Tony From Syracuse wrote:
Tellingly....[...]

Good to see ya posting Tony---- even though I 1000% disagree with what you say-

I am curious- have you watched the Jan 6th hearings yourself- or are you basing your reactions on news or social media reports you have seen?

LightDreams wrote:
To bring it back around to the original question...

How does Trump win the Presidency (at least honestly), if the majority of Republicans don't even want him as President?

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Some Democrats may want Trump to run.   Remember that based on recent polling (which is a long way from 2024), the only way that Biden wins the Presidency again is if the Republicans are dumb enough to nominate Trump as the Republican nominee.

Then, according to the polls, Biden support jumps way up and Biden wins.

2024 is so far away the James Webb Space Telescope couldn't find it. Speculating on the political landscape in two years from now is truly a waste of time, but as a wishlist the best case would be the cult nominates trump and he is beaten in an historic landslide and the GOP takes a time out while it purges itself of the MAGAt shitstains that enabled and nurtured the malignancy of trumpism, however unlikely that scenario.

LightDreams wrote:

An honest question.

If, despite his promises, he didn't deliver during his first 4 year term.  Especially during the first two years where the economy was still doing relatively well, plus Trump and the Republicans had FULL control, i.e. the Presidency, the Congress and the Senate...

Why would another couple of years of Trump be so different, this time around?

I honestly would like to understand.  So thank-you in advance...

2 years is not a long time for government. there's nothing to deliver. we need lower if not any taxes on business and lower income tax. we need to finally get rid of public school and student loaning. we also need drastic improvements to the quality of entry level work life, which must be based on the economy. we can't have that unless we have a free economy, culture won't "get better" without freedom.

-trump loves his beautiful wife
-he was born into a family and is a self made successful man
-obviously trump compared to hitler...if you were born and raised in the US and don't see why that is so stupid ,
-we need trump stains, better to have a civil war based on his bull shit than to forget we even have a president before
the economy is so corrupted that food becomes something people normally break laws for.

John Silva Photography wrote:
First, the most popular Trump has been politically is when he ran for a second term as the INCUMBENT. It's very difficult to beat a popular incumbent and Trump could not win as the incumbent. He will be even less popular in 2024. He will lose more votes, not gain votes. Trump lost critical swing states that will not swing back and likely lose a few more states if he does run.

Second, with all the mounting evidence of criminal wrong doing, the chances that Trump will wind up in prison before 2024 are very real. Would the GOP put it's eggs into a Trump basket knowing he could wind up in prison and lose all that effort knowing full well it's likely to happen....., I think not.

Trump will remain very prominent with his stranglehold on the GOP power though the midterms but into 2023 his star will start to dim sharply and into 2024 Trump will have become truly toxic. The rats are already backpedaling but by 2024 the rats from his sinking ship will have even turned on him to save their own skins. And if he is incarcerated, it will be pretty hard to run from a prison cell. That's how I see it going down!!! How do you see it going down???
John

your first paragraph is mostly accurate. more specifically it's that he "didn't win", which is what you ignored in your second paragraph and lost my interest

roger alan wrote:

As I am not able to find the "rolls eyes" emoji here, I will address a couple of these assertions before the big dogs come in here to eat a light snack...

"2 years is not a long time for government"   --- If that is true then why is it acceptable for the Trump zombies to bash Biden daily? Biden is not responsible for Putin invading Ukraine. Biden is not responsible for the inflation we see currently.

" we also need drastic improvements to the quality of entry level work life, which must be based on the economy" --- Hmmm that sounds like a leftist  notion, which does not fit with your other comments.

"trump loves his beautiful wife" ---  Well we don't know that. But we do know of many women he "loves" or "has loved", or would "love to love"...including his beautiful daughter.

" is a self made successful man" --- :rolls eyes: Trump does excel at creating division, causing damage and scamming fools. So you're correct, he is successful at something.

