Posted by Alyssa Lovelle: 

I say, do what makes you feel good (as long as you don't hurt anyone) and to hell with what other people think. It's YOUR body, YOU have to live with your choices.

Well if you really didn't care what other people thought than why would you care if you got teased for your looks?

Posted by Duckiey: 
Like the show The Swan. SOme of those people were down right ugly and they even knew it themselves.

But you know what, even if they were "ugly" as you say when they go and start hanging with the beautiful people...and finally get them a boyfriend/girlfriend they are gonna have some kids.

In case you guys forgot, you are born with DNA, not the plastic. So you can get "Swanned up" "Extreme makeover-ed up" all you want, but truth be told when you pop that baby out, it's going to look just like the *gasp* ORIGINIAL YOU!

That straight nose, perfect teeth, will not be a product of your offspring. They will not be the "perfect" you.

Peoples views that this is "great" lol really disturbs me. But..to each his own I guess. I'm happy with the way god made me.

Posted by Alyssa Lovelle: 
And of course you're happy with the way god made you, you're GORGEOUS! ;-)

Awww thanks Alyssa. While I was writing my post last night, all I kept thinking about was, "geez I hope no one brings up the fact that HEY YOU'RE A MODEL THOUGH" lol. Thank you for the compliment.

Posted by Alyssa Lovelle: 
You can not give a rats arse about what people think, but at the same time, not want to be reminded about your large backside, or humpy nose or whatever by the mean, shallow and very LOUD buggers of the world.

But if you didn't care what people thought than why would you care what people say?

Posted by Delirium Filth: 
What are the various opinions about cosmetic surgery on MM?

My own personal opinion is, I believe that if someone can find a way to make themselves happer or happier by having a cosmetic surgery procedure done more power to them. But if it's being done just because of something they've been told then I think they need a bit of reality check and to honestly think about who's opinion they value. I believe anyone who tells you that you are too fat deserves to be kicked in the teeth.

Opinions?

I know so many women who have had breast enhancement because of low self esteem they think is caused by their breast size only to have them get seriously depressed about having gone into debt to have something done that did not help them at all because the true cause for their low self esteem was not due to their breast size at all. I also worked with a model who had hers done a couple months before and it was a nude shoot and it was hard for me to not make something resembling the icky poo poo face the whole time.

And hey Shayuma? Good lord, what a beauty!I`m getting so sick and tired of the bag of bones model. Why can`t you be closer?lol
Although, I am originally from Cincinnati and to have family back that way.

Posted by Duckiey: 
Like the show The Swan. SOme of those people were down right ugly and they even knew it themselves.

"But you know what, even if they were "ugly" as you say when they go and start hanging with the beautiful people...and finally get them a boyfriend/girlfriend they are gonna have some kids."

Since when is being "beautiful" the only way to attract a lover? My boyfriend has a pot belly and a bent nose. He is the most beautiful person too me and I love him. I don't care if he is beautiful by societies standards or not. I've dated men and women who by societies standards would be considered more attractive but I wouldn't want to be with anyone but him. The idea that you have to be physically attractive to date someone else who is physically attractive is absurd and shallow.

Posted by Glamour Boulevard: 

Posted by Delirium Filth: 
What are the various opinions about cosmetic surgery on MM?

My own personal opinion is, I believe that if someone can find a way to make themselves happer or happier by having a cosmetic surgery procedure done more power to them. But if it's being done just because of something they've been told then I think they need a bit of reality check and to honestly think about who's opinion they value. I believe anyone who tells you that you are too fat deserves to be kicked in the teeth.

Opinions?

And hey Shayuma? Good lord, what a beauty!I`m getting so sick and tired of the bag of bones model. Why can`t you be closer?lol
Although, I am originally from Cincinnati and to have family back that way.

Well whatdaya know..I was just looking over your port now! You're from Cincy too *smiles* Thank you for the compliments PM me so we can talk further!

Posted by Alyssa Lovelle: 
Why would it bother someone being teased?

Because it reminds you of something about yourself that you're not comfortable with, maybe even hate.

My point is that you said something like "who cares what people think" when it comes to plastic surgery. But then you go and say if someone is saying things about you then plastic surgery is a good option. So you really then are making a decsion based in part of what other people think about you. Thats really contradictory.

Posted by Leila: 

Posted by Alyssa Lovelle: 
Why would it bother someone being teased?

Because it reminds you of something about yourself that you're not comfortable with, maybe even hate.

