Forums > Photography Talk > Strobists w/SB-800 thread

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LaPuma

Posts: 377

Bell, Florida, US

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Hey y'all,

  I would like to have a thread geared towards the strobist who uses sb-800 flashes or the equivalent for there strobe work.

  I would like to see pics of what your set-ups are and how you use them as well as photos to back them up.

  I have read alot of what is on the strobist site and already own one sb-800. I have yet to tap into its amazing uses. But I plan to.  smile

So if you would, please post any pics of your set-ups, describe them and explain why you think it works or dont work. What can be improved and what lessons you have learned.

Thanks,
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Jan 06 08 07:01 pm Link

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Bobby Mozumder

Posts: 4007

Rockville, Connecticut, US

LaPuma wrote:
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Hey y'all,

  I would like to have a thread geared towards the strobist who uses sb-800 flashes or the equivalent for there strobe work.

  I would like to see pics of what your set-ups are and how you use them as well as photos to back them up.

  I have read alot of what is on the strobist site and already own one sb-800. I have yet to tap into its amazing uses. But I plan to.  smile

So if you would, please post any pics of your set-ups, describe them and explain why you think it works or dont work. What can be improved and what lessons you have learned.

Thanks,
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It's pretty much the greatest flash ever made.  It only needs some more power.

Jan 06 08 07:04 pm Link

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FusionMediaCo

Posts: 537

Miami, Florida, US

the images of murar in my port were done with a sb800 in a softbox. I love my an but it needs more power and consistency. I prefer studio strokes whenever possible. I like what the strobist is all about for a hobbyist but you can't always do the job on the cheap with tape, and glue.

Jan 06 08 07:59 pm Link

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FMfoto

Posts: 1577

Los Angeles, California, US

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/F16FOTO/Melissa129-sb24web.jpg
Nikon SB24 @1/8 power • Pocket Wizard & Zip Lock (forgot my grip gear!) • Sony DSC-R1 • iso400 • f6.3-  1/30"

ps. i still haven't figured out how to use my D200 / SB800 WIRELESS tongue

ps.ps.  Why doesn't Canon have a PC connection on their speedlights?!?

Jan 06 08 08:05 pm Link

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LaPuma

Posts: 377

Bell, Florida, US

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Where was it placed? behind her to the left?(her right)

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Jan 06 08 08:07 pm Link

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FMfoto

Posts: 1577

Los Angeles, California, US

LaPuma wrote:
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Where was it placed? behind her to the left?(her right)

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just where you see the light source coming from... photo-left (her right) 
the background you see behind her is a vaulted/slanted ceiling (i'm shooting up at her laying down on the floor)

Jan 06 08 08:11 pm Link

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LaPuma

Posts: 377

Bell, Florida, US

FARLEY MAGADIA wrote:

just where you see the light source coming from... photo-left (her right) 
the background you see behind her is a vaulted/slanted ceiling (i'm shooting up at her laying down on the floor)

Cool

Thanks,
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Jan 06 08 08:12 pm Link

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Caradoc

Posts: 19900

Scottsdale, Arizona, US

The first three images in my portfolio are all lit with 2 remote SB-800s, using an additional SB-800 on-camera as a Commander.

Jan 06 08 08:19 pm Link

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Alto Cirrus

Posts: 3

Hampton, New Jersey, US

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/ittlslave.htm   Sorry if I did this wrong my first post. I read this yesterday and can now use my SB600 on D80 wireless.

Jan 06 08 11:21 pm Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

I use SB-600's, not all that much different from SB-800's. Fun little things.

https://www.blindmike.com/images/20080102004250_jessie4.jpg

Single SB-600 shot through a 24" diffuser from frame top right. Fired via PWs.

https://www.blindmike.com/images/20061003005436_sf07_full.jpg

2 SB-600's bare from frame top left. Fired and metered via CLS.

https://www.blindmike.com/images/20070206000952_jacqui01_full.jpg

A little bit of everything. Porty w/ 28" softbox from frame top right, Litepac w/ 60" & 48" umbrellas from frame left & right, SB-600 bare from frame rear left (the big sparkly thing). Fired via PWs.

Jan 06 08 11:41 pm Link

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Flashback Visions

Posts: 57

Torrance, California, US

Photos 1,3,5,6,8, 10, 11, 13, 14, 16 and 17 on my port are SB-800 CLS based.

Different setups, different number of units and modes.

Jan 06 08 11:54 pm Link

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Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

Using SB-800's for Strobist work is like taking a gun to a knife fight.

Vivitar 285 and Sunpak 383 have almost the same GN for 1/4 the price, which allows for a decent flash meter.

