Forums > Off-Topic Discussion > Are tattoos sort of dying? FYI, nothing more.

Photographer

SME

Posts: 21047

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

GPS Studio Services wrote:
The numbers will just decline but never completely fade away.

And neither will the threads arguing about it!  lol

Apr 19 13 11:00 am Link

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What Fun Productions

Posts: 20192

Phoenix, Arizona, US

salvatori. wrote:
As a guy who has a few really nice custom tattoos, I am completely offended by your attitude.

But you don't have to look at them.

But I'm glad it fulfilled something you needed. That's cool.

Apr 19 13 11:02 am Link

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GPS Studio Services

Posts: 36350

San Francisco, California, US

GPS Studio Services wrote:
The numbers will just decline but never completely fade away.

Sita Mae wrote:
And neither will the threads arguing about it!  lol

I should get seven or eight just so I can start a thread.

Apr 19 13 11:12 am Link

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salvatori.

Posts: 3836

Bellefonte, Pennsylvania, US

What Fun Productions wrote:

But you don't have to look at them.

But I'm glad it fulfilled something you needed. That's cool.

I don't get it. You actually consider it some sort of visual disability that you are forced to endure?

This reply upsets me more than the first one I replied to. What's next - you're gonna talk about hair styles making you wretch?

Jesus...

Apr 19 13 11:14 am Link

Photographer

salvatori.

Posts: 3836

Bellefonte, Pennsylvania, US

GPS Studio Services wrote:

I've seen some really kewl tattoos.

My right bicep tattoo is a version of this one; bbut of course, in my tat, you can see her boobs smile

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqrfp0YL0e1qajaeuo1_400.jpg

My tat is just the girl, no wording, of course).

Apr 19 13 11:15 am Link

Photographer

SME

Posts: 21047

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

GPS Studio Services wrote:
I should get seven or eight just so I can start a thread.

lol

Tattooed people: Don't worry about people who don't like or get you.  You're the one who has to live with it, so your opinion is the one that matters!

Non-tattooed people: You have autonomy over your eyeballs.  Swing those bad boys somewhere else if you don't like the view. 

NOW can we stop arguing?

lol

I already know the answer to that.

Apr 19 13 11:18 am Link

Clothing Designer

GRMACK

Posts: 2196

Bakersfield, California, US

Don't know if it is fading as I counted 23 parlors in the local phone book.  Three were doctor ads for removals in them too.  One gave up private practice for removals so it must be more financially lucrative for him (Cash business maybe and no insurance to pay him pennies on the dollar?).

Issue is a lot of them look bad in quality, color, sharpness, etc.  Plus their owners don't maintain them and they get "runny."  Reminds me of wedding photographers who hate "Instagram Wedding Photos" on their quality, so we have a lot of "Instagram Tattoos" around here now where the artists really aren't that good.

I've met one model on here, Lacy Soto (MM#730453), and her ink work really is art and she keeps it looking very sharp as she has fair skin (almost white), but she works for Kat Von D too so she has connections to whom I would imagine are the better "Ink" artists in LA too.

Her:
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120427/13/4f9aff26d2422_m.jpg

My brother has one of the old military and flag things on his chest.  It is a mess now and his wife has been bugging him "To get it fixed up or taken off!"  I'm still awaiting the winner in that household war. wink

Apr 19 13 11:19 am Link

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salvatori.

Posts: 3836

Bellefonte, Pennsylvania, US

For the record, I'm a live and let live kind of guy.

Would never have commented on this thread except when a person says I'm actually an eyesore simply 'cause I'm inked... yeah, my bean's been steamed by that point.

God knows what he'd say if he saw my son, who is pretty well tatted up.

You would think by now that when a person insults an Italian, he's knows he's insulted his whole family............

Apr 19 13 11:22 am Link

Model

Scoria

Posts: 55

Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada

In my opinion, yes, a lot of people regret those tattoos - but, the people that regret tattoos regret them because they got them for the wrong reasons. So many people get tattoos solely because they think they'll look better with them. When the tattoo is finished, they realize their body still looks the exact same and regret getting the tattoo. Being in the body modification industry, I get tattoos because I love the process of getting a tattoo and the end result. I love being able to turn a piece of art on paper into art on skin. I love the creative process. One in eight people will get a tattoo on impulse, without putting any thought into it (really, I think it's probably more like four in eight and maybe three of them actually turned out well, while the one that didn't turn out well regrets it).

So no, tattoos aren't dying, people are just realizing that tattoos aren't something to just throw on your body to make other people think you're more attractive.

Apr 19 13 11:25 am Link

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JadeDRed

Posts: 5461

London, England, United Kingdom

What Fun Productions wrote:
But you don't have to look at them.