"obviously trump compared to hitler...if you were born and raised in the US and don't see why that is so stupid" --- as has been pointed out, Hitler loved dogs. In addition to that, the main difference is Trump is too stupid to pull off what Hitler did.  Seriously, the parallels  should be obvious to anyone with their eyes open. Those "rallies" where he routinely called to have his opponents "locked up"...what do you say about that? He even tried to get "youth rallies" going...not sure how far that went, but he did try to do that. Ever heard of the Hitler Youth?

" ...better to have a civil war..." --- This is currently at the top of the Russian troll farm rhetoric list. They spew this out thousands of times daily into social media, and the weak minded among us come to believe it. Putin wants YOU to believe that civil war is what America needs, and he has made you believe it  using nothing but the internet and free social media accounts.

Every nation has problems. No government is perfect in design or in implementation.

What we have has served us exceedingly well for many years...up until Trump stole the White House in 2016, and tried to steal it a 2nd time. What a coincidence that is that this suggestion of civil war did not pop up until after Trump was pulled kicking and crying from office after he failed to steal the White House a 2nd time.

It's good to have your extreme extents of criticism and counterism. I will focus on deeper insight rather than explain myself where mutually understood while also knowing I'm more literal in written mass communication.

I am not in touch with current news, very unfortunately, so I can't say much about Russia. However, I can figure based on the provide info from you. -Russia does not care about US having a civil war in terms of what anyone thinks they want of US. If anything, Russia is intelligent and knowledgeable enough to understand we do need a Civil War, as in the killing of socialist undermining, whether Russia sides or not, they're not doing anything about it. If Russia is trolling or provoking American's, it actually strengthens US if we not only recognize it but deal with it before, in theory, we have a war with Russia.
There's no stealing of the White House, if anything it was hi-jacked by the military for reason the general population has no knowledge of. What matters is understanding what America is and how its been corrupted since WW1 and what we haven't learned from so much war. That the general population is simply too ignorant and disenfranchised to have a real grip on defending America in the event it ends up like it has.

Trump is an honest American and speaks like one. He does have "opponents", people whom should be dealt with legally or by the military but we're so far gone from what America is.

This conversation doesn't have this much to do with Trump. It has to do with economy and control. It's more to do with foreign trade and allies vs inherently different populations. That's all a lot to explain. It transcends Ivy League intelligence.
And it's not even that difficult to grasp. It's more to do with being able to see the full picture and able to know that than to be in a contemplative mindstate about it.
Because when s hits the fan, when a bomb goes off, you see someone killed, things like that- you look back and wonder why no one ever did anything before that happened. Well, Trump and Pence did a lot, and a lot of US know that and we get it. The last thing we need is the 2nd Amendment corrupted. This is why Civil War may be necessary, it's beyond any ideas of trolling and Russia. US is very diverse, we have a problem from that and public school. So youth whatever, it doesn't matter, what matters is what we do to get the economy back into a ever growing one so paretns can pay for their children to be educated. The military probably needs to intervene for US to get out of public brainwash and censorship, well as ignored truth, the facts in history we haven't learned from, to a place where such a beautiful country can thrive.
We're nowhere near that. The peak of America happened in the 50s and 80s to 90s. With the technological improvements and infrastructure we have today, we can only yet dream of what we're missing out on.

Papro wrote:
[...]

-trump loves his beautiful wife

Which one? Ivana? Mother of three of his children - who divorced him after his numerous scandalous affairs and after months of splashy news coverage of his affair with Marla Maples...

Or was it Marla- who he finally married a few months AFTER his daughter Tiffany was born?

or maybe you mean Melania---who was home nursing newborn Barron while he was boinking Karen McDougal  and Stormy Daniels.


Yup a real loving guy....

rfordphotos wrote:

Which one? Ivana? Mother of three of his children - who divorced him after his numerous scandalous affairs and after months of splashy news coverage of his affair with Marla Maples...

