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John Photography

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Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYKbNMrnExo


Star Wars has been around for just over 30 years... Why take these off the shelves now?

Jul 16 15 07:50 am Link

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Evan Hiltunen

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Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

While I agree with his underlying point, his argument is poorly structured, poorly supported, and the constant cursing gets in the way of his making a valid point.

Basically, an unstructured rant. He isn't half as witty, or bright, as he seems to think he is.

Jul 16 15 08:02 am Link

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Wye

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Evan Hiltunen wrote:
While I agree with his underlying point, his argument is poorly structured, poorly supported, and the constant cursing gets in the way of his making a valid point.

Basically, an unstructured rant. He isn't half as witty, or bright, as he seems to think he is.

He's making it sound like the desire of one parent to ban these things is "parents are trying" meaning multiple, even many people want this.

Talk about mountain out of a mole hill.

9 minutes of bluster when 10 seconds would have done.  He's the master straw man builder.

EDIT: and of course the OP believed him...

Jul 16 15 08:33 am Link

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Brian Diaz

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Danbury, Connecticut, US

Wye wrote:

He's making it sound like the desire of one parent to ban these things is "parents are trying" meaning multiple, even many people want this.

Talk about mountain out of a mole hill.

9 minutes of bluster when 10 seconds would have done.  He's the master straw man builder.

EDIT: and of course the OP believed him...

Yep.  Even the original "news" report about this leaps from "I wouldn't buy this for my 4 year old," to "Parents are FURIOUS!!!1one"

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/295397 … ts-furious

Jul 16 15 08:38 am Link

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Solas

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada

So...I take it they've never seen any barbie doll, ever? Sounds like the dad is missing the context from the movie. It's part of the scene. Pretty obvious what the dad is into (BDSM/whips/chains) in the bedroom! big_smile that's likely what he's blushing about .. thinking it is what the toy is referencing

Jul 16 15 08:50 am Link

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Wye

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I mean.. without context.. the father isn't wrong.  Why a doll in a bikini with a collar and chain around her neck.  Outside of the context of star wars.. yeah.. it's a bit out there for a child of any age.  But in context? it makes sense.

If he knows the context  and doesn't understand that he can say to his daughters: "This is representing a character in a very popular movie that children 30 years ago really enjoyed.. maybe we can watch the movies together and learn about what this toy is all about" then he's got a problem.

But if he's just ignorant of star wars -- and there's no reason to think that the father of a 4 year old child knows about or even cares about star wars -- then it is what it is.  He could certainly stand to try to *learn* about the context but it's not like he's pulling all the toys off the shelves and burning them in the parking lot.  He expressed his displeasure at the imagery presented and that's that.

Jul 16 15 08:55 am Link

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DHayes Photography

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Richmond, Virginia, US

I find it hard to believe that the father has never seen Return of the Jedi and has no idea what the "slave Leia" figure is all about.  Or what she eventually does with that chain.

Jul 16 15 09:09 am Link

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Wye

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada

DHayes Photography wrote:
I find it hard to believe that the father has never seen Return of the Jedi and has no idea what the "slave Leia" figure is all about.  Or what she eventually does with that chain.

*shrug* The story doesn't say how old his kids are but it says the toy is labeled for 4 years and up.  A father of a 4 year old could be in his early 20s. I guarantee there are 25 year olds out in the wide world of the USA who haven't seen Return of the Jedi or know very much about it.

Jul 16 15 09:13 am Link

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Jules NYC

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New York, New York, US

https://rs940.pbsrc.com/albums/ad241/frieza112/Star%20Wars%20Animated%20GIFs/SlaveLeia.gif~c200

Maybe the kid (s) should watch the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMUvVvMLVBU

Jul 16 15 09:20 am Link

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Kevin Connery

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El Segundo, California, US

Evan Hiltunen wrote:
While I agree with his underlying point, his argument is poorly structured, poorly supported, and the constant cursing gets in the way of his making a valid point.

