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Masciandaro Photography

Posts: 78

Westfield, New Jersey, US

Most DSLRs have video out for external monitors or USB to computers.

Are there any options for doing this with an iPad?

Dec 17 12 12:27 pm Link

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fullmetalphotographer

Posts: 2797

Fresno, California, US

Most of the apps I have seen have you tether your camera into a computer on a wifi then the iPad or iPhone will use the network through the computer to access the camera. I think some of the newer cameras are now access a wifi network directly so an iPad/iPhone does not have to use a computer for an interface.

Dec 17 12 12:46 pm Link

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Kelvin Hammond

Posts: 17376

Billings, Montana, US

I couldn't find it for I-pad so I bought a 7" Galaxy Tab, which runs DSLRemote app.  Works great!  No computer needed. All camera functions availible via wired, but I have a 20ft cable.

I'm not convinced a direct video feed would work well on an Ipad. Amazon sells little 7in LED monitors for that for around $175.

Dec 17 12 12:49 pm Link

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Grady Richardson

Posts: 278

Houston, Texas, US

This looks good to me:

http://www.camranger.com/

I'm pretty sure I'm getting one for Christmas - if I do, I'll post a review.

Dec 17 12 12:51 pm Link

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Kaouthia

Posts: 3152

Lancaster, England, United Kingdom

fullmetalphotographer wrote:
I think some of the newer cameras are now access a wifi network directly so an iPad/iPhone does not have to use a computer for an interface.

I've seen it done with the D4, it has a built in web server running a Java based viewer or something, but that's about it.

I think the D3200/WU-1a or D600/WU-1b combos will do it too.

No idea if any Canon bodies offer it.

Dec 17 12 12:52 pm Link

Photographer

Masciandaro Photography

Posts: 78

Westfield, New Jersey, US

Grady Richardson wrote:
This looks good to me:

http://www.camranger.com/

I'm pretty sure I'm getting one for Christmas - if I do, I'll post a review.

... pretty cool. If it works it just might give my tired old eyes a break.

Dec 17 12 01:04 pm Link

Photographer

Light and Lens Studio

Posts: 1899

Sisters, Oregon, US

Smedley Whiplash wrote:
.........................I'm not convinced a direct video feed would work well on an Ipad. Amazon sells little 7in LED monitors for that for around $175.

iPad does not do HDMI in.  Most video output from DSLR's is HDMI.  The little gadget mentioned in other posts is a great idea, but $300 bucks is pretty spendy (though maybe no more spendy than a bunch of eye-fi cards which may or may not work well in all circumstances).

I have been in direct contact with Apple development people (at Apple).  They are considering adding HDMI "in" to the next iteration which would make the iPad usable as an external monitor for both photography and video.  Pretty hard to imagine an external monitor that would beat the iPad for picture quality and price.

I would encourage photographers and videographers to contact Apple Development to encourage them to include HDMI 'in' in the next coming iPad.

Dec 17 12 01:12 pm Link

Photographer

ACPhotography

Posts: 8644

Plainview, New York, US

Grady Richardson wrote:
This looks good to me:

http://www.camranger.com/

I'm pretty sure I'm getting one for Christmas - if I do, I'll post a review.

Have one, works beautifully! I've used it with both my iPhone and iPad and it even works from a few hundred feet away. Of course the further away you go the slower the transfer and any walls in between will slow it down but that's WiFi for you...

The newer cameras offer more control through it than the older cameras do. I've run my D3s, D700 and D800 through it and the D800 gives me the most control which is fully understandable as AF and Focus points are analog switches on the older cameras.

My biggest need for it is to set up remote cameras and have the ability to look through the live view on anything but a laptop.

Dec 17 12 01:22 pm Link

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Loki Studio

Posts: 3122

Royal Oak, Michigan, US

Grady Richardson wrote:
This looks good to me:

http://www.camranger.com/

I'm pretty sure I'm getting one for Christmas - if I do, I'll post a review.

Just got it and it works exactly as advertised.  Images do not show up full screen automatically, only when downloaded which takes 1-2 sec.  Will work on location too since it makes it own wifi network.

Dec 17 12 06:30 pm Link

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R Michael Walker

Posts: 11987

Costa Mesa, California, US

Grady Richardson wrote:
This looks good to me:

http://www.camranger.com/

I'm pretty sure I'm getting one for Christmas - if I do, I'll post a review.

Saw that too. Let me know what you think if you get one.

Dec 17 12 06:39 pm Link

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ACPhotography

Posts: 8644

Plainview, New York, US

R Michael Walker wrote:

Saw that too. Let me know what you think if you get one.

2 people just did...

Dec 17 12 07:10 pm Link

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R_Marquez

Posts: 4652

San Francisco, California, US

I don't mean to promote brands, but just pointing out alternatives in case there's something similar on the iOS side.

With DSLR controller on Android/Canon, you can use one device as a server and another to use wireless.

In my case, I can connect my phone to my camera, and use the phone to transmit the DSLR controller signal to my tablet.

Pretty much like the Camranger, except that I can use stuff that I already own.

Dec 17 12 07:28 pm Link

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ArtisticGlamour

Posts: 3846

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Light and Lens Studio wrote:
I would encourage photographers and videographers to contact Apple Development to encourage them to include HDMI 'in' in the next coming iPad.

Do you have a link? smile

Dec 18 12 06:10 am Link

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Peter Claver

Posts: 26657

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

ArtisticGlamour wrote:

Do you have a link? smile

http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

Dec 18 12 06:13 am Link

Photographer

J M

Posts: 372

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

The Canon 6d has wifi built into the body all that you need is the app on your ipad and then you have full control over live view video or stills.