Or was it Marla- who he finally married a few months AFTER his daughter Tiffany was born?

or maybe you mean Melania---who was home nursing newborn Barron while he was boinking Karen McDougal  and Stormy Daniels.


Yup a real loving guy....

it's obviously no one's business who he's "boinking"

i don't need jail threats and neither does anyone im interested in.
i don't need this. i work. i care. floridas off. wheres my girlfriend.
no one has talked to me. i dont need jail threats or court.

Papro wrote:
it's obviously no one's business who he's "boinking"

i don't need jail threats and neither does anyone im interested in.
i don't need this. i work. i care. floridas off. wheres my girlfriend.
no one has talked to me. i dont need jail threats or court.

Obviously, it is other people's business who he is boinking because it displays his character, which is poor.  It is other people's business when he sexually assaults someone or why would we need sex offender lists?   

You don't need threats of jail or court?  Are you saying no one does?  You are open to chucking all laws and letting everyone do as they please?

It was 7:11 am when you made your last post.  Why the hell aren't you working already?

Papro wrote:
TRUMP PENCE 2024! i will live in FLORIDA if that happens!

You REALLY are misinformed and delusional, aren't you?
In case you didn't know Trump wanted the January 1st mob to KILL Pence because Pence didn't follow Trump's illegal and useless order not to certify the election.  Pence will not be Trump's running mate again.

Republicans are already taking sides about who they'd nominate if Pence decides to run against Trump.  A few GOP politicians that are currently running for office are aligning themselves with one or the other, not both... and Pence is not putting his seal of approval on the same candidates as Treasonous Trump does.

Papro wrote:
I am not in touch with current news

Obviously.

Papro wrote:
Trump is an honest American and speaks like one. He does have "opponents", people whom should be dealt with legally or by the military but we're so far gone from what America is.

So tell us. Don't be coy. What IS America and how has it "gone far" from that?

Helpful hint: Try to be coherent.

Papro wrote:
trump loves his beautiful wife
-he was born into a family and is a self made successful man
-obviously trump compared to hitler...if you were born and raised in the US and don't see why that is so stupid ,
-we need trump stains, better to have a civil war based on his bull shit than to forget we even have a president before
the economy is so corrupted that food becomes something people normally break laws for.

You may think you're triggering "the libs' with this idiocy, but all you are really doing is outing yourself as a purveyor of idiotic posts and not to be taken seriously.

Papro wrote:
TRUMP PENCE 2024! i will live in FLORIDA if that happens!
This whole site.
Let's be real and honest, if Melania or Trump had a profile here without any political affiliation-
do you think they'd have any TF or be sitting in these forums not working, not to say they wouldn't discuss,
but you should ask yourselves-why are we not even doing a photoshoot?

LoL, I don't think you'll be moving to Florida any time soon!
If Trampo and the old lady had a profile on MM, they would NOT even be able to shoot TF. Who in the world would want to shoot a model that was 52 years old and a Man that;'s almost 80???
How many models have you posed with that are 52 years old? Can you say "saggy, crepey skin"?! Well at least silicone doesn't sag.
You said .....,"That's all a lot to explain. It transcends Ivy League intelligence". No offense but what do you know about Ivy League intelligence? Which Ivy league school did YOU graduate from? If you did not you're just parroting.
You said....., "we need to finally get rid of public school". And replace it with what? Private parochial schools? Or maybe charter schools? I know you don't have any answers, just talking points!
John

Ginamaria wrote:
He won't be able to run, and neither will Biden.

I'm not sure what will actually happen, but the polls are pretty clear.   The majority of Americans don't want either Trump or Biden to run again.

LightDreams wrote:

I'm not sure what will actually happen, but the polls are pretty clear.   The majority of Americans don't want either Trump or Biden to run again.

And a majority of Americans didn't want a pile of excrement president in 2016. So much for American "democracy" and predictions based on what Americans "want."  Polls show Americans want a lot that never even gets a vote in Congress. Time will tell.

