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B Dani Photography

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Nashville, Tennessee, US

I was wondering how I can use Photoshop to make a model's skin tone look more like the after-shot.  What do I do?

https://modelmayhm-6.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081003/18/48e69f34aa9c9_m.jpg

May 02 09 09:00 pm Link

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Mike Stalnaker

Posts: 1881

Sarasota, Florida, US

I am no expert, but it looks like they just desaturated the yellows.

May 02 09 09:02 pm Link

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M Pandolfo Photography

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Tampa, Florida, US

There are a lot of ways but you can bet there is considerable dodging & burning as part of the process.

May 02 09 09:03 pm Link

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NewBoldPhoto

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PORT MURRAY, New Jersey, US

try curves
and tweak the reds... slightly

May 02 09 09:05 pm Link

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Angelo Lorenzo Photo

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Simi Valley, California, US

in Adobe Camera Raw, reduce the saturation of the orange channel and adjust orange luminosity to taste. This usually wrangles in most skintones before the dodging and burning process.

May 02 09 09:06 pm Link

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PixeldustPhoto

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Riverton, Utah, US

Michael Pandolfo wrote:
There are a lot of ways but you can bet there is considerable dodging & burning as part of the process.

+1

also depending on the skin/complexion, some heal/cloning.

May 02 09 09:07 pm Link

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MacLeod Designs

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Mooresville, North Carolina, US

the way i do that sort of thing is use vibrance in photoshop CS4 i bring up the vibrance and then desaturate from tehre...dont know if its the right way but thats what i figured has worked for me

May 02 09 09:08 pm Link

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NewBoldPhoto

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PORT MURRAY, New Jersey, US

MacLeod Designs wrote:
the way i do that sort of thing is use vibrance in photoshop CS4 i bring up the vibrance and then desaturate from tehre...dont know if its the right way but thats what i figured has worked for me

dear god.... there is a cs 4 out already????????????? christ!!!!!!!! I have not fully adapted to cs2 yet.

May 02 09 09:12 pm Link

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DVP Photography

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Broomfield, Colorado, US

Also looks to me like a bit of diffuse glow, effective when used sparingly.

May 02 09 09:12 pm Link

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CGI Images

Posts: 4989

Wichita, Kansas, US

Michael Pandolfo wrote:
There are a lot of ways but you can bet there is considerable dodging & burning as part of the process.

Along with proper color correction (I use icorrect portrait for skin tone)  and try some curves layers on luminosity mode too.

Thats the thing with photoshop, there are usually about 20 different ways to end up in the same place.  I'm sure others with much more expertise than I have will have better ideas.

May 02 09 09:13 pm Link

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B Dani Photography

Posts: 271

Nashville, Tennessee, US

Thank you for all the replies thus far.  As always, there is always at least 10 different ways do to something in Photoshop (I am using CS3).  What would I need to do differently if the model has dark skin tones if anything at all?

May 02 09 09:14 pm Link

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CGI Images

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Wichita, Kansas, US

NewBoldPhoto wrote:

dear god.... there is a cs 4 out already????????????? christ!!!!!!!! I have not fully adapted to cs2 yet.

I know, I even bought cs4 and went back to cs3.

May 02 09 09:14 pm Link

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StephenEastwood

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Great Neck, New York, US

start with a  hue sat adjustment layer with red at -40 then adjustment curves layer in luminosity to a contrast (S) curve, then some adjusting of contrast and burning in some areas for contour.

Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

May 02 09 09:14 pm Link

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CGI Images

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Wichita, Kansas, US

B Dani Photography wrote:
Thank you for all the replies thus far.  As always, there is always at least 10 different ways do to something in Photoshop (I am using CS3).  What would I need to do differently if the model has dark skin tones if anything at all?

What do you mean "dark skin tones" and what are you trying to achieve?

May 02 09 09:15 pm Link

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CGI Images

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Wichita, Kansas, US

StephenEastwood wrote:
start with a  hue sat adjustment layer with red at -40 then adjust curves in luminosity to a contrast curve, then some adjusting of contrast and burning in some areas for contour.

Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

**bowing to the master**  I just listened to a podcast featuring you by the way.  Nice stuff Stephen.

May 02 09 09:16 pm Link

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B Dani Photography

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Nashville, Tennessee, US

CGI Images wrote:
What do you mean "dark skin tones" and what are you trying to achieve?

By darker skin tones I mean an African-American person.  I just like the look of the skin in the example provided.  The after image just pops and looks more luminous than the before image, and that is sort of the look I am after.

May 02 09 09:19 pm Link

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StephenEastwood

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Great Neck, New York, US

CGI Images wrote:

**bowing to the master**  I just listened to a podcast featuring you by the way.  Nice stuff Stephen.

ahhhh.......  you should hear me sing, I am doing a Sinatra special next podcast  wink



Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

May 02 09 09:23 pm Link

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CGI Images

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Wichita, Kansas, US

StephenEastwood wrote:

ahhhh.......  you should hear me sing, I am doing a Sinatra special next podcast  wink



Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

Awesome, it was actually an interview on lightsource photogrpahy's podcasts.

May 02 09 09:27 pm Link

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CGI Images

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Wichita, Kansas, US

B Dani Photography wrote:

By darker skin tones I mean an African-American person.  I just like the look of the skin in the example provided.  The after image just pops and looks more luminous than the before image, and that is sort of the look I am after.

I think they key then would be in proper dodging and burning with the luminosity curves layers.  I've seen good stuff from using luminosity masks with curves too.

