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Brooklyn Bridge Images

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Brooklyn, New York, US

Dec 03 18 01:36 pm Link

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Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9775

Bellingham, Washington, US

As always, for any free web service you are not the customer, you are the product.
They are changing their product line to cater to a potential larger demographic, it's that simple.

Mediocrity in all things, the key to success.

Dec 03 18 01:39 pm Link

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TomFRohwer

Posts: 1601

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

If they want to create a market niche for competitors that's a clever idea.

Dec 03 18 03:54 pm Link

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Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

apple didnt have any impact on tumblr that verizon didnt want apple to have.

it was a child porn blog that got tumblr temporarily pulled from the app store, but tumblr has been cracking down on nudity since before yahoo bought them - just in smaller increments. I cant remember how many years my blog has been shadow-banned, the hashtags with my name in them blocked, my blog force-flagged as nsfw, the requirement for a user to be logged in so they can turn the safe-search off and see it, etc etc. I had an image of me in a strap-on just simply sitting there wearing it pulled down for "inappropriate content" YEARS ago, I contested it and they put it back up, and then when it was pulled again they've completely ignored me (made easier once they removed the ability to email with a real live human being).

Tumblr has wanted a good excuse to kill all nudity for quite a while, and they've also had the ability to better filter their content and keep things like child porn off their site for ages...they simply just didnt want to spend the money and now they get to say "banning all porn is for the best!" because what monster is gonna argue against something that bans child porn? Sort of exactly how SESTA/FOSTA was won  - "think of the children!" while giving the axe to all consenting adults who depend on these platforms as a source of income.

This has been a long time coming, apple just gave tumblr the excuse.

Dec 03 18 05:08 pm Link

Photographer

Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Anybody with helpful tips for a new place to host NSFW content that has features like custom page templates

Dec 03 18 05:37 pm Link

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Chuckarelei

Posts: 11271

Seattle, Washington, US

Tumblr just write their own death sentence.

Dec 03 18 09:51 pm Link

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Chuckarelei

Posts: 11271

Seattle, Washington, US

Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
Anybody with helpful tips for a new place to host NSFW content that has features like custom page templates

Don't know about custom page templates. But Flickr (for now) and 500px.

Dec 03 18 09:53 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

There are several aspects of Tumblr that I really love:

Photography
Architecture
Art
Surreal Art (as I am also a surrealist painter)
Fashion
Lifestyle
Veganism
Outdoor Inspiration
Calisthenics
Fitness
Nature/Hippie Movement
Fashion
Fashion Photography

... and some adult focused blogs.

America is regressing at a frightening speed, as if the 60's never happened.

Some studies show that people, especially younger people in the US, supposedly losing interest and have less sex than the generation before.

You could think that this might be a way of mother nature to control the overpopulation on the planet...

But this is happening mostly in the States, that's less an issue with nature, but more of a cultural phenomenon.

Dec 03 18 11:58 pm Link

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goofus

Posts: 808

Santa Barbara, California, US

meh... tumbler was done anyway

Verizon - a phone company owns them along with yahoo.. and all they really care about is scraping info off yahoo emails and tumbler blogs  (info they can market)... nakkies don't fit into their 'Big Picture'

at least they sold off Flickr to smugmug so it has a (very small) chance now

Dec 04 18 06:45 am Link

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barepixels

Posts: 3195

San Diego, California, US

If someone need help with backing up all their pics on Tumblr, let me know.

Dec 04 18 09:26 am Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

barepixels wrote:
If someone need help with backing up all their pics on Tumblr, let me know.

You know... I don't have any adult content on my blog, but a ton of photos 95% mine and a few reblogs of stuff I liked...

Doing a full back up might be a good idea in general!  smile

Dec 04 18 04:42 pm Link

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Randy Poe

Posts: 1638

Green Cove Springs, Florida, US

I am pretty sure you can still post nudes on Flikr but only up to 1000 of them.

That's not always a full fap now is it.

Dec 04 18 05:30 pm Link

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Two Pears Studio

Posts: 3632

Wilmington, Delaware, US

I had no idea Tumblr had adult content... maybe I was using it wrong?

I guess you snooze you lose!

I mostly looked at art pages... had no idea?

Dec 04 18 06:18 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

So... I am afraid of censorship, because I feel it is dangerous!

Started browsing Tumblr... and thanks to that platform, I just found a photographer that does nudes exactly how I would like to shoot if I'd get into that genre... very elegant, very cool, really loving this.

The name of the photographer is Ruslan Lobanov.