Focuspuller wrote:
AGREED.

I will only add that the "canary in the coal mine" moment came in 2016, when the vaunted American political system reached into the bottom of the cesspool and elevated a steaming pile of shit to the most powerful position in the world. We may never get rid of the stench, or the stains on the walls of the White House, where Abraham Lincoln once lived.

We have U.S. residents of European heritage who have gotten accustomed to 400 years of white apartheid rule.  In the relocation west in the 1800's the indigenous inhabitants were exterminated in order to take their land.  Now those living white folks are seeing their majority declining, and in less than 20 years will be less than 50% of the population compared to non whites.  And they are scared.  That's turned to fear and now with a number of groups, violence.   So white voters are voting for people like trump and other republicans who are just prolonging the problem.  If the white folk can't learn to live with and accept non whites, the U.S. has no future. The U.S. isn't the only country having issues.  Countries around the world are coming unglued.  Climate change, can't manage population growth, racial issues, economic inbalance, etc. Will it continue to get worse? Probably.

rxz wrote:
We have U.S. residents of European heritage who have gotten accustomed to 400 years of white apartheid rule.  In the relocation west in the 1800's the indigenous inhabitants were exterminated in order to take their land.  Now those living white folks are seeing their majority declining, and in less than 20 years will be less than 50% of the population compared to non whites.  And they are scared.  That's turned to fear and now with a number of groups, violence.   So white voters are voting for people like trump and other republicans who are just prolonging the problem.  If the white folk can't learn to live with and accept non whites, the U.S. has no future. The U.S. isn't the only country having issues.  Countries around the world are coming unglued.  Climate change, can't manage population growth, racial issues, economic inbalance, etc. Will it continue to get worse? Probably.

We have been hearing about the demographic shift from White to non-White for YEARS, and yet the country seems to be moving more to the racist white christian nationalist right. This can only happen because democracy is dying in America. Let's face it - America was born with genetic defects - the Electoral College, slavery and the odious "three fifths rule", women as second class citizens, and a genocidal view of natives. Now we are seeing the specter of death in the malignant tumor on the body politic in trump, and his walking dead cult drones. Excising that poisonous growth will not be easy and may be very violent, I'm afraid.

IMAGINERIES wrote:
If he wins, the Canadians will have to build a wall !!

LoL, yes and Mexico might finally build Trampos wall and pay for it! Apparently our southern neighbor is complaining that Mexico City is being overrun with Americans, especially Californians! Imagine Mexico is suffering, “The Great Replacement” in reverse!!! LoL
John

John Silva Photography wrote:

LoL, yes and Mexico might finally build Trampos wall and pay for it! Apparently our southern neighbor is complaining that Mexico City is being overrun with Americans, especially Californians! Imagine Mexico is suffering, “The Great Replacement” in reverse!!! LoL
John

When song writer and singer Kinky Friedman ran for governor of Texas in 2006 he was against a southern boarder wall.  He felt if things got bad, Texans would not be able to escape to Mexico.  Kinky came in 4th so I guess the Mexicans didn't feel they had to worry about illegal Texans entering Mexico.

Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
In Day After Tomorrow(2004) The northern hemisphere is rendered uninhabitable in a few hours by the onset of a new ice age.
Surviving Americans flood the southern border relying on the compassion of the Mexican people for refuge.
Gawd I loved the Irony of those scenes LOL

LoL, though I've never heard of that movie so let alone seen it. A movie about an Ice age seems almost foreign in today's age of climates heating up with ice melting and the ocean levels rising as opposed to the levels receding and it getting colder!
Just an aside...., During a real ice age, it's quite different than our wild imagination. We imagine everything frozen and our oceans unchanged. The reality is that the global average temperature may go down 1 to 2 degrees which in many places we would not even feel it. The BIG change is in the areas where the average yearly temps are normally 32 to 34 degrees F., the average now can fall to 30-32 degrees so when there used to be a snow fall and thaw now the area starts to accumulate ice and snow in that area doesn't melt. That ties up the world supply of available water and forms glaciers and the ocean depths along the coast can drop as much as 200 feet because of all the frozen water! That's the continental shelf. I guess we'd build a ton of new beach front condos out there!!!
John

