hapiemedia wrote:
I will look for the study but the answer is yes a study has been done and the conclusion was that the registries have not reduced sex crimes.

Personally I think the registries should only be used for specific things like employment where you are around children. 

There are tons of stories about absurd restrictions placed on sex offenders that just make no sense.  An adult male, married for 20 years and 3 children was prevented from attending his daughters high school graduation due to being a convicted sex offender.  Does anyone in their right mind think he was going to commit a sex crime at a high school graduation ?

My next door neighbor is a registered sex offender.  He brought his computer into a repair shop about 15 years ago and someone found some underage porn images on it.  He agreed to a plea bargain that let him off with no jail time, but a place on the sex offender registry.  I don't think a month goes by when someone doesn't remind me that my neighbor is on the list.  The city PD also mails his photo along with the offender sheet to everyone in the neighborhood once a year and, as an annual event, the local paper puts his photo on the front page every Halloween to remind people that sex offenders are not allowed to hand out trick or treat candy.  People usually skip our whole block.  I've seen very few T or Ters in the past few years.

I can see the active predators on lists like this, but putting absolutely everyone on forever seems like overkill.  It would seem to make more sense to warn people that someone has been convicted of burglary or put warning signs on the cars of people with DUI convictions.

MN Photography wrote:
I can see the active predators on lists like this, but putting absolutely everyone on forever seems like overkill.  It would seem to make more sense to warn people that someone has been convicted of burglary or put warning signs on the cars of people with DUI convictions.

It's America, where in some regions you can get on a sex-offenders list when you take a piss in public.

I think the extreme measures in too many situations are simply a reflection of the puritanical heritage of the society and laws that are still employed.

Other western, educated non-puritan countries have their sex offenders... but those are actual predators who are pedophiles and rapists, not some teenager who took a nude selfie and sent it to her boyfriend or a person who grabbed someone's genitals or so... The latter is assault, but also can put you on a sex-offenders list for the rest of your life in this country.

Something went overboard a long time ago...

Hunter  GWPB wrote:
Why is that society has decided that we must be warned of sex offenders, and only sex offenders?  Why isn't there a list of people who have committed violent crimes?  Of people that assault their spouses?  People that are likely to scam you?  People that have committed DUI?  Litterbugs?  Why isn't every parking ticket made available for public scrutiny?

It's a mirror image of the culture of violence is good and natural, while sex-stuff is really... really bad, which reflects in media and how movies and tv shows are being edited and rated.

"50 Shades of Grey" is so "controversial" in the US with an R rating, while France rated it for viewers age 12 and up, which was not unanimous, because some members of the rating board said it shouldn't have any rating at all and being view-able by everybody at every age, because there is nothing really bad going on... except maybe the script...

Lovely Day Media wrote:
Do you think it's a good thing? Do you think it's a thing that started with good intentions but has been skewed out of line so the benefits are gone? Do you think it's a bad thing?

Sure, come down hard on people that abuse little kids. But shooting a nude of a 17 year old and the rest of the legal nightmare that goes along with it is bullshit. The US of A is the porn capitol of the world.

Wheeling Tog wrote:
Sure, come down hard on people that abuse little kids. But shooting a nude of a 17 year old and the rest of the legal nightmare that goes along with it is bullshit. The US of A is the porn capitol of the world.

If they wanted to give people who abuse children (we're talking adults here) long jail sentences (starting at 25 years), I wouldn't say a word against it. If they wanted to start a public registry with people who committed a crime on or after ______ date (in the future), I wouldn't have said a word about that, either.

Last week, though, someone sent me a link to a youtube video that I found quite compelling.  It's long (almost an hour) but I found it to be pretty fascinating.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8iUzGXIxRg  If I had seen this when they were starting the registry, I would not have liked it much.  It's not because sex crimes of any type are good on any level in my eyes but because there is a much more sinister function going in the background.