My point is that you said something like "who cares what people think" when it comes to plastic surgery. But then you go and say if someone is saying things about you then plastic surgery is a good option. So you really then are making a decsion based in part of what other people think about you. Thats really contradictory.

Man..me and you think alike on so many topics..It's just SCARY.
Also, you still doing the Primal Sweat?

Posted by Shayuma: 

Posted by Leila: 

Posted by Alyssa Lovelle: 
Why would it bother someone being teased?

Because it reminds you of something about yourself that you're not comfortable with, maybe even hate.

My point is that you said something like "who cares what people think" when it comes to plastic surgery. But then you go and say if someone is saying things about you then plastic surgery is a good option. So you really then are making a decsion based in part of what other people think about you. Thats really contradictory.

Man..me and you think alike on so many topics..It's just SCARY.
Also, you still doing the Primal Sweat?

Hell yeah! I'm so looking foward to that. God I remember when all you had were those snapshots shayuma. You're beautiful and your pics look great.

Oh and the last thing I'll say on this issue (well at least for now) is that if your happiness is dependant on you bra size or being as thin as a cancer victim than knock yourself out. I'ld just rather not be a clone.

Posted by Leila: 
I've had enough surgery just to keep from being disabled. I'ld never want to have anymore.
Personally I think cosmetic surgery just creates a standard of beauty that is too high to acheive naturally. Its the "flaws" that make people unique and beautiful.

Beautifully stated

Posted by Leila: 

Posted by Alyssa Lovelle: 

I say, do what makes you feel good (as long as you don't hurt anyone) and to hell with what other people think. It's YOUR body, YOU have to live with your choices.

Well if you really didn't care what other people thought than why would you care if you got teased for your looks? 

As long as you do it for yourself and no one else you are doing it for the right reasons. After all, it is the mirror image you have  to live with

Posted by Leila: 
"If your not happy with yourself then no man is going to change that. He might make you comfortable cause he accepts you but you have to accept yourself on the inside."

So changing youself on the outside fixes how you feel on the inside? Maybe the real issue should be considered, its called insecurity.

"Alot of people were cut a raw deal with DNA"

I was born with a genetic disorder where my spine is basically broken in several area. It has taken a lot of surgery to keep me from being too disabled. I basically live in chronic pain but am still able to walk at least and apear to be "normal". Sorry but I don't have any simpathy for some one who feels they got a bum deal in like cause there tits are too flat.

If you look in the mirror and dont like what you see it makes you feel like shit on the inside and caues "Insecurities". Yes many people have major emotional issues because they dont like their looks and surgery has fixed what they didnt like and they were content and happy afterwards.
Women go through tourture everyday to make themselves "beautiful" Most keep up with the trends or all kinds, clothes, hair etc. So saying you dont care about what people say about ya is redundant to me.
Yeah I got spine issues, authoritis, fractured bones and so one but I dont see where that fits in on people who might " have gotten a bum deal" on the boobs and want to change it. Im sure people who have flat chest didnt have a perfect life either.  My friend Gina was an A cup. Couldnt fill a bathsuit, shirts never looked right, you name it she had issues with it. She only went to a full B and loves it. Shes happy with it.
Point is if someone isnt happy with how they look or feels insecure about it why shouldnt they have the right to change it? Why is that wrong? It isnt. And those people get it done no matter what people may say about cosmetic surgery. Cause it makes them happy.

Posted by Duckiey: 

If you look in the mirror and dont like what you see it makes you feel like shit on the inside and caues "Insecurities". 

But if you feel that way, then you have serious emotional problems. Getting cosmetic surgery will not fix that. If anything, it could turn you into someone who suffers from body dysmorphic disorder.

Posted by Delirium Filth: 
Alright, another question...Is cosmetic surgery only okay for those who have been disfigured in some way shape or form? OR is it okay for those who want to change something about themselves that they arent happy with?

Personally I think its shallow to get plastic surgery just to be like everyone else. People have brought up the issue of feeling bad about themselves and even hating themselves because of how they look. If you have that big of an issue than surgery will not fix that. If you looking at yourself makes you depressed than you probably don't have much going for you to begin with. If thats the case try improving your life and yourself on the inside. If the only thing that can make you happy is your appearence then you must have a pretty sad life.

I personally would never get plastic surgery. If someone wants to change something about themselves its their right. There are a lot of people out there who do and are happy with it. But unless you have genitals hanging from your chin I really don't see the point.