Focuspuller wrote:

We have been hearing about the demographic shift from White to non-White for YEARS, and yet the country seems to be moving more to the racist white christian nationalist right. This can only happen because democracy is dying in America. Let's face it - America was born with genetic defects - the Electoral College, slavery and the odious "three fifths rule", women as second class citizens, and a genocidal view of natives. Now we are seeing the specter of death in the malignant tumor on the body politic in trump, and his walking dead cult drones. Excising that poisonous growth will not be easy and may be very violent, I'm afraid.

None of this is in the least surprising! The birth of our nation was 100% white as far as citizens went. It's no wonder that there was so much racism from the very start and any non-whites were severely persecuted. Thomas Jefferson didn't start public education because he was being a nice guy, it was the only way the landowners and burgeoning industries could survive. It was clear that someone needed to work the fields and work in factories. Some of those needed to be literate to translate instructions to the workforce, thus public education was born. The educating of blacks and Native Americans came much later. Critical race theory was not invented, It was simply a way to quantify how racism permeates society at every level and it has a name which has since been used appropriated by the conservative racist to serve their campaign to gaslight the conservative uneducated that are gullible and easily brought into their fold. Easily to the point that they would readily attack our country's capital because they are so afraid of losing the good ole days when the whites in this country owned and ran the country. This ugly racists and Nazi way was always here it just needed a leader to organize them and give them hope that the good ole days could actually happen. Suddenly all those closeted racist came out in droves.
In the 1920's, far removed from the civil war almost 10% of our nations population where card carrying members of the KKK, how scary do you think THAT was if you were not white and especially in a fly-over state?
The way Trampo is organizing people to run in every state on his BIG LIE and trying to eliminate anyone that opposed him in any way is certainly paving the way to take control of the entire government. It'll be interesting to see what happens if all these people, all as stupid as Taylor-Green get elected and Trampo goes to prison? What are all those retards like Herschel Walker and Oz gonna do with not one lick of political experience between them??? Imagine running the most powerful country in the world when 25% of the legislature shares one brain?!?

John

John Silva Photography wrote:
None of this is in the least surprising! The birth of our nation was 100% white as far as citizens went. It's no wonder that there was so much racism from the very start and any non-whites were severely persecuted. Thomas Jefferson didn't start public education because he was being a nice guy, it was the only way the landowners and burgeoning industries could survive. It was clear that someone needed to work the fields and work in factories. Some of those needed to be literate to translate instructions to the workforce, thus public education was born. The educating of blacks and Native Americans came much later. Critical race theory was not invented, It was simply a way to quantify how racism permeates society at every level and it has a name which has since been used appropriated by the conservative racist to serve their campaign to gaslight the conservative uneducated that are gullible and easily brought into their fold. Easily to the point that they would readily attack our country's capital because they are so afraid of losing the good ole days when the whites in this country owned and ran the country. This ugly racists and Nazi way was always here it just needed a leader to organize them and give them hope that the good ole days could actually happen. Suddenly all those closeted racist came out in droves.
In the 1920's, far removed from the civil war almost 10% of our nations population where card carrying members of the KKK, how scary do you think THAT was if you were not white and especially in a fly-over state?
The way Trampo is organizing people to run in every state on his BIG LIE and trying to eliminate anyone that opposed him in any way is certainly paving the way to take control of the entire government. It'll be interesting to see what happens if all these people, all as stupid as Taylor-Green get elected and Trampo goes to prison? What are all those retards like Herschel Walker and Oz gonna do with not one lick of political experience between them??? Imagine running the most powerful country in the world when 25% of the legislature shares one brain?!?