Jan 07 08 12:12 am Link

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TinyTitan

Posts: 569

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

FARLEY MAGADIA wrote:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/F16FOTO/Melissa129-sb24web.jpg
Nikon SB24 @1/8 power • Pocket Wizard & Zip Lock (forgot my grip gear!) • Sony DSC-R1 • iso400 • f6.3-  1/30"

ps. i still haven't figured out how to use my D200 / SB800 WIRELESS tongue

ps.ps.  Why doesn't Canon have a PC connection on their speedlights?!?

Actually I am doing the reserve now, I want to move away from the Nikon wireless to the pocket wizards. Nikon Wireless is a Infrared system, so in the end it needs Line of sight(mostly) Radio can at least get through some walls and some of the more usually placements.

Most of my flash work is with the SB800

Jan 07 08 12:55 am Link

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RS Livingston

Posts: 2086

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Maybe a little off topic but,
where did the term "strobist" come from?

Jan 07 08 12:57 am Link

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DeVaul Photography

Posts: 702

Chagrin Falls, Ohio, US

Check out www.daveblackphotography.com

Click on "workshops at the ranch"  Dave Black is a Nikon guy, he tests out their equipment before it is released(I think either the D300 or D3).  He uses anywhere from one SB800 to multiple ones in his tutorials.

ps also check out "on the road"

Jan 07 08 12:58 am Link

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chiamac

Posts: 854

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/070913/22/46ea012154cac_m.jpg

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/071123/02/47467d4e39cf0_m.jpg

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/071001/01/470081ea20482_m.jpg

and those were taken with some 25 year old vivitars - just think what a new SB800 will do!

Jan 07 08 01:04 am Link

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Diamond Digital

Posts: 121

Lansing, Illinois, US

i love my sb 800 wireless !!!! I want more

Jan 07 08 01:09 am Link

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Diamond Digital

Posts: 121

Lansing, Illinois, US

Ralph Livingston wrote:
Maybe a little off topic but,
where did the term "strobist" come from?

It's website. Google it . I would post the URl but not sure if thats allowed

Jan 07 08 01:10 am Link

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Diamond Digital

Posts: 121

Lansing, Illinois, US

BlindMike wrote:
I use SB-600's, not all that much different from SB-800's. Fun little things.

https://www.blindmike.com/images/20080102004250_jessie4.jpg

Single SB-600 shot through a 24" diffuser from frame top right. Fired via PWs.

https://www.blindmike.com/images/20061003005436_sf07_full.jpg

2 SB-600's bare from frame top left. Fired and metered via CLS.

https://www.blindmike.com/images/20070206000952_jacqui01_full.jpg

A little bit of everything. Porty w/ 28" softbox from frame top right, Litepac w/ 60" & 48" umbrellas from frame left & right, SB-600 bare from frame rear left (the big sparkly thing). Fired via PWs.

Dude those are some super cool shots smile thanks for sharing

Jan 07 08 01:12 am Link

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Diamond Digital

Posts: 121

Lansing, Illinois, US

FARLEY MAGADIA wrote:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/F16FOTO/Melissa129-sb24web.jpg
Nikon SB24 @1/8 power • Pocket Wizard & Zip Lock (forgot my grip gear!) • Sony DSC-R1 • iso400 • f6.3-  1/30"

ps. i still haven't figured out how to use my D200 / SB800 WIRELESS tongue

ps.ps.  Why doesn't Canon have a PC connection on their speedlights?!?

Farley I can't wait to see what you do when you figure out how to use the d200 and your speedlights. By the way you know there is a house music song that has your first name repeating in it, back in the day (1988) house music fans from Chicago would chant that name while it was played.

Jan 07 08 01:18 am Link

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M_M_P

Posts: 3410

Seattle, Washington, US

All but one of the images in my portfolio uses a combination of up to six of these types of flash units. Mine have digital control over an eight stop range and I use them paired or quadrupled up at times to get an extra stop or two by gaffer taping them together (1 pair doubles output for 1 stop more light, 2 pairs quadruples light output for 2 stops more). Typically, I have a pair for a key light with silver umbrella, a pair for a background light gaffertaped to a speedotron 7inch reflector with 30 degree grid, a single unit gaffer taped to another 7 inch reflector with either a 10 or 30 degree grid for hairlight/highlighting and another single unit for any additional effects that I may need. The flash units taped to reflectors are set to 24mm focal length so that the reflector can shape the light more than the lens of the flash unit. If you are creative, you can tape these types of flash units to just about any modifier that you could want. Coupled with good modifiers, the sky is the limit!

