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What about the Jessica Alba debacle . . .
Does this tell us anything about the power of a model release? Apparently the agency who took the pictures had a relesae giving them rights to the pictures and they then sold them to Playboy. Right or no? Mar 04 06 07:44 am Link Well, if she signed the release after fully going over it and reading and understanding that they had the rights to do as they wished with the photos, then there is not much she can do. I kinda understand how she feels people will think she is actually in the magazine when she is not, butTHAT IS WHY YOU READ MODEL RELEASES and QUESTION ANYTHING you feel is shady. Mar 04 06 07:53 am Link Lens N Light wrote: There are certain types of releases that specifically outline when and how to use certain pictures. If she took pictures to go with a story on, let's say, a charity event, then those photos ought not be used as a cover as if to suggest that Playboy has nude photos of her which is the certain implication. Mar 04 06 08:00 am Link I know mine reads (paraphrased): All rights to edit, sell or display in any media or venue available to me (Lens N Light, Joe Longo and heirs and assigns) in perpetuity. Anyone who signs such a release needs to realize that if they suddenly become famous, those are valuable pictures to whomever owns the rights to them. Mar 04 06 08:08 am Link TheModelPhotographer wrote: That isn't necessarily true. A Model Release will allow the consideration to release imaging, but if the release of that imaging is deemed to cause harm or damage then that will take precedence over the release itself. Mar 04 06 08:35 am Link y'all really need to read the facts of this case. It has nothing to do with releases. The images were shot be a very well known photographer under "work for hire" rules, which means that the studio paid the photographer and owns the usage of the images. Celebrities don't need or sign releases for editorial work. I sell some celebrity images to stock agencies and never get a release. Editorial usage is not an issue. Do you think the folks who are in the National Enquirer sign releases for those images of them pumping gas? go to the website that broke the story and read all about it: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0228062alba1.html This is a very complicated case involving work for hire rights, permissions and possible alteration of the photo. Playboy will likely prevail and the funny thing is that the publicity has benefited both parties. When a person becomes a celebrity they loose some of the privacy protections that almost every MM or other model has. Mar 04 06 08:53 am Link There's something interesting going on here because of where the image came from. You guys are looking only at a photographer's release as you usually use one, but this image was originally furnished by Alba to a movie company [Sony] and for publicity purposes she would have signed a virtually all uses release for that underlying purpose. It is absolutely standard in that [movie] industry as well as for television. She also would have waved her publicity right in the same document, and most likely any right of approval. Indeed even appearing in the movie may have obligated her to furnish such images to Sony for the purpose. Sony, regardless of her present stance on this, OR their claims of total innocence vis a vis Playboy, would also have obtained that release to use the image in virtually an unlimited number of ways associated with the movie AND sub-license it for some consideration [publicising the movie] So as to Playboy, they sub-license the image from Sony and then mention the movie in the article, giving it publicity, as well as merely featuring Alba. When you get to the bottom line here, and when you read the letter from her lawyer posted in full on thesmokinggun.com, it is not about the Playboy cover it is about the $$$$$. The rest is all smoke and mirrors. Not to mention all the free publicity for the movie, for Playboy and for her Read between the lines and it is obvious that the whole lot of them are merely "putting the "show" in showbusiness" Studio36 Mar 04 06 09:13 am Link glenn usdin wrote: I agree, Glenn, to an extent. My comments went to Releases in general and not this particular case. However, there is a line of demarcation in editorial use as well and if a case goes before the bench, release or not, it will likely be viewed not from a release aspect, but whether there is harm to reputation or personal character/image in the use of the photos. Mar 04 06 09:29 am Link Probably just a case of one side or the other or both working together to get some free publicity. Mar 04 06 09:32 am Link I couldn't imagine Playboy and its attorneys not knowing the laws and how they would apply to something like this. My best guess is that either a judge would dismiss it right away or Playboy which has always been pretty classy would just not send the magazine out with her on the cover. Strange in my view that she would really care. She's not nude in the magazine but this has generated lots of buzz. Mar 04 06 09:42 am Link Tony Lawrence wrote: But not as much as a trialould. Mar 04 06 12:08 pm Link Come on people do you really think J-lo and Ben where in love, this is another media stunt. Mar 04 06 12:10 pm Link there is no such think as bad publicity Mar 04 06 08:48 pm Link Diana Moffitt wrote: It depends... Mar 04 06 09:10 pm Link WhoawhoaWHOA!! Jessica Alba? Photos?? Playboy??? Omygawd... where?! Mar 04 06 10:02 pm Link The real question is how quickly it will sell out? Will Playboy add a second printing? When can I get my copy? Bob Mar 04 06 11:56 pm Link I dont really care one way or the other, I just wanna see em,! that girl aint half bad! I really wish i hadnt turned down her offer of casual sex now! Mar 05 06 11:09 am Link Its not Jessica, its her Publicist most likley, getting her client's name seen and heard by over 50 million people within 48 hours. Brilliant. And ironically, Playboy will sell many more copies of the current issue. And they the sales too since they've been slipping recently. Mar 05 06 11:17 am Link jeffart wrote: I've only witnessed a few first-posts while I've been here at Mayhem. But out of those I've seen this is the best... Mar 05 06 06:13 pm Link Lens N Light wrote: I would have to say no. As mentioned by others, it's not the release, it's the usage that Sony provided. Did Playboy obtain directly from Sony? Was it in good faith (did they state for cover usage)? Who knows... Mar 05 06 06:29 pm Link Tony Lawrence wrote: It's wierd. In general I write my releases to allow to do almost anything I want, I dont resell images, but I could. You have legal issues the courts will work out (in theory) but than that there are moral issues. She doesnt want to be in Play Boy, play boy is showing her. This may be legal but it is low. I though play boy was suppose to be classy. Didnt hef once reply to a girl who asked what would my mother think, "we'll show them to her if she doesnt like them, we wont print them". I think play boy's classy rep is the only thing at stake here. Mar 05 06 06:44 pm Link |