I have never heard of him... but, not knowing how extreme Tumblr is going to be "a friendlier" Tumblr and they ban even nipples, like FB does... I will most likely never discover other photographers like him.

Someone had a memo that said "Censorship is like forbidding a grown man to eat a steak, because a baby is not able to chew one.

Dec 04 18 07:54 pm Link

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TEB-Art Photo

Posts: 605

Carrboro, North Carolina, US

Tumblr has been committing slow suicide since Verizon bought them. Sure, there's a lot of gross content, but tons and tons of good-lucking art nude as well. It boggles the imagination how much they detest their customer base. Did none of them ever take Econ 101?

Rather than killing Tumblr, why can't they spin it off? I suspect it would be self-supporting with ads. Maybe they don't want to admit they made a mistake acquiring it? They split off Flickr and that's a great thing, considering Verizon has demonstrated NO business acumen whatsoever.

So, 500 Pix, Flickr, DeviantArt -- other platforms exist, but they lack the quick browsability of Tumblr. And Instagram is worthless-- they've been nipplephobic for years. Looks like there is a available niche for artistic adult content, if someone wants to go down that road.

Dec 04 18 08:36 pm Link

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TEB-Art Photo

Posts: 605

Carrboro, North Carolina, US

udor wrote:
America is regressing at a frightening speed....

Some studies show that people, especially younger people in the US, supposedly losing interest and have less sex than the generation before

America is going the way of Mother Russia, every single Ruble going to the 1%-- crumbs for the rest. Hopelessness. Rotten, expensive healthcare. Puritanism. Fear of absolutely EVERYTHING -- harmless immigrants, minorities, gay people. Life spans DECREASING. Life spans do not decrease in functional countries.

Dec 04 18 08:43 pm Link

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Risen Phoenix Photo

Posts: 3779

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

As an art nude photographer I am glad Tumblr is taking down all the nudity on to site. I abhor Puritanism, I abhor the nanny mentality and the regressive nature of hypocritical right wing christians.

However I stopped having anything to do with Tumblr once porn sites became popular on their. I didn't want my Images reblogged from my site onto the myriad of straight up porn sites.

My models also did not appreciate that and Tumblr did little to fix this problem.

Dec 06 18 05:10 pm Link

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Ivan123

Posts: 1037

Arlington, Virginia, US

Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
As an art nude photographer I am glad Tumblr is taking down all the nudity on to site. I abhor Puritanism, I abhor the nanny mentality and the regressive nature of hypocritical right wing christians.

However I stopped having anything to do with Tumblr once porn sites became popular on their. I didn't want my Images reblogged from my site onto the myriad of straight up porn sites.

My models also did not appreciate that and Tumblr did little to fix this problem.

So, if you aren't on tumblr, why are you glad that other people can't post on tumblr anymore?  Why do you even care?  I have a few thousand followers on tumblr so someone seems to like my work there but now that avenue is blocked off and I can no longer post work there, I guess so that your work, which isn't on tumblr anymore, will continue to not be on tumblr anymore?  I don't get it.  And the problem you cite, while real, is not a tumblr problem.  Once you put ANYTHING online, ANYWHERE, anyone can do a screen cut and paste and put it anywhere else.  True, tumblr made reposting very easy, but tumblr is not what made it possible.

Dec 06 18 06:50 pm Link

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Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
As an art nude photographer I am glad Tumblr is taking down all the nudity on to site. I abhor Puritanism, I abhor the nanny mentality and the regressive nature of hypocritical right wing christians.

However I stopped having anything to do with Tumblr once porn sites became popular on their. I didn't want my Images reblogged from my site onto the myriad of straight up porn sites.

My models also did not appreciate that and Tumblr did little to fix this problem.

You realize to the average uptight, pro censorship, nanny state Point of view your work is in the same exact basket as the Porn sites you are happy to see purged ?
What about Erotic art ?
Would you be glad to see Robert Mapplethorpe banned regardless if his work suits your taste or not.

I ask you to consider this famous quote

"    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. "

Dec 07 18 11:31 am Link

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kickfight

Posts: 35054

Portland, Oregon, US

I acknowledge that NSFW is merely a connotative acronym, but it's still hilariously ironic to note that every effort is apparently directed exclusively at making things "work-safe".

Because yeah... nothing uplifts the proletariat more than realizing that WORK is apparently the only "safe" space that the masters give a shit about. roll

Dec 07 18 03:39 pm Link

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Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

kickfight wrote:
I acknowledge that NSFW is merely a connotative acronym, but it's still hilariously ironic to note that every effort is apparently directed exclusively at making things "work-safe".