Lovely Day Media wrote:

If they wanted to give people who abuse children (we're talking adults here) long jail sentences (starting at 25 years), I wouldn't say a word against it. If they wanted to start a public registry with people who committed a crime on or after ______ date (in the future), I wouldn't have said a word about that, either.

Last week, though, someone sent me a link to a youtube video that I found quite compelling.  It's long (almost an hour) but I found it to be pretty fascinating.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8iUzGXIxRg  If I had seen this when they were starting the registry, I would not have liked it much.  It's not because sex crimes of any type are good on any level in my eyes but because there is a much more sinister function going in the background.

Very very interesting link.

Lovely Day Media wrote:
If they wanted to give people who abuse children (we're talking adults here) long jail sentences (starting at 25 years), I wouldn't say a word against it. If they wanted to start a public registry with people who committed a crime on or after ______ date (in the future), I wouldn't have said a word about that, either.

Last week, though, someone sent me a link to a youtube video that I found quite compelling.  It's long (almost an hour) but I found it to be pretty fascinating.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8iUzGXIxRg  If I had seen this when they were starting the registry, I would not have liked it much.  It's not because sex crimes of any type are good on any level in my eyes but because there is a much more sinister function going in the background.

This is in America?  Interesting video.

udor wrote:
It's America, where in some regions you can get on a sex-offenders list when you take a piss in public.

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Udor......I doubt its as simple as that. Imagine a pervert exposes himself to a child in public. What do you think each one of those perverts says when the police come knocking?  But officer I really had to go and I wasnt going to make it to the restroom,so I pulled it out and suddenly a kid came into view and saw!

If people had your view...none of these perverts would ever be arrested...so... This is probably why the law takes a more serious view of "peeing in  public"and as distasteful as it is for you ....takes People pulling out their sexual organs in public areas seriously. This isnt germany where women renting out their vaginas like an Arbys drive thru is considered enlightenment. There are consequences here for pulling out genitals in public.

Tony From Syracuse wrote:
Udor......I doubt its as simple as that. Imagine a pervert exposes himself to a child in public. What do you think each one of those perverts says when the police come knocking?  But officer I really had to go and I wasnt going to make it to the restroom,so I pulled it out and suddenly a kid came into view and saw!

If people had your view...none of these perverts would ever be arrested...so... This is probably why the law takes a more serious view of "peeing in  public"and as distasteful as it is for you ....takes People pulling out their sexual organs in public areas seriously. This isnt germany where women renting out their vaginas like an Arbys drive thru is considered enlightenment. There are consequences here for pulling out genitals in public.

Sorry Tony, but you are not properly informed!

I think that you should take a look at the video link posted above by Lovely Day Media. It was done by an investigative journalist and all the facts, not opinions in that video can be googled and he encourages to google them.

So, yes, in some counties, you can be arrested and charged as a sex offender, not when you take a piss in direction of a kindergarten playground, but secluded against a wall and someone sees you!

Information is not a negative thing, you know!

Btw., I think you have a really strange and backward idea on what constitutes enlightenment! Are you really sexually so repressed that you can't get over the fact that Germany decriminalized prostitution, which made life safer for those women who work in the sex trade?

I guess you very much prefer that women who work in that area are being beaten and exploited by pimps, don't have healthcare or general protections through Unions etc. Do you hate women that much? Are sex-workers the scum of the earth or sub-human to you, not deserving rights???

Natural Light on Location wrote:
When everybody is on the list, what do we do then?

Watch the video I posted a link to earlier.

hapiemedia wrote:

I will look for the study but the answer is yes a study has been done and the conclusion was that the registries have not reduced sex crimes.

Personally I think the registries should only be used for specific things like employment where you are around children. 

There are tons of stories about absurd restrictions placed on sex offenders that just make no sense.  An adult male, married for 20 years and 3 children was prevented from attending his daughters high school graduation due to being a convicted sex offender.  Does anyone in their right mind think he was going to commit a sex crime at a high school graduation ?

Does anyone in their right mind think he was going to commit a sex crime at a high school graduation ?
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