Most non-tattooed people aren't exactly oil paintings either.

I've dated some people with some hideous tattoos, worse case scenario, do them doggy style.

(This method may not work for guys, especially if it's a tramp stamp)

Apr 19 13 12:38 pm Link

Model

Snuff Elles

Posts: 593

ADGER, Alabama, US

I think heavy tattoos aren't popular anymore but there will always be people with the odd small meaningful one here and there.

Apr 19 13 02:15 pm Link

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P I X I E

Posts: 35327

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

What Fun Productions wrote:
People who get tattoos forget it's others (innocent bystanders) who have to look at their "art."

I'm not twisting anyone's arm to look at my ink. You don't have to look. That's as simple as that.

Apr 19 13 03:10 pm Link

Photographer

What Fun Productions

Posts: 20192

Phoenix, Arizona, US

P I X I E wrote:

I'm not twisting anyone's arm to look at my ink. You don't have to look. That's as simple as that.

I wish it was that easy.

But hey, I'm glad you love it!

Apr 19 13 03:11 pm Link

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P I X I E

Posts: 35327

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

What Fun Productions wrote:

I wish it was that easy.

But hey, I'm glad you love it!

Pathetic. lol

Apr 19 13 03:21 pm Link

Artist/Painter

JJMiller

Posts: 621

Buffalo, New York, US

It would be nice if they had tattoo options in the search here.

Apr 19 13 03:43 pm Link

Photographer

Collin J. Rae

Posts: 7652

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

What Fun Productions wrote:
People who get tattoos forget it's others (innocent bystanders) who have to look at their "art."

You don't HAVE to look at anyone or anything.

Apr 19 13 08:25 pm Link

Photographer

What Fun Productions

Posts: 20192

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Collin J. Rae wrote:

You don't HAVE to look at anyone or anything.

I would never be rude.

Apr 19 13 08:26 pm Link

Makeup Artist

sweetcheekscouture

Posts: 429

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

Apr 19 13 08:36 pm Link

Model

Gabrielle Heather

Posts: 10064

Middle Island, New York, US

What Fun Productions wrote:
I would never be rude.

Oh really!!!!

Apr 19 13 09:00 pm Link

Model

Gabrielle Heather

Posts: 10064

Middle Island, New York, US

Siddy Pain wrote:
I think heavy tattoos aren't popular anymore but there will always be people with the odd small meaningful one here and there.

this has been a topic before.......... define a "heavy" tattoo" ? is that lots of black? all in one area?  I dont get it? I dont like random small ones all over...... everyone has a preference. I like things that flow and connect with purpose. I also like things that are thought out and have meaning. Either way, I like when people use their own thoughts and hold to them. It's called creative and emotional expression. You use yours in one way, and I will use mine in another. Everyone is different, that is what makes the world go round. Not everyone is going to agree.

Apr 19 13 09:04 pm Link

Photographer

Top Level Studio

Posts: 3253

Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

Based on the numbers of models posting about their new tattoos and updates to their existing ones, there seems to be no decline in popularity in this neighbourhood.

Apr 19 13 09:06 pm Link

Clothing Designer

GRMACK

Posts: 2196

Bakersfield, California, US

JJMiller wrote:
It would be nice if they had tattoo options in the search here.

I agree 100% on that, maybe even 200%.  There should be a Tattoo "Yes" or "No" box on here in "Refine Search."

For one,
A "NO"  box that I do not have tattoos (at all) would help to eliminate issues where some designer who works with sheer, appliques, or laces finds that a tattoo will wreck the fabric's design if it shows through.  Same for jewelry makers who are trying to display 'their art' and not the 'model's art.'  Paying a MUA an hour time to cover a large one isn't exactly financially cheap either.

Conversely,
A "YES" box for those who have them and are needed by some for the ink, alt. magazines, goth, or trade work would speed up the searches on this site immensely.  After all, there are some who do prefer to shoot with them.

No middle ground check box either.
I know some would like to skirt it with, "But I have a small one on the back of my neck under my hair so it shouldn't matter."  Well, you may have gotten a ticket for doing 26MPH in a 25MPH school zone and "Yes, you were speeding!" by any judge much as "Yes, you have a tattoo" or "No, you do not."  You could say it's small in your profile and not visible if "Yes" too.


I'm sort of surprised this site has such a wide "Refine Search" for things like weight, color of hair, sundry sizing info, skin color (even tanned?), height, recent activity, locations, etc. but no tattoo search selection box at all?

Having one should help speed things along instead of pouring through ports looking.  Really does get tedious at times.


