JSouthworth wrote:
Despite the diversion of resources to the racial civil war taking place in Israel, the Ukrainian armed forces have achieved some excellent results recently. The UK and Germany are stepping up their support.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/uk … &ei=22

The reference cited does not cite ANY aide at all diverted from Ukraine to Israel as you falsely claim. Quite the opposite in fact. Imagine that.

You have shown beyond a doubt you do not read your own references....when you bother to cite other than your own biased opinions, of course. If you had, you would have learned that the "breakthrough"  in this case was a minor victory, and hardly a game-changer, and  having nothing at all to do with diversion of aid:

"But there are still believed to be tens of thousands of Russian troops still in the area, so the victory is by no means decisive."

"The victory for Ukraine comes after its counteroffensive largely failed to reclaim much of the territory captured by Putin's forces in February last year."

"A military expert said that the prospects for Ukraine this winter are looking dim. Sean Bell told Sky News: "The Ukrainians could probably not have been better prepared.

"They had all the weapons, they had all the training and the money, but frankly five to six months into that offensive the lines haven't moved a great deal and frankly the front line looks as if it's stalled."

"One of Zelensky's top aides also anonymously briefed the press on the true situation in Ukraine, simply saying: "We're not moving forward."

They also complained that some areas of Ukraine's frontline did not have enough troops to capitalise on all the aide sent from the West."

-All quotes from YOUR source.

Which, in this context, makes your post just another weak, biased, installment in the anti-Israeli screed this thread was created to be.

Focuspuller wrote:
The reference cited does not cite ANY aide at all diverted from Ukraine to Israel as you falsely claim. Quite the opposite in fact. Imagine that.

Which, in this context, makes your post just another weak, biased, installment in the anti-Israeli screed this thread was created to be.

Any military equipment sent to Israel is an unnecessary diversion of resources in my opinion. The Ukrainians are the people who can make effective use of it, in defending their country from an invasion by Russia as opposed to indiscriminately killing civilians to no military purpose, other than that of perpetuating a cycle of racial and sectarian violence and with it the dominant position of the military within the Israeli state.

Not all Israelis are far-right extremists or racists by any means and any decent person should be able to sympathise with the victims of this horrendous conflict and their relatives on both sides. But the Israeli state is a mirror image of Nazi Germany in some respects, which may be inevitable when the historical fact of the Holocaust is reified in law and politics to that extent.

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has recently visited Ukraine;

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ru … r-AA1kdmpK

JSouthworth wrote:

Any military equipment sent to Israel is an unnecessary diversion of resources in my opinion. The Ukrainians are the people who can make effective use of it, in defending their country from an invasion by Russia as opposed to indiscriminately killing civilians to no military purpose, other than that of perpetuating a cycle of racial and sectarian violence and with it the dominant position of the military within the Israeli state.

Not all Israelis are far-right extremists or racists by any means and any decent person should be able to sympathise with the victims of this horrendous conflict and their relatives on both sides. But the Israeli state is a mirror image of Nazi Germany in some respects, which may be inevitable when the historical fact of the Holocaust is reified in law and politics to that extent.

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has recently visited Ukraine;

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ru … r-AA1kdmpK

"Any military equipment sent to Israel is an unnecessary diversion of resources in my opinion. "

Your extremely expansive and laughable definition of "diversion" requires your particular biased opinion., but nice try.

"Not all Israelis are far-right extremists or racists by any means and any decent person should be able to sympathise with the victims of this horrendous conflict and their relatives on both sides"

Good God I almost fell for this ray of actual reason, but no, you went ahead and ruined it:

"But the Israeli state is a mirror image of Nazi Germany in some respects, which may be inevitable when the historical fact of the Holocaust is reified in law and politics to that extent."

In other words, you oppose laws against Holocaust denial. Got it.

Focuspuller wrote:
"Any military equipment sent to Israel is an unnecessary diversion of resources in my opinion. "

Your extremely expansive and laughable definition of "diversion" requires your particular biased opinion., but nice try.

Diversion. The act or an instance of diverting or straying from a course, activity, or use - Merriam-Webster.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diversion

JSouthworth wrote:

Diversion. The act or an instance of diverting or straying from a course, activity, or use - Merriam-Webster.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/diversion

CIRCULAR REASONING DEFINITION AND EXAMPLES

"The circular argument uses its own conclusion as one of its stated or unstated premises." AS IN:

"Diversion. The act or an instance of diverting...."

Your "definition" also fails in FACT.  SHOW EVIDENCE where specific materiel destined for Ukraine was "diverted " or "strayed" to Israel, or where the commitment to Ukraine's defense was attenuated  by support for Israel.

Poor old chap, letting your biases cloud your "logic."

JSouthworth wrote:
Not all Israelis are far-right extremists or racists by any means and any decent person should be able to sympathise with the victims of this horrendous conflict and their relatives on both sides. But the Israeli state is a mirror image of Nazi Germany in some respects, which may be inevitable when the historical fact of the Holocaust is reified in law and politics to that extent.

It would perhaps be more accurate to say that it is the right-wing Israeli conception of the Holocaust as being the result of a global anti-Semitic conspiracy that is reified in Israeli law and politics.

JSouthworth wrote:
It would perhaps be more accurate to say that it is the right-wing Israeli conception of the Holocaust as being the result of a global anti-Semitic conspiracy that is reified in Israeli law and politics.

OR it would perhaps be even more accurate to say. "I misspoke."

Focuspuller wrote:
OR it would perhaps be even more accurate to say. "I misspoke."

Maybe, maybe not. Either way, that would still be a big improvement over trying to pretend it was a typo, now wouldn't it?