Because yeah... nothing uplifts the proletariat more than realizing that WORK is apparently the only "safe" space that the masters give a shit about. roll

I've never understood the push to make things "work safe" when I cant think of a single job that WANTS you to be looking at social media at work and wont actually fire you for it if they catch you, unless you work for like....buzzfeed...in which case the weirder shit you can find the better and everyone at buzzfeed is constantly having to turn worksafe filters OFF in order to do their jobs roll

I just operate like a half-intelligent adult human being and dont open certain apps or sign into certain accounts when I'm not in the comfort and privacy of my own home because I know that the assholes looking over my shoulder while I'm in line at starbucks are going to throw a shitfit if they see a boob while they're spying on what strangers are doing. I dont know why websites feel like they need to police that FOR anybody, if someone cant behave themselves with what they're looking at in public they should be responsible and probably get kicked out of wherever they are. At MOST websites/apps should implement a splash page that asks you if you want a "worksafe" mode on and theyll censor your timeline at that moment. Most social media already insisted on self-flagging of adult content, but your filters are just always on or always off and theyre hidden in your settings so its a pain in the ass to toggle.

Dec 07 18 07:29 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Laura UnBound wrote:
I've never understood the push to make things "work safe" when I cant think of a single job that WANTS you to be looking at social media at work and wont actually fire you for it if they catch you, unless you work for like....buzzfeed...in which case the weirder shit you can find the better and everyone at buzzfeed is constantly having to turn worksafe filters OFF in order to do their jobs roll

I just operate like a half-intelligent adult human being and dont open certain apps or sign into certain accounts when I'm not in the comfort and privacy of my own home because I know that the assholes looking over my shoulder while I'm in line at starbucks are going to throw a shitfit if they see a boob while they're spying on what strangers are doing. I dont know why websites feel like they need to police that FOR anybody, if someone cant behave themselves with what they're looking at in public they should be responsible and probably get kicked out of wherever they are. At MOST websites/apps should implement a splash page that asks you if you want a "worksafe" mode on and theyll censor your timeline at that moment. Most social media already insisted on self-flagging of adult content, but your filters are just always on or always off and theyre hidden in your settings so its a pain in the ass to toggle.

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Dec 07 18 07:47 pm Link

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kickfight

Posts: 35054

Portland, Oregon, US

Laura UnBound wrote:
I've never understood the push to make things "work safe" when I cant think of a single job that WANTS you to be looking at social media at work and wont actually fire you for it if they catch you, unless you work for like....buzzfeed...in which case the weirder shit you can find the better and everyone at buzzfeed is constantly having to turn worksafe filters OFF in order to do their jobs roll

Yep. Most employers already have (or should have) a pretty clear and pretty firm policy on non-work-related internet usage, so none of this is really about workplaces at all. But it's endlessly amusing to see the acronym being bandied about, as if it was somehow a matter of merely keeping that oh-so-abhorrent torrent of icky filth from besmirching those pristine sacrosanct corporate intranets. lol

Laura UnBound wrote:
I dont know why websites feel like they need to police that FOR anybody, if someone cant behave themselves with what they're looking at in public they should be responsible and probably get kicked out of wherever they are. At MOST websites/apps should implement a splash page that asks you if you want a "worksafe" mode on and theyll censor your timeline at that moment. Most social media already insisted on self-flagging of adult content, but your filters are just always on or always off and theyre hidden in your settings so its a pain in the ass to toggle.

My 15-year full-time stint in high tech (1993 - 2008) always reiterated to me that ANY level of nuance ---basically, anything that exceeds the basic on-off binary--- is apparently too expensive to implement/support. And even when you actually design that shit for them ---look! you *can* actually iterate across a decision tree! OMG MAGIC!!!!--- they still say it's "code-bloat" and unnecessary, so no can do. So yeah, it's STILL either a frickin' free-for-all always at all times wheeeeee *OR* the hammer-down on everything because THE CHILDREN or WORKSAFE or whatever lame excuse to rationalize away doing anything other than the bare functional minimum. Urgh.

Dec 07 18 10:16 pm Link

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rick lesser

Posts: 1116

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

The vanilla-ing of the US continues.

Dec 07 18 11:08 pm Link

Photographer

- Phil H -

Posts: 26552

Mildenhall, England, United Kingdom

This may be of interest to some, a social media like platform that currently allows nudes and is currently running a "free for life" promotion. https://www.vero.co/

A lot of photographers seem to be hopping onboard, so it might be worth a try.