John

1925 KKK March on Washington
https://allthatsinteresting.com/ku-klux … washington

I wonder how many people have seen these images




My Grandparents were alive at this time
My parents born not long after this

Focuspuller wrote:
"1925 KKK March on Washington
https://allthatsinteresting.com/ku-klux … washington "

And 92 years later:

https://mashable.com/article/racist-mar … lle-scenes

The KKK jhas been through 3 comings. They seen to happen about every 50 years. There was the original one that formed shortly after the Civil War for obvious reasons.
Then about 50 years later was the 1920's rise when the country seemed particularly vulnerable to white extremism.
The next was the 50's-60's and into the early 70's.
The Klan is probably nor needed anymore, probably a victim of the internet, Trampo's presidency brought all of the splintered little groups together and gave them a purpose, remember, "stand back and stand by"! Now they all came out of the closets and their mommies basements in droves, right on cue 50 years later. Only now wearing white robes is no longer an acceptable style. Now the the Nazi's, skinheads and KKK are reborn as Nationalist, Patriots, Constitutionalists, Militias, 3%s, Oathkeeprs and many other hate groups and as we saw on 1/6, they all came together for a common racist cause, they were done STANDING BY!
John

Focuspuller wrote:
"1925 KKK March on Washington
https://allthatsinteresting.com/ku-klux … washington "

And 92 years later:

https://mashable.com/article/racist-mar … lle-scenes

Trump's Endorsement after the event "Good People on both sides"

LightDreams wrote:
Trump supporters who donated their hard earned cash to Trump's "Save America" PAC, may have wondered how Trump was spending the money.

"Save America" is trumpspeak for "Save Trump", and FYI, Trumpspeak Dictionary on sale at Trump Presidential Library, aka Mar-a-Lago gift shop remainder bin.

DCurtis wrote:
despite all of Trump's short comings, the democrats don't have anyone better.

Other than that annoying little detail about trying to overthrow Democracy and remain President by any means necessary...

LightDreams wrote:
Trump supporters who donated their hard earned cash to Trump's "Save America" PAC, may have wondered how Trump was spending the money.

New FEC filings give us a clue (as uncovered by USA Today).



They took pains to explain in an email, that the monies, given to the French fashion designer, are for "strategy consulting services".

THAT'S how Trump is spending the hard earned money that his supporters donated to his "Save America" PAC.  At least according to his own (required) FEC filings.

how did the donars THINK he would spend their money? He's been stealing those poor dumber than rocks bastards money since he discovered, since he was president, that they would give him anything if he packages them as victims and he alone  can save their white existence and guns.
And then there are the poor miserable bastards that lost their life savings because they donated and DID NOT un-check the box in the fine print that they would repeat the donation every 24 hours till their accounts were drained!

At least if they had paid an American designer they could say that they were giving Americans much needed jobs! LoL
John

DCurtis wrote:
despite all of Trump's short comings, the democrats don't have anyone better.

They could run a stray dog and it would be better!!! At least it would NOT be a 4th generation criminal.
Joke...., what did Trampo say to the last whore he paid for sex....., stand back honey, I don't know how long this toadstool will get!!! LoL

Nowwww, stand back and stand by!!!!

John

Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
1925 KKK March on Washington
https://allthatsinteresting.com/ku-klux … washington

I wonder how many people have seen these images




My Grandparents were alive at this time
My parents born not long after this

So do you think all of these people watching were all sympathizers and there for support? They don't look particularly outraged!?

What KKK event was Trampos father arrested at???
John

DCurtis wrote:
despite all of Trump's short comings, the democrats don't have anyone better.

That is hilarious. There is no democrat at ANY level, from Governor to Senator to Congessperson to Mayor to FUCKING DOGCATCHER who isn't orders of magnitude a better HUMAN BEING than the odious pile of shit you call "trump."