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Photographer

JRW UK

Posts: 131

London, England, United Kingdom

Hey all,

Just wondering which light modifiers you consider to be absolutely essential kit. Yeah, I know it'll depend upon what the shot calls for, but just give me an idea please of the kit you find you just can't live without wink

Thanks!

May 06 08 02:55 pm Link

Photographer

Leroy Dickson

Posts: 8239

Flint, Michigan, US

Studio .. location?

May 06 08 02:58 pm Link

Photographer

Thyronne

Posts: 1361

Huntington Beach, California, US

I love me some grid spots.

May 06 08 03:00 pm Link

Photographer

JRW UK

Posts: 131

London, England, United Kingdom

Leroy Dickson wrote:
Studio .. location?

Doesn't matter - I'm after the stuff that you use again and again and again.  I'm asking because I have a long list of gear I would like, but I'm going to have to prioritise.

May 06 08 03:02 pm Link

Photographer

Rob Domaschuk

Posts: 5715

Naperville, Illinois, US

Leroy Dickson wrote:
Studio .. location?

Jim Berriman wrote:
Doesn't matter - I'm after the stuff that you use again and again and again.  I'm asking because I have a long list of gear I would like, but I'm going to have to prioritise.

Actually, it does matter:

  * There is stuff that is absolutely essential in
     a studio but absolutely irrelevant in the field.

  * There is stuff that is absolutely essential when shooting nudes
     but pointless when shooting macro.

etc. Would love to help, but need more details about what you shoot and how you shoot.

May 06 08 03:07 pm Link

Photographer

JRW UK

Posts: 131

London, England, United Kingdom

Rob Domaschuk wrote:

Leroy Dickson wrote:
Studio .. location?

Actually, it does matter:

  * There is stuff that is absolutely essential in
     a studio but absolutely irrelevant in the field.

  * There is stuff that is absolutely essential when shooting nudes
     but pointless when shooting macro.

etc. Would love to help, but need more details about what you shoot and how you shoot.

OK wink

Let's try location fashion shooting smile

May 06 08 03:10 pm Link

Photographer

Shelby Chan Photography

Posts: 560

New York, New York, US

-Beauty dish
-Grids

May 06 08 03:17 pm Link

Photographer

Adam_A

Posts: 1113

Redding, California, US

I virtually always use a 36x36" square SB for my mainlight.

May 06 08 03:17 pm Link

Photographer

JRW UK

Posts: 131

London, England, United Kingdom

Shelby Chan Photography wrote:
-Beauty dish
-Grids

Both on my list - thanks wink

May 06 08 03:25 pm Link

Photographer

JRW UK

Posts: 131

London, England, United Kingdom

Adam_A wrote:
I virtually always use a 36x36" square SB for my mainlight.

Yup - got one of those, well a metre square one smile

May 06 08 03:25 pm Link

Photographer

Casi Sandeman

Posts: 25

Orlando, Florida, US

Almost 70% of the work in my port is done with a reflector. They're the sweetest.

May 06 08 03:27 pm Link

Photographer

JRW UK

Posts: 131

London, England, United Kingdom

Casi Sandeman wrote:
Almost 70% of the work in my port is done with a reflector. They're the sweetest.

A big one, like a Skylight, or a collapsable round one?

May 06 08 03:29 pm Link

Photographer

Fotticelli

Posts: 12252

Rockville, Maryland, US

This is very subjective. Get one of each and try which one you like best.

Some photographers love softboxes some think they suck and wouldn't touch one with a ten foot boom arm.

I like working with reflected light so you could say that my favorite light modifier is my studio wall.

May 06 08 03:32 pm Link

Photographer

Daniel Garay

Posts: 1281

Los Angeles, California, US

I second the beauty dish.

collapsible round reflectors too.

May 06 08 03:33 pm Link

Photographer

JRW UK

Posts: 131

London, England, United Kingdom

Fotticelli wrote:
This is very subjective. Get one of each and try which one you like best.

Some photographers love softboxes some think they suck and wouldn't touch one with a ten foot boom arm.

I like working with reflected light so you could say that my favorite light modifier is my studio wall.

Yes, this is all very subjective, but you have mentioned your favourite "tool" and that's the point of this thread - thanks smile

May 06 08 03:34 pm Link

Photographer

Andrew Thomas Evans

Posts: 24079

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Jim Berriman wrote:
Hey all,

Just wondering which light modifiers you consider to be absolutely essential kit. Yeah, I know it'll depend upon what the shot calls for, but just give me an idea please of the kit you find you just can't live without wink

Thanks!

Depends...

I can't live without umbrellas! Those are key, silver ones at that.

In the studio I can't live without 3 gridded strip softboxes, and a few sets of grids on 2-3 other lights.

May 06 08 03:35 pm Link

Photographer

Casi Sandeman

Posts: 25

Orlando, Florida, US

Jim Berriman wrote:

A big one, like a Skylight, or a collapsable round one?

Collapsable, although I would like to get a larger one in the near future.

May 06 08 03:35 pm Link

Photographer

ChanStudio

Posts: 9219

Alpharetta, Georgia, US

Silver/gold collapsible reflectors (have several sizes 52"+, 48", 32", etc).  Beauty Dish, large Softbox (yeap, I use softbox at times).  grids, snoots, Hell, I even bounce lights from strobes to reflectors.  That photek II lsoftlighter works great too.

May 06 08 03:36 pm Link

Photographer

JRW UK

Posts: 131

London, England, United Kingdom

Casi Sandeman wrote:

Collapsable, although I would like to get a larger one in the near future.

Don't we all?

I too need to scale up.  I've got a sunfire/white one at the mo.

May 06 08 03:37 pm Link

Photographer

Why Dangle

Posts: 2791

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

A white brolly.

