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Photographer

Umar

Posts: 1185

New York, New York, US

Photoshop mavericks and experts. Can any one of you show how you can make the following lips glossy and lustreous along with directions. Please post the before and after of you work. Thanks a bunch in advance.

https://ruabbasi.streetwhispers.com/mm/glosslips.jpg

Oct 22 09 09:07 am Link

Photographer

Umar

Posts: 1185

New York, New York, US

Seems no one sad

Oct 22 09 09:27 am Link

Retoucher

Natalia_Taffarel

Posts: 7665

Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Argentina

To get something like this http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/wp-con … d-lips.jpg

you'd need to render the lips completely.

You can add a bit of shine to them, make them smoother and a bit glossy, but you won't get perfect glossy and lustreous lips from that without re drawing the lips.

Just my two cents

x

Oct 22 09 09:39 am Link

Photographer

Umar

Posts: 1185

New York, New York, US

Natalia_Taffarel wrote:
To get something like this http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/wp-con … d-lips.jpg

you'd need to render the lips completely.

You can add a bit of shine to them, make them smoother and a bit glossy, but you won't get perfect glossy and lustreous lips from that without re drawing the lips.

Just my two cents

x

How about getting something inbetween?

Oct 22 09 09:44 am Link

Photographer

Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

Natalia_Taffarel wrote:
To get something like this http://jasonchristopher.com/blog/wp-con … d-lips.jpg

you'd need to render the lips completely.

You can add a bit of shine to them, make them smoother and a bit glossy, but you won't get perfect glossy and lustreous lips from that without re drawing the lips.

Just my two cents

x

I once saw a free Internet tutorial about how to make super glossy, vinyl-like lip shining like this.

Now I can't find it.


My own thought would be to use the posterize function to find the two levels of shine you see in this sample.


https://jasonchristopher.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/red-lips.jpg

If you remove the two areas of pure white shine, and the three stripes of 50% low contrast shine, then what you have left is flat, oversaturated lips with skin detail.

So that would be the other step ... paint or oversaturate the lipstick color.

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Another trick on lots of teeth is to use the desaturation tool (third tool under the burn/dodge tool) to remove all color, particularly yellow.

Then use the brightness tool, or levels, and make them bright.

This will give a nice clean porcelain look, without losing detail by blowing them out.


The original sample in the opening post looks like the teeth are already desaturated, so they only need to be brightened up by several levels.

https://ruabbasi.streetwhispers.com/mm/glosslips.jpg

Oct 22 09 09:45 am Link

Photographer

Umar

Posts: 1185

New York, New York, US

Thanks but I want to know about the lips and how to. Teeth I do not care much about smile

Oct 22 09 10:00 am Link

Photographer

Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

Ümar wrote:
How about getting something inbetween?

I was playing with these lips last night. It's nothing special, but it's good enough for some discussion in this thread.


https://www.pbase.com/schutze/image/118574494.jpg

The steps involved were these:

1. Image>Adjustments>Selective Colors> pull the cyan slider to the left to "flush" the lips

2. On a layer, over-sharpen with Unsharp Mask (250,1,0),  cover with a mask and brush through the mask to reveal sharpened sparkles. Double click the thumbnail and blend to taste.

3. To contrast the detail and sharpness of the lips, I softened the skin with a Dust & Scratch layer (15), then blended back to 50% to bring back some skin pore and peach fuzz detail.

4. The teeth were already naturally clean and bright

5. I added the words with the burn tool


Similar sequence for these:

https://www.pbase.com/schutze/image/57388898.jpg

(again, rough sample, overcompressed by pbase too many times over the years, but good enough for discussion)

Oct 22 09 10:02 am Link

Retoucher

KKP Retouching

Posts: 1489

Anaheim, California, US

This is why it's worlds easier to get it halfway decent in-camera... hire a MUA next time.  Or, at the very least, get the model to use chapstick for a few days before the shoot, and drink lots of water.

