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RIP: Anthony Bourdain
Jun 08 18 08:19 am Link No! Jun 08 18 08:20 am Link very sad, he had a unique vision on his show Jun 08 18 09:21 am Link When I first heard I thought, yep, accidental overdose, because you read things about the guy,even from his own mouth. Suicide is the last way I thought that guy would have gone. perception is weird I cant tell you how many time me and my mother would talk about the show and comment on what a life he has...travel all over and try exotic food. little does one realize, that just because one is a huge success doesnt mean they arent fighting demons. over the years whenever I would have a need to travel someplace, I would always look thru I-tunes TV episodes to see if he had gone there and download the episode and then I would go where he went. anyways terrible news. Jun 08 18 09:37 am Link Other than Prince and Chris Cornell, I generally don't have reactions to celebrity deaths but this one hurts. Not just as someone who considers myself a growing cook, but because he was truly inspirational to me. He was no-nonsense and I admire people who are like that. The way he criticized people like Rachael Ray, Guy Fieri, and the like was important. I learned not to use truffle oil through him. I learned what foie grais and pho was because him. I have an album of food on here is called Food Porn BECAUSE of him. When I would get sick of traveling I'd watch his show and get through it with food. I learned to appreciate food everywhere I went because of him. His cookbook is my bible for a reason. FINALLY someone said; "FUCK DESSERT, EAT CHEESE." Top Chef had the greatest seasons with him and Eric Ripert on them. He was very careful to constructively critique young chefs. The way he was a dick to vegans and vegetarians was fucking NEEDED. Because it became less about the food and more about themselves. He said shit that no one would say because he gave zero fucks. I LEARN from people like him. I'm so sad I'll never read another one of his poetic words again. His storytelling was magical. He made something as ridiculous as the fucking Waffle House interesting. He was such a beacon in the food world. Not only that, he was just a really cool person and quite literally the only chef to stand with women during the #metoo movement. "In these current circumstances, one must pick a side. I stand unhesitatingly and unwaveringly with the women” he said. In a man driven world of the food industry he stood with women. He was one of the few Americans to stand against Israel for the Palestinians of Gaza which I deeply admired. When we think about depression, a lot of us can't imagine such a dark place he and others are in. Especially when there's no apparent signs. We're just, as Bill Hicks once famously said, a virus with shoes. There's only so much in life that can make us happy and fill holes. He lead a great life from the scope of us common people, including unconditional love of his daughter and romantic love as well. But if you are still in a dark place with all of the things he had in his life, there's only one way to be at peace and I respect that. That's literally all my mind will fathom when it comes to depression. Completely on the surface. It's extremely complicated. All I do know is, Tony we miss you. Your legacy will live on. Jun 08 18 11:02 am Link Didn't know him, so can't comment on him. But generally -- he died from an apparent suicide attempt, and I often have mixed feelings about suicides. Maybe we should be happy that he got what he wanted -- a way out? Maybe we should be sad that the fellow, who was otherwise in good health, felt so down that he decided to check out? Maybe we should think he's weak because he took the easy way out? I don't know. Maybe we should be mad because he left behind suffering loved ones. Like I said, I usually don't know what to feel with suicides. In any case, his pain is done, so may he rest in peace. Jun 08 18 01:09 pm Link Watching his show always made me feel like I was travelin' with a good buddy to someplace interesting and exciting . . . some of the places he went, I'd been to, some recently, some long ago, either way, it took me right back to that spot and time . . . others were a completely new experience, and "discovering" them with him as my guide seemed familiar and comfortable . . . sad to see the demons take him, RIP AB . . . SOS Jun 08 18 02:47 pm Link Looknsee Photography wrote: Maybe you should remove your ego and realize this man was in a VERY dark place and this was his only answer. It doesn't really matter how you feel about it, he's free finally. I think we all need to stop judging people and their life choices. His body, his life, he gets to decide what to do with it. Saying suicide is "weak" is incredibly ignorant. Being angry that