I wont' even get into the "Escort?  Yes or No check box."  Maybe.  Maybe not.

Apr 19 13 09:33 pm Link

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Jirrupin

Posts: 1743

Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia

people are quick to claim tattoos are on the way out 'cause removal services have doubled or tripled, but often seem to forget that the number of tattoo artists out there are growing at the same rate or faster.. keeping the ratio on a pretty even keel

I really dislike tattoos that meaningless and those that are poorly placed on the body, so as to be distracting. (Came close to getting one once when dating an artist who tried to come up with a design that was really meaningful, moreso as it was her own art, and would fit well on my shoulder, but never came up with the perfect fit)

As a photographer I will definitely always  avoid models that have tattoos that are going to show with the wardrobe planned for a shoot. I have once tried to do a shoot where I would of liked a tattooed model, but I couldn't find quite the right look, going back to the golden rules of tattoos, placement is very paramount, i'd rather see a full sleeve tattoo than a few  randomly placed pieces down the arm

Apr 20 13 12:54 am Link

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P I X I E

Posts: 35327

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

What Fun Productions wrote:

I would never be rude.

Is that true. You don't appear like the kind of person who would be nice.

If avoiding to look at someone's tattoos is so difficult for you, you have issues.

Apr 20 13 12:23 pm Link

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Chicchowmein

Posts: 14486

Palm Beach, Florida, US

P I X I E wrote:

Is that true. You don't appear like the kind of person who would be nice.

If avoiding to look at someone's tattoos is so difficult for you, you have issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSuB4t3q_dA

Apr 20 13 12:58 pm Link

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P I X I E

Posts: 35327

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Apr 20 13 01:13 pm Link

Model

Scarlett de la Calle

Posts: 414

Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia

What Fun Productions wrote:
People who get tattoos forget it's others (innocent bystanders) who have to look at their "art."

You make it sound like we are flashing you our ganitalia while you are trying to take your kids to school. Most people who regret their tattoos walk into a tattoo shop and go "hey that looks cool" most other people do not regret their tattoos. If you don't like it get over it its not your body and if a model has a tattoo get over it you don't have to hire or work with her.

Apr 21 13 09:22 pm Link

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ALT Visions Photography

Posts: 370

San Jose, California, US

salvatori. wrote:

Well, for one, I am in the group that thinks that broccoli sucks.

And I am sure that some will say that marriage regret isn't the same as tattoo regret; as the damage isn't permanent.

As the product of two divorces, I can assure you... it is...

tongue

"Just photoshop it out."
"You can get the tattoo removed later."
"Just get a divorce."

Yeah, advice from people who don't know how difficult and painful those things are to do.

I'm a pro photographer.  I have 3 tattoos and have plans for two more and maybe a sixth.  I've also been through 2 divorces.

Apr 23 13 02:22 am Link

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IDG Photography

Posts: 1

Monroe, Louisiana, US

Unless your in the industry your words are based on what knowledge other than assumption?? TV Has commercialized Body art. When that happened it opened the flood gates. Tattoo shops tripled and some are owned by businessmen who have no knowledge of the art. Just making money. So of course the people regretting them have increased.

The people getting them have tripled. My studio went from 200k a year to 350k a year. Body art is not going anywhere and if you find it offensive don't look or hire the people that have them. They got them because they wanted to, obviously, and if not maybe they were a little immature. So they get them removed. People make mistakes no matter how old they get. When you see people on TV become stars like Kat Von D suddenly all the girls want to like her, etc, etc.

Hopefully TV will back out of it and it will go back to normality. I hate the commercializing of it. Partially for this reason. Mainly because it is an art, not a money making machine. But, like yours, what does my opinion matter?

Apr 23 13 08:18 am Link

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Blue Box Photography

Posts: 1166

Montville, New Jersey, US

JJMiller wrote:
It would be nice if they had tattoo options in the search here.

Yes - that would be ideal for my work. If nothing else, adding something like "Tattoo Work" to the genres section would help.

Apr 23 13 08:32 am Link

Model

Anastasia Solodovnikova

Posts: 1

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

I don't like tattoos on women so much, that's probably why I don't have any smile I don't mind them on men though smile

Apr 23 13 08:36 am Link

Photographer

Collin J. Rae

Posts: 7652

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

What Fun Productions wrote:

I would never be rude.

Don't fight your nature.

Apr 23 13 10:03 am Link

Photographer

What Fun Productions

Posts: 20192

Phoenix, Arizona, US

What Fun Productions wrote:
I would never be rude.

Collin J. Rae wrote:

Don't fight your nature.

Please stop your attacks.