May 02 09 09:28 pm Link

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Terakawa

Posts: 580

Emeryville, California, US

StephenEastwood wrote:
start with a  hue sat adjustment layer with red at -40 then adjustment curves layer in luminosity to a contrast (S) curve, then some adjusting of contrast and burning in some areas for contour.

Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

Have you looked at what that image looks like at -40 red in a hue/sat layer?  Is that really where you suggest to start?

May 02 09 09:56 pm Link

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StephenEastwood

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Great Neck, New York, US

Terakawa wrote:
Have you looked at what that image looks like at -40 red in a hue/sat layer?

yes, with no dodging or burning just that and an s curve in luminosity looks like this linked which already starts to get close.  Add some more contrast and dodge the contours in and you are very close. 

http://www.StephenEastwood.com/crap/del … stcopy.jpg

so if I did not have a raw to use, yes, I could get that to match no problem starting there, since with two generics I am already close, and have yet to do any work but hit minus red and a small s curve.

Oh, and until you questioned it, I had not looked at it, I have just been doing it long enough to know this is how it would look.  hmm  and it did. 


Stephen Eastwood
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May 02 09 10:16 pm Link

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StephenEastwood

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Great Neck, New York, US

damn, looking at it again, just that change got this close: Left half only

before any added dodging or contouring or retouching.
https://www.stepheneastwood.com/crap/delete/sampletestcopycrop.jpg

its almost like I knew what I was talking about on my first guess neutral

add a tad more contrast in a non Luminosity layer which will increase the color a bit and you are even closer still.


Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

May 02 09 10:33 pm Link

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Jake Garn

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Salt Lake City, Utah, US

I would say start by reading the book Photoshop Artistry, that will get you proficient in  using curves and layers among lots of other color correction tools!

May 03 09 01:00 am Link

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WMcK

Posts: 5298

Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom

B Dani Photography wrote:
I was wondering how I can use Photoshop to make a model's skin tone look more like the after-shot.  What do I do?

https://modelmayhm-6.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081003/18/48e69f34aa9c9_m.jpg

That looks just like a case of different CTs, plus a litle bit of curves. Setting the curves to match the hair and skin tones, then applying the 82 PhotoFilter and adjusting the slider gets it quite close.

May 03 09 02:13 am Link

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MurphyMurphy Studios

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Denver, Colorado, US

I love threads like these!  Why?  because it shows how people with superior knowledge of photoshop can disagree as to the "secret sauce."  The end results will be very similar in all cases but the "sauce" will be different.  That is one of the coolest things about photography!

May 03 09 04:36 am Link

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bm bradley

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STUDIO CITY, California, US

Angelo Lorenzo Photo wrote:
in Adobe Camera Raw, reduce the saturation of the orange channel and adjust orange luminosity to taste. This usually wrangles in most skintones before the dodging and burning process.

thanks, just tried it out... smile

May 03 09 04:56 am Link

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bm bradley

Posts: 213

STUDIO CITY, California, US

B Dani Photography wrote:
I was wondering how I can use Photoshop to make a model's skin tone look more like the after-shot.  What do I do?

https://modelmayhm-6.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081003/18/48e69f34aa9c9_m.jpg

that's the 'magic question' among shooters and retouchers smile

May 03 09 04:57 am Link

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bm bradley

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STUDIO CITY, California, US

WMcK wrote:

That looks just like a case of different CTs, plus a litle bit of curves. Setting the curves to match the hair and skin tones, then applying the 82 PhotoFilter and adjusting the slider gets it quite close.

I generally use LAB to adjust the curves...  you tired that?

May 03 09 04:58 am Link

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Terakawa

Posts: 580

Emeryville, California, US

StephenEastwood wrote:

yes, with no dodging or burning just that and an s curve in luminosity looks like this linked which already starts to get close.  Add some more contrast and dodge the contours in and you are very close. 

http://www.StephenEastwood.com/crap/del … stcopy.jpg

so if I did not have a raw to use, yes, I could get that to match no problem starting there, since with two generics I am already close, and have yet to do any work but hit minus red and a small s curve.

Oh, and until you questioned it, I had not looked at it, I have just been doing it long enough to know this is how it would look.  hmm  and it did. 


Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

Bah, I was putting in -40 in red under hue instead of sat. Now its working.

May 03 09 08:50 am Link

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StephenEastwood

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Great Neck, New York, US

Terakawa wrote:

Bah, I was putting in -40 in red under hue instead of sat. Now its working.

Uh, yea, that looks like crap!  hmm

big_smile

Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

May 03 09 08:52 am Link

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WMcK

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Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom

bm bradley wrote:

I generally use LAB to adjust the curves...  you tired that?

Yes, I often use Lab, especially when adjusting saturation, as Lab does it without damaging the luminance values, unlike RGB.

May 03 09 09:19 am Link

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DAVcreative

Posts: 16

Miami, Florida, US

WMcK wrote:

Yes, I often use Lab, especially when adjusting saturation, as Lab does it without damaging the luminance values, unlike RGB.

ditto on the above.

i sometimes will use color balance with a mask on the skin only to do some adjusting so that it does not pull much in the background.

May 03 09 10:20 am Link

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Lynn Helms Photography

Posts: 382

Austin, Texas, US

Terakawa wrote:
Bah, I was putting in -40 in red under hue instead of sat. Now its working.

Yeah, no arguing with the Eastwood. It knows what it's talking about...smile

May 03 09 10:24 am Link