May 06 08 03:41 pm Link

Photographer

Franko Photo

Posts: 1622

San Jose, California, US

Daniel Garay wrote:
I second the beauty dish.

collapsible round reflectors too.

oops - i thought that was one in the same.... the beauty dish - is a ring flash?

May 06 08 03:43 pm Link

Photographer

R Michael Walker

Posts: 11987

Costa Mesa, California, US

Beauty Dish, grids, barn Doors and Diffusers from Silks to gels. Also Flags and scrims. Oh..and a ringlight..though it's not TRULY a modifier to me it is. And grids or diffusers on it too.

May 06 08 03:46 pm Link

Photographer

Lumondo Photography

Posts: 779

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Jim Berriman wrote:
Hey all,

Just wondering which light modifiers you consider to be absolutely essential kit. Yeah, I know it'll depend upon what the shot calls for, but just give me an idea please of the kit you find you just can't live without wink

Thanks!

Beauty dish and grids. Grids on everything.

May 06 08 03:48 pm Link

Photographer

JRW UK

Posts: 131

London, England, United Kingdom

Anzalone Photography wrote:

oops - i thought that was one in the same.... the beauty dish - is a ring flash?

A beauty dish is one of these:

http://www.bowens.co.uk/catalog/product … 9fa6b5c201

May 06 08 03:48 pm Link

Photographer

Julian Marsalis

Posts: 1191

Austin, Texas, US

Whats the big difference in the lighting beauty dish vs softbox of the same size???

May 06 08 04:48 pm Link

Photographer

Eduardo Frances

Posts: 3227

Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain

honeycomb grids smile those are a must big_smile

May 06 08 06:27 pm Link

Photographer

JRW UK

Posts: 131

London, England, United Kingdom

Eduardo Frances wrote:
honeycomb grids smile those are a must big_smile

Oh yes, I'm with you on that one wink

May 07 08 03:49 pm Link

Photographer

Fleenor Photography

Posts: 135

Manhattan Beach, California, US

if i were you, i would rent or borrow different light shaping devices and do some tests to see what does what and what gives you the best style you are looking for. many times the simplest things produce the best results.

May 07 08 09:02 pm Link

Photographer

Eduardo Frances

Posts: 3227

Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain

Jim Berriman wrote:

Oh yes, I'm with you on that one wink

+300 points for that big_smile!

May 07 08 09:12 pm Link

Photographer

Kevin Connery

Posts: 17824

El Segundo, California, US

Julian Marsalis wrote:
Whats the big difference in the lighting beauty dish vs softbox of the same size???

Same shadow transfer region with a higher specularity and markedly different penumbra behavior. A silver-lined softbox of the same size with a thin diffusion screen gives similar but not identical results.

May 07 08 09:51 pm Link

Photographer

Tim Little Photography

Posts: 11771

Wilmington, Delaware, US

I just got a new radio trigger and 45 inch soft silver umbrella for location shooting. I'm looking forward to getting my flash off camera.

May 07 08 10:09 pm Link

Photographer

B R U N E S C I

Posts: 25319

Bath, England, United Kingdom

Julian Marsalis wrote:
Whats the big difference in the lighting beauty dish vs softbox of the same size???

Kevin Connery wrote:
Same shadow transfer region with a higher specularity and markedly different penumbra behavior. A silver-lined softbox of the same size with a thin diffusion screen gives similar but not identical results.

In non-technical terms I'd say that a BD gives a crisper, prettier light with softer-edged shadows assuming roughly the same diameter and distance from the subject. When you put it really close the sharp falloff tends to make skin 'glow' rather than glare as it can with a softbox. 

The fact that it's round rather than square also makes a difference and, of course, you get that nice round catchlight with the hole in the middle smile

May 07 08 10:11 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Shipstad

Posts: 4630

Burbank, California, US

I use so many.. but one of my favs is the white foam core from the art store.. There probably isn't a shoot I don't use at least one on. Especially with natural light. Love love love it.

May 07 08 10:12 pm Link

Photographer

Chi - Rue99 Photography

Posts: 1838

San Francisco, California, US

Although adding nothing to this thread, I'll go with grids too.

May 07 08 10:13 pm Link

Photographer

Gabrielle Geiselman

Posts: 1038

New Orleans, Louisiana, US

I personally could not live without an octabox.

I just love them

May 07 08 10:15 pm Link

Photographer

Ken Rieves Photography

Posts: 934

Avon Lake, Ohio, US

Jim Berriman wrote:

Oh yes, I'm with you on that one wink

Ditto. Love honeycomb grids. smile

May 07 08 10:19 pm Link

Photographer

Leroy Dickson

Posts: 8239

Flint, Michigan, US

Tim Little Photography wrote:
I just got a new radio trigger and 45 inch soft silver umbrella for location shooting. I'm looking forward to getting my flash off camera.

Get some HEAVY sand bags... trust me.

May 07 08 10:23 pm Link

Photographer

Ming Lo

Posts: 21

Los Angeles, California, US

beauty dish for any beauty
strip lights for anything in fashion
grids
soft box + lighttools grid
flags
4x10 foam core, again for anything with fashion, in black and white, often two taped together

May 08 08 12:25 am Link

Photographer

Conceptually Black

Posts: 8320

Columbus, Ohio, US

Casi Sandeman wrote:

Collapsable, although I would like to get a larger one in the near future.

I recently drooled over scoring 3 40"x60" collapsable ones... I'll be happy for awhile.

May 08 08 12:27 am Link

Photographer

FotoMark

Posts: 2978

Oxnard, California, US

For me softbox and umbrellas white shoot through and silver reflect.
On my to get list, grid spots, love those things

May 08 08 12:29 am Link