The following shot is one of my favorites as lighting goes. The spot on the ground is from a pair of flash units with a 7 inch reflector and 30 degree grid attached to a makeshift boom stand. The light on the model was with a shoot through umbrella and a single flash unit.

https://modelmayhm-9.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/070909/21/46e4a69fd2c8f_m.jpg

Jan 07 08 01:35 am Link

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Mark Susan

Posts: 95

Phoenix, Arizona, US

FARLEY MAGADIA wrote:
ps.ps.  Why doesn't Canon have a PC connection on their speedlights?!?

This is SO true!!  I hate using hotshoe adaptors...

Jan 07 08 01:46 am Link

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Jefferson Dorsey

Posts: 648

Nashville, Tennessee, US

I usually use studio flash (white lightnings), but I can't always carry them around or get them into tight spaces, like the example below.  This was my first attempt at "strobist" lighting with 2 SB800's and 1 SB80-DX (triggered with pocket wizards):

https://modelmayhm-2.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/071224/11/476fdb2f8626a_m.jpg

Jan 07 08 02:35 am Link

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FMfoto

Posts: 1577

Los Angeles, California, US

Diamond Digital wrote:
Farley I can't wait to see what you do when you figure out how to use the d200 and your speedlights. By the way you know there is a house music song that has your first name repeating in it, back in the day (1988) house music fans from Chicago would chant that name while it was played.

lol. thanks for that comment smile
I'm actually just too lazy to read all these manuals!!  I've aquired alot of electronic gear in the last year or so, and every frickin one has at least a 100 pg. manual and 1000 features!! lol. ie: dslrs, pocket cams, surround recievers, cell phones, gadgets gadgets! etc. 

My point is just keeping it simple. I know the SB800's capabilities and briefly played with it wirelessly.  I have Canon 580ex' s as well with the ST-whatever transmitter and it works surprisingly well.  But I'd rather treat them like little studio strobes... just gimme 1/2 power here, and 1/8th there on 'MANUAL' mode and I know that the lighting will be consistant.

I use to completely trust PROGRAM mode for everything,  but except for casual snapshots, I don't feel comfortable unless I'm shooting on MANUAL now!

Jan 07 08 04:07 am Link

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SLE Photography

Posts: 68937

Orlando, Florida, US

Ralph Livingston wrote:
Maybe a little off topic but,
where did the term "strobist" come from?

Sounds better than "Flasher"  lol

Jan 07 08 07:34 am Link

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Caradoc

Posts: 19900

Scottsdale, Arizona, US

Diamond Digital wrote:

It's website. Google it . I would post the URl but not sure if thats allowed

I've posted the URLs for the Strobist Blog, Strobist Flickr Group, and the Nikon CLS Flickr Grouprepeatedly and haven't been brigged or even warned for it, so I don't see a problem there.

Jan 07 08 08:57 am Link

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Joe Alcantar

Posts: 438

Beaumont, California, US

Hey Mike, experimenting with Commander mode myself and had Heidi model for me.  Shoot was quick, about 45 minutes and got what I wanted.
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https://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l98/joealcantar/Portraits/DSC_0460FTW600.jpg?t=1199716256
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https://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l98/joealcantar/Portraits/ESC_0600ftw.jpg?t=1199716956
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SB-800 behind a panel to soften the light and reflector for fill.  Key thing is being able to control the flash output from camera location.  I'm starting to shoot more photos of my setups , good for reference and helping out in explanations.  Besides we do have to have records of what gear we have for insurance purposes. Hope that helped.

Jan 07 08 09:46 am Link

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Vision Images by Jake

Posts: 595

Stockton, California, US

https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/071221/23/476c97356078d_m.jpg https://img5.modelmayhem.com/061121/20/4563bc4bbf7ae_m.jpg

https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/070923/13/46f69e9826f81_m.jpg https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/071222/00/476c9b965d3b4_m.jpg

I use a total of six, and I am getting ready to purchase a seventh. They're great! I use them for all my remote shooting, in the woods, mounted on monopods in a lake or up on a boom through the tree tops. No Compliants, the wireless features have and outstanding range, and with the use of the SU-800 the range increases, I believe it is up to 63 feet on both sides of the SU-800. And they or quite powerful and fast.

That's my two cents! Enjoy!

Jake

Jan 07 08 09:54 am Link

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Newzpix

Posts: 662

Manassas, Georgia, US

David Hobby (The Strobist) is a member here. Perhaps you can lure him into this thread.

