Ario Triwibowo wrote:
I am doing this shoot in a thematic studio, with unique and colorful backgrounds and also a rooftop. I actually have something in mind, where there is this bookshelf / library-like background in the studio, so I wanna do something like nerd-ish / bookworm-ish theme there. So, that's one idea.

Should be a rather simple to implement considering the adolescent aspect of Asian girls. For example dress them as teenager with casual dress or using some uniform.

Sabrina Maree wrote:
I think you should try to be more specific... hard to be casual, sexy, glamourous, and fashion-y at the same time. What message do you want to convey? What emotion? What do you want to make the viewer feel?

I think was too general, and perhaps to take out the glamour aspect. Well I was considering to want somethin casual yet colorful, but can be editorial as well..

Speaking of emotion, I think it would more young and fun, so to speak.

alessandro2009 wrote:
I think if one of this model fit an androgynous look,you could obtain want you wanted.
While avoiding to exasperate, as often happen, an "almost perfect" male look, while maintain an editorial style, playing with the pose, clothes and lights.
This is just an idea, but there are many solutions.


Should be a rather simple to implement considering the adolescent aspect of Asian girls. For example dress them as teenager with casual dress or using some uniform.

thanks for the input alessandro.
I would have to take out the androgynous idea, because I think both of them look better in their feminine looks, but the uniform thing seems a nice idea. thanks!

AJ_In_Atlanta wrote:
Shouldn't the idea come first?

that's what I am trying to overcome. the idea. that's why I ask for inputs.

Lallure Photographic wrote:
I don't think you are very focused, on what you seek to accomplish, and the result of that, will likely be very disappointing images.

Never book a shoot, until you know exactly, what you want to do, what it will produce, and how you intend to go about the process.

Yes, that's why I am here. I need inputs so I can focus more. In the meantime, my idea is too broad, so yed, as you said I am not very focused. Just yet.

and, I didn't book a shoot just yet.

Ario Triwibowo wrote:
Should it be like an opposite character theme, like model A uses black wardrobes and model B uses white, or better a uniform theme like both models uses black.

That will give you exposure problems

How about two models playing tug-o-war on a rooftop?

One model browses the bookshelf while the other reads a book?

Maybe a student/teacher interaction?

nerd-ish:  Something with black horn-rimmed glasses?

Ario Triwibowo wrote:

Yes, that's why I am here. I need inputs so I can focus more. In the meantime, my idea is too broad, so yed, as you said I am not very focused. Just yet.

and, I didn't book a shoot just yet.

Forget the models. Forget everything you have named. Just start with the idea, the emotion, the feeling you want the viewer to feel. That might not involve two models. You might be able to do it with one.

After you have that, we can better help you build upon that.

Mark Salo wrote:

That will give you exposure problems

How about two models playing tug-o-war on a rooftop?

One model browses the bookshelf while the other reads a book?

Maybe a student/teacher interaction?

nerd-ish:  Something with black horn-rimmed glasses?

thanks! I will consider them

Rays Fine Art wrote:
Sounds to me like a situation where the models themselves should have a good deal of input.  The will quickly form some sort of relationship and this may lead to some ideas.  We photographers tend to think that we are the brains of the outfit but I've found that it just ain't so sometimes.  Rather than fight it, I've learned to take advantage of it.

All IMHO as always, of course.

yea I agree. sometimes an overplanned shot just doesnt come out as one might expect

The Grey Forest wrote:
mirrors = the two opposites are reflections of one another (inward & outward appearances)

I have seen an image where a nude model was looking into a mirror and saw herself in a wedding dress.  In another image, a pregnant model saw herself holding a baby.  In both cases, it was the same model - two images composited.  Be careful with lighting angles.

Frank Lewis Photography wrote:
A boxing match?

A pillow fight?

Mark Salo wrote:

A pillow fight?

Yeah, that too...