Oct 22 09 10:07 am Link

Photographer

Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

Ümar, I think the sample you started with needs a major makeover, which means you need to do some artistic sketching with a stylus, maybe reshaping with liquify, and reconstruct the entire photo and redo with "digital makeup" techniques.

There is lots of material to work with, but it's a challenge and time consuming exercise. The result would look nothing like the picture we start with.

This is not a photo for a few layer adjustments or filters, other than to subdue them.

This is a photo to take apart and reconstruct into something it isn't.

Oct 22 09 10:16 am Link

Photographer

Julian Marsalis

Posts: 1191

Austin, Texas, US

Ümar wrote:
Photoshop mavericks and experts. Can any one of you show how you can make the following lips glossy and lustreous along with directions. Please post the before and after of you work. Thanks a bunch in advance.

https://ruabbasi.streetwhispers.com/mm/glosslips.jpg

Try these steps:

Create a new layer set the blend mode to soft light and paint black over the lips adjust the opacity to taste.

Duplicate a merged layer and run the plastic wrap filter on it then add a hide all mask and paint the lips back in with white could have made a selection but hey brushing is easy.

Set layer to blend mode such as overlay or softlight or yada or yada experiment its fun and adjust opacity to taste again.

done...

Oct 22 09 10:24 am Link

Photographer

Umar

Posts: 1185

New York, New York, US

Click Hamilton wrote:
Ümar, I think the sample you started with needs a major makeover, which means you need to do some artistic sketching with a stylus, maybe reshaping with liquify, and reconstruct the entire photo and redo with "digital makeup" techniques.

There is lots of material to work with, but it's a challenge and time consuming exercise. The result would look nothing like the picture we start with.

This is not a photo for a few layer adjustments or filters, other than to subdue them.

This is a photo to take apart and reconstruct into something it isn't.

Thank you. Appreciate your feedback and the others who took a moment to reply

Oct 22 09 10:30 am Link

Photographer

MagicMirrorFoto

Posts: 30

Long Beach, California, US

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/091022/10/4ae09a1039659.jpg

Oct 22 09 10:48 am Link

Photographer

Kal Photo

Posts: 472

Corona, California, US

Just a quickie since I needed a distraction...  I'm no expert, but I wanted to quickly give it a shot:

https://i33.tinypic.com/1zp4505.jpg

Hue/Saturation layer for color.  Mask for just the lips.  Not quite what I was shooting for, but again, just wanted to do a quickie.

Quickie dodge and burn for shape and a little shine -
1) create a new layer, set blending mode to soft light
2) select an area.  Fill white for dodge, Fill black for burn.
3) adjust opacity

Paint in some cracks: New layer, blending mode normal. 
Quickly run through the cracks with a low opacity, selecting a nearby color to match. 

Guassian Blur on the lips.  I went too far.

More careful masking and either skipping the blur altogether or toning it down and it's almost half-way serviceable.

Oct 22 09 11:11 am Link

Retoucher

Aphoristic Precise

Posts: 290

Los Angeles, California, US

MagicMirrorFoto wrote:
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/091022/10/4ae09a1039659.jpg

Not bad!

Oct 22 09 12:08 pm Link

Photographer

Nadirah B

Posts: 28521

Los Angeles, California, US

I think the original looked more glossy.

I can't wait to see more examples being posted!

Oct 22 09 12:10 pm Link

Retoucher

jselig

Posts: 66

Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada

https://img.skitch.com/20091022-x9nnfugs2eej19kmfkri5eq74k.jpg

just a quick one, took about 2 minutes.

1. dodge some of the darker creases
2. paint over with white in a soft light layer.

I had tried a few other things, such as adjusting lip colour but for the sake of this one I felt it better to keep it closer to the original lips and gloss those a bit.

Thanks, I got it figured out, too many places using too many different tags for posting. smile

Oct 22 09 01:16 pm Link

Retoucher

9stitches

Posts: 476

Los Angeles, California, US

KKP Retouching wrote:
This is why it's worlds easier to get it halfway decent in-camera... hire a MUA next time.  Or, at the very least, get the model to use chapstick for a few days before the shoot, and drink lots of water.

