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Photographer

Rafael Telles

Posts: 1375

Brampton, Ontario, Canada

Question for Photoshop Wizards and expert retouchers out there. I am trying new retouching styles and I am stuck trying to achieve a specific look in a picture. In short, I want to know if if it possible to convert Pic#1 into the style of Pic#2? I know light, skin tan, makeup on Pic#2 was a lot to do with how the image end up looking, but I also know there is alot that can be done in Photoshop.. I am interested in the overall colour effect, and how the rocks pop out in #2.

Pic#1
https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3455/3843571310_2c02b692c8_o_d.jpg

Pic#2
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/090630/19/4a4accc73a0e6_m.jpg

Thanks!

Aug 21 09 12:27 pm Link

Photographer

Tytaniafairy

Posts: 4520

Evansville, Indiana, US

It looks like the exposure was played with , and perhaps the tonal level and then dodging and burning . I would think they desaturated the skin a bit as well .

In other words I think they went in and took any red out of the skin . Desaturated a bit . Did a overhaul of the skin , with clone tool and healing brush . Then did the above and probably fine tuned the overall color .

Aug 21 09 12:30 pm Link

Photographer

J Gagnon

Posts: 810

Manchester, New Hampshire, US

Dodging and burning

Aug 21 09 12:30 pm Link

Photographer

gzone

Posts: 963

Lancaster, California, US

I'm sure just need to play with it.

Aug 21 09 12:34 pm Link

Photographer

Digital Dragon

Posts: 420

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Some things are possible others not so much.  Getting the rocks to pop would be off since the distance between the model and the rocks is different in the two pictures.  The skin tone and retouching style is mostly photoshop.  I see some dodging and burning maybe some liquify and curves adjustments.  Pretty basic stuff.  Just play around and you should be able to get something close.

Aug 21 09 12:38 pm Link

Photographer

Jeff Fiore

Posts: 9225

Brooklyn, New York, US

Google Amy Dresser. She has a technique to get that shine on the skin, it looks like her technique. She has a PSD file you can download with the layers intact so you can see her technique.

You can also see the link below...
https://secure.modelmayhem.com/po.php?t … 161&page=1

Aug 21 09 12:48 pm Link

Digital Artist

Mac is Live

Posts: 2340

Bermuda Dunes, California, US

I agree with the tonal effects and dodging and burning. I think the last step is a stamp visible layer with a photo filter of blue on it. Just to balance the foreground and background a bit.

Aug 21 09 01:06 pm Link

Photographer

Rafael Telles

Posts: 1375

Brampton, Ontario, Canada

Jeff Fiore wrote:
Google Amy Dresser. She has a technique to get that shine on the skin, it looks like her technique. She has a PSD file you can download with the layers intact so you can see her technique.

You can also see the link below...
https://secure.modelmayhem.com/po.php?t … 161&page=1

Thank you very much Jeff, I just downloaded the PSD and took a glimpse at the layers. I think this is exactly what I was looking for. Darn, 3 layers just for dodging! And I thought I was going a bit overboard doing 2 separate layers for non-destructive dodge and burning smile

Aug 21 09 01:08 pm Link

Photographer

Rafael Telles

Posts: 1375

Brampton, Ontario, Canada

Mac is Lost wrote:
I agree with the tonal effects and dodging and burning. I think the last step is a stamp visible layer with a photo filter of blue on it. Just to balance the foreground and background a bit.

When you mean stamp visible layer are you referring to "ALT + CTL + DEL + E" then applying a blue photofilter to all of it or mask and paint just the foreground?

Aug 21 09 01:10 pm Link

Photographer

MisterC

Posts: 15162

Portland, Oregon, US

Yes, it can. But the models pose is important for the feel of the image too.

Her interesting and semi-serious pose lend to the desaturated tones.

You'd also want to drop in a shadow, like pic number two. It's not always so simple as a color and contrast change. Every element in a image lend to it's overall success or failure.

Aug 21 09 01:10 pm Link

Digital Artist

Mac is Live

Posts: 2340

Bermuda Dunes, California, US

Rafael Telles wrote:
When you mean stamp visible layer are you referring to "ALT + CTL + DEL + E" then applying a blue photofilter to all of it or mask and paint just the foreground?

Yes exactly. If you notice on the second image the tones are cooler on both model and environment.

Aug 21 09 01:11 pm Link

Photographer

d00dle

Posts: 162

move the model closer to the rock. look like the light couldn't reach that far.

Aug 21 09 01:11 pm Link

Photographer

Alfiere

Posts: 1562

Scottsdale, Arizona, US

yes its quite possible.. i am not gonna but you can PM me if you wish to take advantage of my retouching services.

Aug 21 09 01:12 pm Link

Digital Artist

Mac is Live

Posts: 2340

Bermuda Dunes, California, US

Mac is Lost wrote:

Yes exactly. If you notice on the second image the tones are cooler on both model and environment.

My other suggestion and I'm sure somebody will chirp up about it, is once you've applied the filter, duplicate the layer and do a high pass. Desaturate the highpass layer, blendmode to either soft or hard light (or linear light if you know how to be sneaky with it). Play with the brightness contrast a bit. But create a mask and start brushing away the surfaces of the high pass layer, leaving the edges alone to really get some deeper definition in there without damaging skin tones.

Aug 21 09 01:19 pm Link

Photographer

Rafael Telles

Posts: 1375

Brampton, Ontario, Canada

d00dle wrote:
move the model closer to the rock. look like the light couldn't reach that far.

I actually used 2 lights and 2 reflectors for this photo. 1 light and medium gold reflector were used on the model and 1 light and huge white reflector where used to illuminate the background. The model did not wanted to get wet with the waterfall so she was about  1.5 to 2 meters in front of the background. The background was completely dark if I did not used lights specifically to light it up.

Aug 21 09 01:30 pm Link

Retoucher

Pedro P Polakoff III

Posts: 280

Fairfax, Virginia, US

Rafael Telles wrote:
Question for Photoshop Wizards and expert retouchers out there. I am trying new retouching styles and I am stuck trying to achieve a specific look in a picture. In short, I want to know if if it possible to convert Pic#1 into the style of Pic#2? I know light, skin tan, makeup on Pic#2 was a lot to do with how the image end up looking, but I also know there is alot that can be done in Photoshop.. I am interested in the overall colour effect, and how the rocks pop out in #2.

Pic#1
https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3455/3843571310_2c02b692c8_o_d.jpg

Pic#2
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/090630/19/4a4accc73a0e6_m.jpg

Thanks!

Yes, without a doubt.  If you'd like send me the original (RAW preferred) at http://www.ppp3photo.com/scripts/uploadimages.asp and I'll have a layered TIF for you to learn from available for download within a few hours (perhaps a day or two). Just remember to fill in the fields in RED so I know who it belongs to.

Aug 21 09 01:36 pm Link

Photographer

iHartPhotos

Posts: 1263

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Your target look is a great shot.
This was about as close as I could come in 10minutes... not that I think I could get much closer with more time.

A lot of processes are hard to replicate. I could never reproduce one of of my own shots by looking at it... I would need to look at teh PSD.

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3477/3843862777_c06e4e2f0e_o.jpg

Aug 21 09 09:03 pm Link