
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