Dec 08 18 05:53 pm Link

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Frank Lewis Photography

Posts: 14487

Winter Park, Florida, US

- Phil H - wrote:
This may be of interest to some, a social media like platform that currently allows nudes and is currently running a "free for life" promotion. https://www.vero.co/

A lot of photographers seem to be hopping onboard, so it might be worth a try.

This Vero appears to only be for hand-held devices.

Dec 08 18 06:46 pm Link

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Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

- Phil H - wrote:
This may be of interest to some, a social media like platform that currently allows nudes and is currently running a "free for life" promotion. https://www.vero.co/

A lot of photographers seem to be hopping onboard, so it might be worth a try.

I remember vero coming out during one of FB or Insta's many crack downs and there was something super sketch about it that made me delete it immediately. Cant remember what it was now, but I'm generally a "make an account and hold onto it just in case" kind of person and whatever it was was enough to make me not just abandon the account but fully delete it.

Dec 08 18 09:42 pm Link

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Keith Allen Phillips

Posts: 3670

Santa Fe, New Mexico, US

Laura UnBound wrote:
I remember vero coming out during one of FB or Insta's many crack downs and there was something super sketch about it that made me delete it immediately. Cant remember what it was now, but I'm generally a "make an account and hold onto it just in case" kind of person and whatever it was was enough to make me not just abandon the account but fully delete it.

I forget exactly what it was but I think it had something to do with the owner's previous business dealings and basically what a piece of shit he was.

Dec 08 18 09:54 pm Link

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Francisco Castro

Posts: 2628

Cincinnati, Ohio, US

Laura UnBound wrote:
... now they get to say "banning all porn is for the best!" because what monster is gonna argue against something that bans child porn? Sort of exactly how SESTA/FOSTA was won  - "think of the children!" while giving the axe to all consenting adults who depend on these platforms as a source of income.

The "think of the children" argument while giving the axe to all consenting adults vs. gun control is just one of the Right's hypocrisy. They are fine stripping consenting adults' rights to get their right to view adult material and do adult activities with other consenting adults as long as "it's for the children" because one child is too many. However, you can't pass any sort of sensible gun laws (like mental health background checks) because taking away one person's right to possess as many firearms as they can afford to buy is one person too much.

Take away sexual rights, but keep gun rights. Because sex or anything sexual, is "icky".

Dec 08 18 10:29 pm Link

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TEGAN

Posts: 81

Courtice, Ontario, Canada

Dec 09 18 01:35 pm Link

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TEB-Art Photo

Posts: 605

Carrboro, North Carolina, US

Francisco Castro wrote:
The "think of the children" argument while giving the axe to all consenting adults vs. gun control is just one of the Right's hypocrisy.

Not to get too political, but Scalia's dubious argument in Heller that people not in "orgainized militias" have some kind of "right" to own weapons is flatly insane. It's like giving people a right to drop matches in the forest. The fact that any random idiot can get any weapon, however gruesome, means that law-abiding citizens can never feel safe in public anymore. It abridges the rights of others.

The Tumblr people are metaphorically banning nerf guns because there are AK-47 "out there".

Dec 09 18 01:54 pm Link

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Motordrive Photography

Posts: 7086

Lodi, California, US

here's something to put it in perspective

https://www.theonion.com/tumblr-to-ban- … 1830936698

Dec 09 18 02:47 pm Link

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Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Keith Allen Phillips wrote:

I forget exactly what it was but I think it had something to do with the owner's previous business dealings and basically what a piece of shit he was.

Sounds plausible. And then you had to ASK to pretty please actually delete your account and it was this whole thing? I dont like a platform that wont let me leave.

Dec 09 18 09:22 pm Link

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Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Francisco Castro wrote:
Take away sexual rights, but keep gun rights. Because sex or anything sexual, is "icky".

sex has always been worse than violence, for both sides of the same coin.

Women and trans folx are largely the ones harmed by banning sexual expression on the internet. Are the big brand porno sites taking a hit? No, and they never have. They never had trouble finding hosting, they never had trouble securing credit card processors...and despite them being full to the brim with women, they're owned and controlled by men. Tumblr, twitter, sex worker sites, et al allowed women and trans folx to take control of their own business, and that can't stand. Men need to be in control of the business, and as a result, in control of women's bodies and their sexualities. You're only allowed to be bought and sold by men. It's an act of violence...and we're perfectly fine with violence as long as its carried out by big powerful men (or men who want to feel big and powerful)

Dec 09 18 09:32 pm Link