Basically, an unstructured rant. He isn't half as witty, or bright, as he seems to think he is.

That pretty much sums it up.

He's ranting about being offended by people who are mildly offended.

Jul 16 15 09:43 am Link

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ethasleftthebuilding

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Key West, Florida, US

Someone wants to ban an action figure of Carrie Fisher in the classic slave girl outfit from Return of the Jedi?

Okay, the world has certainly gone to shit in a dirty commode now.

Jul 16 15 09:50 am Link

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Robb Mann

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Baltimore, Maryland, US

It's fun to hear the easily offended talk about the easily offended.

Jul 16 15 02:12 pm Link

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Shot By Adam

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https://www.shotbyadam.com/images/kenobi.jpg

Jul 16 15 02:32 pm Link

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Jules NYC

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New York, New York, US

Maybe parents are seeing this:

lol

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/56/79/5d/56795d793c2e663b60df00c6522ac3bd.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BV_4aKlIcAAknrs.jpg

Jul 16 15 02:44 pm Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

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Los Angeles, California, US

I think he was trying to sue Star Whores Makers...........

https://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af133/cirtapfotos/images%201.jpg

Jul 16 15 03:00 pm Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

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Los Angeles, California, US

Here is what Carrie Fisher has to say about her Metal Bikini Suit.......


https://youtu.be/lZ97s396kb0

Jul 16 15 03:03 pm Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

Brian Diaz wrote:

Yep.  Even the original "news" report about this leaps from "I wouldn't buy this for my 4 year old," to "Parents are FURIOUS!!!1one"

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/295397 … ts-furious

My response on that video:

"This is actually funny... the puritan dad is embarrassed to answer the question why Princess Leia has this chain around her neck... WHILE HE HIMSELF is wearing this big ass chain necklace around his own neck! Look at the size of that thing!  Small minded people need to find something to be upset about... GEEZ!!!"

Jul 16 15 03:08 pm Link

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Wye

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada

udor wrote:

My response on that video:

"This is actually funny... the puritan dad is embarrassed to answer the question why Princess Leia has this chain around her neck... WHILE HE HIMSELF is wearing this big ass chain necklace around his own neck! Look at the size of that thing!  Small minded people need to find something to be upset about... GEEZ!!!"

The guy in the video isn't the dad from the story...

Jul 16 15 03:14 pm Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

DOUGLASFOTOS wrote:
Here is what Carrie Fisher has to say about her Metal Bikini Suit.......

https://youtu.be/lZ97s396kb0

I really... really enjoyed her roast!!! That was awesome!

"I hope I slept with YOU to get this job, because if not... who the hell was that guy?borat

Jul 16 15 03:15 pm Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

Wye wrote:
The guy in the video isn't the dad from the story...

Different video!

Look at the original newsclip that Brian provided... that is the original dad who complaint.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/295397 … ts-furious

The first video, that long haired guy... he was not complaining about the doll... he was complaining about the dad who tried to get the doll removed as being inappropriate!

Jul 16 15 03:18 pm Link

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Wye

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada

udor wrote:

Different video!

Look at the original newsclip that Brian provided... that is the original dad who complaint.

The first video, that long haired guy... he was not complaining about the doll... he was complaining about the dad who tried to get the doll removed as being inappropriate!

Ah cool.. I didn't see it (I don't have flash on my computer so it doesn't show up automatically).  Just watched it.

I think he's being ridiculous, to be honest. The star wars universe is filled with guns and murder and general mayhem but selling a toy with guns.. A-OK.. selling a toy with a woman in a scantily clad outfit.. "crap".  Absolutely ridiculous.

But at the same time.. it is what it is.. The guy in the video from the OP has blown this guys opinion *completely* out of proportion.. he's making it sound like there's some huge grassroots movement to ban these dolls (and judging by his general demeanour he might feel they're trying to kill his pets too).

Jul 16 15 03:24 pm Link

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fsp

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New York, New York, US

just more stupidity.

Jul 16 15 04:02 pm Link