That's one of those unhelpful posts that we were ranting about the other day. I'm shocked, yes shocked that it came from a PW (instead of a photographer) this time. wink

Although I'm not saying hiring someone isn't the answer, I just don't see how a MUA is going to make those lips any glossier - without getting your screen all goopy.

If you're having trouble seeing the differences between the lips you've posted and the lips Click put up, probably something like Drawing On The Right Side Of The Brain would be more helpful than a simple tutorial.

You need to study what shiny things look like, and why they shine where and how they do. Or hire someone who has.

I'm not going to pretend that I threw this together in 2 minutes, but a few more minutes would certainly have made it look better; I just ran out of goof-off time.
https://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj311/ezpkns/glosslips.jpg

Oct 22 09 03:44 pm Link

Photographer

Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

ezpkns retouching wrote:
You need to study what shiny things look like, and why they shine where and how they do. Or hire someone who has.

I'm not going to pretend that I threw this together in 2 minutes, but a few more minutes would certainly have made it look better; I just ran out of goof-off time.

Haha .. you reminded me of another possibility.

This one REALLY was a 2 minute edit tongue


https://www.pbase.com/image/118592297.jpg

(i.e. cut/paste from your favorite lip clip folder)

Oct 22 09 04:10 pm Link

Retoucher

Cristina M Beller

Posts: 140

Chicago, Illinois, US

Natalia is right you will have to completely render the lips. So if you have a decent painting hand, take a stab at it smile
here's a quick example I threw together. Obviously if you spend more time on it it will look better smile
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/asunder333/lipsglossy.jpg

Oct 22 09 05:10 pm Link

Photographer

Chanel Rene

Posts: 6780

Huntington Beach, California, US

Cristina M Beller wrote:
Natalia is right you will have to completely render the lips. So if you have a decent painting hand, take a stab at it smile
here's a quick example I threw together. Obviously if you spend more time on it it will look better smile

ooooh!
nice

:::right click save::: lol

Oct 22 09 05:13 pm Link

Retoucher

Aliana Retouching

Posts: 48

Toms River, New Jersey, US

I didn't get anything like anyone else and I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for or not.
https://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/baseballgal7/lips.jpg

Now if I remember correctly this is what I did (its not exact.. I should have written it down)
-fixed the levels of the image
- created a blank (new layer) changed the blending mode to lighten, picked a color similar to the highlighted area of the lips (not bright white), then change my brush to soft light w/ 35% opacity and 75% flow. Then I went in painted in all the dark creases to lighten them up. (drop the opacity  to get what you like) merge the two layers
- I used the elliptical marquee tool and drew around the lips and created a new layer with just the lips
- I used the paint daubs in the filter section (I just played around till I found something I liked) then I changed the layer blend to screen (erase what you don't want), drop the opacity to what you like best
-I used the elliptical marquee tool and drew around the lips and created a new layer with just the lips (yes again)
- I used the plastic wrap in the filter section (highlight 5, detail 11 smoothness 15.. I liked it)
(again go back and erase what you don't want) drop the opacity down to what you like best

it might not be perfect.. it was a lot of trial and error
Good luck I hope this helps somewhat!

Oct 22 09 06:38 pm Link

Retoucher

9stitches

Posts: 476

Los Angeles, California, US

Click Hamilton wrote:

Haha .. you reminded me of another possibility.

This one REALLY was a 2 minute edit tongue


https://www.pbase.com/image/118592297.jpg

(i.e. cut/paste from your favorite lip clip folder)

That was my first idea, but I knew at least you would spot it right away...

Oct 22 09 07:06 pm Link

Photographer

Fist Full of Ish

Posts: 2301

Aiken, South Carolina, US

I gave it a shot:

https://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5264/glosslips2.jpg
Well, I guess I suck. Ha!

Oct 22 09 08:14 pm Link