he decided to end his life and he left loved ones behind is a VERY selfish way to think. You are simplifying something extremely complicated. You and I will never understand the dark place he or anyone else who does this is in so maybe stop having opinions on something you will never understand and respect his right to free himself. I miss the fuck out of him but I realize that's selfish and I let it go. Jun 11 18 10:51 am Link I can understand suicide if someone's body or mind is broken and can't be repaired or they have addictions that can't be controlled. beyond that I think "couldn't they have found a way out of the darkness?", especially if they had resources. or maybe big Pharma is to blame in some cases. I'm not against letting people go if they don't want to be here but I imagine it can be hard for those they leave behind. I thought the movie what dreams may come had an interesting take on the subject. Jun 11 18 12:02 pm Link Yeah I'm wondering if he had anti depressants in his system. I have heard they can cause big deep mood swings, I cant see what else would drive a guy who from all accounts by multiple people was acting like he was just fine to hanging himself. hopefully the toxicology gets released soon. Jun 11 18 02:00 pm Link RIP Mr. Bourdain Its may be impossible for those left behind to comprehend the depth of despair, the darkness, the hoplessness that leads to suicide. Most of us have support systems that are working for us---even if we are troubled, we still see options. Flawed as our communication skills might be, we are able to at least at some level show others we are hurting, and need help. Whether it is our spouse, or kids, or religious leaders or paid shrink, we are still able to talk to someone. But to believe there is no option, no hope, that you are powerless to alter the course of events... That whatever pain you are feeling is unending, that whatever lonliness or anger or emotion you feel will always be the dominant part of your life.... And to believe that there is no one who you can turn to who will understand, who will be able to help....and even if there was someone---you dont want to burden them with your problems--- I hope none of us on this forum ever go there, or ever have friends or family who go there... I have been dealing with PTSD for decades now. I have been in support groups and watched people slip away- become lost to the despair, and kill themselves. Aside from the pain of the loss, there is always the anger- "why didnt he tell me? Why didnt he talk to me? How could he? But that anger is on me, it is my frustration at not being helpful, not being there in his time of his most extreme need... We need to really take a hard look at our attitudes towards mental illness, and the importance of treatment... the importance of support.... and the need to remove the stigma, and replace it with understanding. We dont look at someone who has cancer and accuse them of being "whiners"... why do we treat mental illness as though it is a character flaw? Jun 11 18 02:38 pm Link Sometimes suicide is the sane answer. Just saying. Jun 11 18 03:28 pm Link It's certainly very surprising that he would do this. He had a great, fun career, tons of friends, a little girl, money, and a great relationship with his girlfriend who he seemed so happy with. He even had great relationships with both of his ex-wives. I mean, how bad could it have been to remove yourself from all of that? When I heard the news that he was dead, I thought for sure he had a heart attack. Definitely would never have thought suicide for him. My brother thinks they're covering up for him, and that it was possibly something like auto-erotic asphyxiation (like David Carradine) instead of intentional hanging. Interesting theory, I guess. I read his book "Kitchen Confidential" years ago, and it was very entertaining and informative about the food industry. I recommend it. Jun 11 18 05:30 pm Link Eugenya wrote: ! Didn't know that. Jun 11 18 07:12 pm Link Having lost three acquaintances whom were NOT seemingly suicidal BUT were taking antidepressants and ended their lives just brings the thought of these drug dealing/pharmaceutical people to the forefront of my finger pointing. I of course have no idea what him or Kate Spade or anybody for that matter private personal hell is like. But having been given the chance of retrospect ( I have been given last rites twice) things always change. Better or worse, always. But if your thought process is clouded by prescription drugs things are not in your favor. Jun 11 18 08:02 pm Link Acraftman1313 wrote: One reason I flat out refuse any meds for my depression issues....mainly because in my case a chemical can't cure what makes me down... Jun 12 18 05:45 am Link Model Sarah wrote: Well said. He was my food hero. Jun 13 18 02:07 am Link |