Dec 18 12 06:19 am Link

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KMP

Posts: 4834

Houston, Texas, US

I recently bought a VAIO laptop. It's fast, super thin and light. 
And comes with a 500GB drive.

I can use any of a number of image viewing/rating programs such as Photoshop's Bridge or one of my faves, Photo Mechanic. 

I can rate with colors and/or stars.  It's great to review images, check focus, clothing etc.

What I like most about this is when I get back to the office, I have the client's picks. When I need to do a fast turn-around, having those selections really facilitates the job.   

I don't know if there's an iPad app that has such flexibility.

Dec 18 12 06:25 am Link

Photographer

exartica

Posts: 1345

Bowie, Maryland, US

KevinMcGowanPhotography wrote:
I recently bought a VAIO laptop. It's fast, super thin and light. 
And comes with a 500GB drive.

I can use any of a number of image viewing/rating programs such as Photoshop's Bridge or one of my faves, Photo Mechanic. 

I can rate with colors and/or stars.  It's great to review images, check focus, clothing etc.

What I like most about this is when I get back to the office, I have the client's picks. When I need to do a fast turn-around, having those selections really facilitates the job.   

I don't know if there's an iPad app that has such flexibility.

Photosmith does that, and the ratings/selections can be wirelessly synced with a Lightroom catalog in both directions.

Dec 18 12 08:26 am Link

Photographer

KMP

Posts: 4834

Houston, Texas, US

exartica wrote:

Photosmith does that, and the ratings/selections can be wirelessly synced with a Lightroom catalog in both directions.

Thanks..I'll have to look into that.

Dec 18 12 10:37 am Link

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ArtisticGlamour

Posts: 3846

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Peter Claver wrote:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

Thank you, Peter...I sent in a comment as follows:

Dear Apple Engineering/Customer support.

Please consider adding an HDMI input port on the new iPADs, so that I can also use it as an auxillary HDMI monitor!

Thanks.

I LOVE -all- Apple products. I LOVE -all- Apple products.
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Dec 18 12 12:19 pm Link

Photographer

Grady Richardson

Posts: 278

Houston, Texas, US

R Michael Walker wrote:
Saw that too. Let me know what you think if you get one.

Okay, I did get one. I also have an Eye-Fi card, so here's my $.02.

I was disappointed with the Eye-Fi card. When it worked, it worked well, but it seldom worked long. I got it to make it easier to discuss poses with my models. However, it always seemed to stop working during a session for no reason that I could see. I spoke to their technical support people, but never got a solution to the problem. Frankly, I found it embarrassing to pull out my iPad to show a shot to a model and then have it not transfer.

The Cam-Ranger costs more ($300 versus as little as $30 depending on the size of the Eye-Fi card) but it does more and does it better. One advantage is that it only transfers a thumbnail of each shot, rather than the full-sized JPEG - you then tap on the selected thumbnail to transfer the full JPEG. I'm sure that this helps keep the system from getting bogged down by rapid shooting.

In addition to transferring images for QC, you can use it to control the camera for long exposure, bracketed exposures for HDR, time lapse, self portraits, or just controlling the camera remotely. You can control exposure and focus (manually or autofocus where you select the focus point by touching the spot on the image where you want to focus). It sends the liveview image to your device (I'm using an iPad and I also have it installed on my iPhone). There is an Android app and they are supposed to be writing Mac and PC versions of the software.

In general, I think that the Cam-Ranger is the way to go; I can't recommend the Eye-Fi. My one caveat - I haven't had a full photoshoot since I got my new toy - I've just played with timed exposures & HDR, so I can't say that I've given it a full shakedown yet, but it was easy to install, worked out of the box, and everything that I've tried so far has worked.

Jan 03 13 12:33 pm Link

Photographer

Jon Winkleman Photo

Posts: 105

New York, New York, US

Panasonic's Lumix GH3 that was released in December 2012 does this out of the box.
It has built in wifi and free apps for both iPhone/iPad and Android.

You can use your tablet or smartphone as both a tethered external monitor and a remote control that can control many camera settings along with the shutter release. I have a firmware hacked GH2 predecessor which does incredible video. Tempted to get the GH3 as I would love to have a very compact kit in a small backpack that allows me to do tethered macro while hiking. Just as useful as the iPhone apps for light meters and model releases.

My prediction is that Canon and Nikon will eventually adopt wifi iPad/tablet tethering for their pro-full frame models. I personally also think they will eventually adopt a lot of mirrorless technology in professional full frames including getting rid of the mirror-box as EVF technology is quickly closing that gap.

Jan 03 13 01:56 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Shipstad

Posts: 4624

Burbank, California, US

I got the Camranger and love it!! it's live view is somewhere around 14 FPS but it's still very nice. Very easy to use, lot's of options and it just plain worked!

Jan 03 13 05:53 pm Link

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Michael DBA Expressions

Posts: 3237

Lynchburg, Virginia, US

So, Camranger wireless for $300; there is also tha Apple Camera Connector which is about $30, I think, for a wired USB connection.

Jan 03 13 06:01 pm Link

Photographer

Patrick Shipstad

Posts: 4624

Burbank, California, US

Michael DBA Expressions wrote:
So, Camranger wireless for $300; there is also tha Apple Camera Connector which is about $30, I think, for a wired USB connection.

Hmm. I don't know of an app for the iPad that will feed a live view via the USB camera kit.. is there one I don't know about?!?

Jan 03 13 06:48 pm Link

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Robert Lynch

Posts: 2485

Bowie, Maryland, US

Michael DBA Expressions wrote:
So, Camranger wireless for $300; there is also tha Apple Camera Connector which is about $30, I think, for a wired USB connection.

The only thing the Camera Connection Kit does is turn the camera into a very expensive card reader.

Jan 03 13 08:33 pm Link