Apr 23 13 10:31 am Link

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Chicchowmein

Posts: 14486

Palm Beach, Florida, US

What Fun Productions wrote:
People who get tattoos forget it's others (innocent bystanders) who have to look at their "art."

Wouldn't that be censorship though?

I mean I feel that like sometimes when I open some people's portfolios or even just view their avatars but then I just close them and move on with my life.

Apr 23 13 10:46 am Link

Photographer

Chicchowmein

Posts: 14486

Palm Beach, Florida, US

What Fun Productions wrote:
People who get tattoos forget it's others (innocent bystanders) who have to look at their "art."

Wouldn't that be censorship though?

I mean I feel that like sometimes when I open some people's portfolios or even just view their avatars but then I just close them and move on with my life.

Apr 23 13 10:46 am Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 22387

New York, New York, US

Tattoos do not die... they fade!

Apr 23 13 11:04 am Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 22387

New York, New York, US

Anastasia Solodovnikova wrote:
I don't like tattoos on women so much, that's probably why I don't have any smile I don't mind them on men though smile

Hey...  how 'U doin'?  big_smile

udor  aka Mr. Tengu

Apr 23 13 11:12 am Link

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BorderlineBunny

Posts: 2201

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

I'm not a terribly big fan of too many tattoos everywhere that people just randomly get spur of the moment because they like the feel and they're addicted. I have a sister like that. She has a new one every other week it seems, and they're all halfassed common (koi fish, roses) done by a freelancer who really hasn't honed his craft and looks as though he has some seriously jittery hands that I'm certain she'll regret having her body coated in them later in life. Perhaps when she wants something original instead.

BUT, that having been said...I don't have hair. Haven't had hair since I was thirteen. Alopecia Universalis. Sooo, I always kinda thought about getting SOMETHING on my dome. No hair grows there, and I'm not the type to just go walking around with my head uncovered because I'm self conscious. I could walk around nude in front of people, but I'll be damned if I walk around without my head covered.

Maybe if I had something really original and beautiful and breathtaking slapped up there, I could turn a negative into a positive and be able to sleep, go out, walk around my house, the whole shabang without a bandana on and finally feel free.

Apr 23 13 11:43 am Link

Photographer

Lee K

Posts: 2411

Palatine, Illinois, US

"Tattoo regret" is an absolutely meaningless statistic considering that most people who truly regret getting tattoos are ashamed to admit it.

Apr 23 13 08:43 pm Link

Model

Aleigha Martin

Posts: 3

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Kyle T Edwards wrote:
I hope tattoos are going out of style, so that we can stop having all of these threads about tattoos, most of which are started by people who don't have tattoos in the first place.  I swear, you people without tattoos obsess over it more than those of us who do have them.

Here's a simple summary of pretty much every tattoo thread on this site thus far:

> Yes, tattoo shops close location.  Some move, some go out of business.  All businesses do this.  I saw a closed photography storefront last weekend; it doesn't mean photography's dying.

> Yes, some people get tattoos they regret.  Many others, like Koryn and myself, do spend extensive time designing, planning and deciding on a tattoo before we ever get it done.  It's going to be with me for life, so I can wait another year or two.

> tattoo removal hurts.  From what I've heard, it hurts like hell.  Well, no shit; of course it hurts.  It's a frickin' laser!  You zap someone with a laser with the intent to burn something out from under their skin and what do you think the resulting feeling is going to be?  It ain't swimming in the ocean!

> Yes, it limits employment, both in modeling and elsewhere.  People who get tattoos know this.  I assure you, though, memorializing my late grandmother means a hell of a lot more to me than that $150 you're paying me to stand in front of your camera for a few hours.  Believe it or not, some things are more important than money.

> We realize that some of you don't like tattoos.  You only mention it every chance you get.  You call it a poor life choice or whatever.  All that proves is that you don't know Jack about us, and that you're generally a self-righteous prick, but we're usually too polite to say anything.  Well, I'm saying it.  You're a self-righteous prick.  The next time you want to feel holier than the rest of us, feel free to nail yourself up.  I'll loan you my hammer.

If you don't want a model with tattoos in a shoot, then don't hire one.  It's just that simple.  Note in your casting call that you don't want any visible tattoos.  Easy 'nuff?


Now, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER TATTOO QUESTION BEFORE WE GET THIS SITE TO PERMANENTLY BAN ALL TATTOO THREADS, NOW'S THE FUCKING TIME.



(And to think, I'm Canadian.  This is the polite version!)

A fuckin Men  my tats mean more to me then any amount of money you could offer me.  I have 3 and i would never let anyone remove mine out of pics. they are apart of me. me includes my body and anything that is on it and or attached to it and tats are attached.

Apr 23 13 09:01 pm Link