Jan 07 08 10:06 am Link

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JaysonPolansky com

Posts: 816

Sedona, Arizona, US

All but 3 of the images in my MM Portfolio are shot with a single SB-800 (or sb-26) through a 42" umbrella.
https://modelmayhem.com/pics.php?id=100050

Jan 07 08 10:06 am Link

Photographer

Anthony Cole

Posts: 299

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Joe Alcantar wrote:
Hey Mike, experimenting with Commander mode myself and had Heidi model for me.  Shoot was quick, about 45 minutes and got what I wanted.
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https://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l98/joealcantar/Portraits/DSC_0460FTW600.jpg?t=1199716256
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https://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l98/joealcantar/Portraits/ESC_0600ftw.jpg?t=1199716956
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SB-800 behind a panel to soften the light and reflector for fill.  Key thing is being able to control the flash output from camera location.  I'm starting to shoot more photos of my setups , good for reference and helping out in explanations.  Besides we do have to have records of what gear we have for insurance purposes. Hope that helped.

Well done.....Thanks for sharing

Jan 07 08 10:08 am Link

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Stuart Photography

Posts: 5938

Tampa, Florida, US

Taken in the last week:

D2X, 3 SB 800s, Su-800 commander. lumiquest snoots. All off camera. Flashes set on manual.

https://modelmayhm-1.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080107/08/47822956f3ce9_m.jpg

https://modelmayhm-1.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080107/08/4782299d23f12_m.jpg

https://modelmayhm-1.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080106/17/478150d2d6c49_m.jpg

over 18 -

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … id=5203351

Jan 07 08 11:02 am Link

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Madcrow Photographics

Posts: 7805

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Great stuff. Does anybody know if the current models of off-camera TTL cords work with old-fashioned (pre-digital) TTL flashes or did Nikon change the wiring in ways that make them incompatible?

Jan 07 08 11:05 am Link

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FMfoto

Posts: 1577

Los Angeles, California, US

Madcrow Studios wrote:
Great stuff. Does anybody know if the current models of off-camera TTL cords work with old-fashioned (pre-digital) TTL flashes or did Nikon change the wiring in ways that make them incompatible?

the SC17 replacement SC29 cord still works older SB's, what's nice is the quick lock and an AF Assist light where you mount to the camera's hot shoe.

Jan 07 08 11:09 am Link

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Madcrow Photographics

Posts: 7805

Boston, Massachusetts, US

FARLEY MAGADIA wrote:

the SC17 replacement SC29 cord still works older SB's, what's nice is the quick lock and an AF Assist light where you mount to the camera's hot shoe.

Awesome... Now I just have to decide whether it's worth getting one for my old SB-15 or if should upgrade to a SB-24/6/8 (or even save my pennies for a 600 or 800 in anticipation of someday going digital)

Jan 07 08 11:22 am Link

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alveraz

Posts: 257

Los Angeles, California, US

All of my headshots are done with one SB-600 off camera. That's all I use, and I love the results.

Jan 07 08 11:23 am Link

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Springbok Designs

Posts: 873

Santa Cruz, California, US

I have 4 SB-600's, all my shots in my port are shot using a combination of these when on location. I have a huge assortment of modifiers that I can chose from depending on the shot.  I like the portablilty of the setup.  I trigger all my strobes with Pocket Wizards (held in place of course using the hildozine caddy). 

I have more images posted in my Flickr page http://www.flickr.com/photos/8390236@N03/
most of the images have a description of the setup that was used.

Jan 07 08 12:40 pm Link

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reWindDIGITAL

Posts: 30

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Every photo in my port has been lit with a mix of SB-800s, SB-600s and SB-R200s. I love these lights!! I can go anywhere and set up quickly. Very handy when you're shooting "on the run" so to speak....   ;-)

Jan 07 08 02:17 pm Link

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Hamza

Posts: 7791

New York, New York, US

FusionMediaCo wrote:
the images of murar in my port were done with a sb800 in a softbox. I love my an but it needs more power and consistency. I prefer studio strokes whenever possible. I like what the strobist is all about for a hobbyist but you can't always do the job on the cheap with tape, and glue.

Consistency?!?!?!?

You're kidding right?

Needing more power I can understand, but CONSISTENCY?

Please explain HOW it is inconsistent...

Jan 07 08 02:24 pm Link

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Hamza

Posts: 7791

New York, New York, US

FARLEY MAGADIA wrote:
ps. i still haven't figured out how to use my D200 / SB800 WIRELESS tongue

ps.ps.  Why doesn't Canon have a PC connection on their speedlights?!?

Read the manual, I know it's against your religion, but it's worth th hour it will take!

Ask Canon!

Jan 07 08 02:26 pm Link