thiswayup wrote:
How good a friend?

well, not iPad good although that would be awesome.

FIFTYONE PHOTOGRAPHY wrote:
I'll ask this here in hopes of a response from those in the know...

I have a Friend who's Birthday is coming up, Her dream is to Model, is getting serious and wants to start a book.

My intention is to buy Her one, question is which one??

does it matter?

what size???

any recommendation?

Thanks.

What does your friend look like and whats her stats?

FIFTYONE PHOTOGRAPHY wrote:
I'll ask this here in hopes of a response from those in the know...
I have a Friend who's Birthday is coming up, Her dream is to Model, is getting serious and wants to start a book.
My intention is to buy Her one, question is which one??
does it matter?
what size???
any recommendation?

Thanks.

There's some good advice here:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post/1797

And in my experience every agency girl I ever met in Shakey Town had a 9x12 book. It's big enough for 8x10s or tearsheets.

Images by MR wrote:
What does your friend look like and whats her stats?

Hi,

She's My current avatar, stats on Her page.

Eagle Rock Photographer wrote:

There's some good advice here:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post/1797

And in my experience every agency girl I ever met in Shakey Town had a 9x12 book. It's big enough for 8x10s or tearsheets.

Thank You!!!

FIFTYONE PHOTOGRAPHY wrote:

Hi,

She's My current avatar, stats on Her page.

Fashion agencies want girls at least 5'9"

Images by MR wrote:

Fashion agencies want girls at least 5'9"

In Shakey Town there are plenty of pro models 5'8" or even a little shorter. Granted, there isn't much high-fashion here and there's a lot of swimwear/sportswear and sexy/figure stuff.

Images by MR wrote:
Fashion agencies want girls at least 5'9"

There's a local girl who walked in Paris at 5' 8", not to be argumentative but I'm not sure if the 5' 9" minimum holds true.

Can't hurt for Her to try.

FIFTYONE PHOTOGRAPHY wrote:

There's a local girl who walked in Paris at 5' 8", not to be argumentative but I'm not sure if the 5' 9" minimum holds true.

Can't hurt for Her to try.

In the real world of fashion modelling height & looks are everything.

Girls don't need any photos to walk in and visit the local agency.    If they sign her is one thing getting paid work is another.

Eagle Rock Photographer wrote:

In Shakey Town there are plenty of pro models 5'8" or even a little shorter. Granted, there isn't much high-fashion here and there's a lot of swimwear/sportswear and sexy/figure stuff.

Well I'm not talking about Shakey Town

Images by MR wrote:
Well I'm not talking about Shakey Town

Nor is the OP querying about fashion let alone runway... Yes 5'9" is germane for runway...

That said the top agency is DC signs 5' 4" talent for Print... I've worked with many of their talent, they are amazing. Here are their Submission Requirements
MR the OP's location (Uniontown, Pennsylvania) is within T.H.E. Artist Agency marketing area...

Keep in mind there is little if any recompense for runway and/or catwalk other than cloths...
The revenue stream for the lion's share of agency models comes primarily from catalog... this has been confirmed by nearly all the agency talent I've collaborated with...  albeit at the top end, major campaigns are into the $K's

Besides print, promo modeling is also an option since it has a much more relaxed height requirement...
Another option would be acting but she would likely be walking into a cold read on her first open call there...

As for books? a 12x12 allows for both vertical & horizontal 9x12's to be placed so the book doesn't have to be turned... Yes this can matter...  However in my minds eye a Zed Card is likely the appropriate first step in marketing... books are optional and if she does get signed the agency will want their visual statement showcased which will likely result in very few if any of her current book being used...

From the T.H.E. Submission Page: "Professional photographs are not required for submission."
They want Polaroid style imagery... no facial expression, no makeup, hair not styled, and not altered in post processing. This requirement is ubiquitous amongst major agencies... 

Hope this helps FIFTYONE...
All the best...

ArtistryImage wrote:

Thanks so much for this valuable information.

Images by MR wrote:
Well I'm not talking about Shakey Town

ArtistryImage wrote:
Nor is the OP querying about fashion let alone runway... Yes 5'9" is germane for runway...

That said the top agency is DC signs 5' 4" talent for Print... I've worked with many of their talent, they are amazing. Here are their Submission Requirements
MR the OP's location (Uniontown, Pennsylvania) is within T.H.E. Artist Agency marketing area...

Keep in mind there is little if any recompense for runway and/or catwalk other than cloths...
The revenue stream for the lion's share of agency models comes primarily from catalog... this has been confirmed by nearly all the agency talent I've collaborated with...  albeit at the top end, major campaigns are into the $K's

Besides print, promo modeling is also an option since it has a much more relaxed height requirement...
Another option would be acting but she would likely be walking into a cold read on her first open call there...

As for books? a 12x12 allows for both vertical & horizontal 9x12's to be placed so the book doesn't have to be turned... Yes this can matter...  However in my minds eye a Zed Card is likely the appropriate first step in marketing... books are optional and if she does get signed the agency will want their visual statement showcased which will likely result in very few if any of her current book being used...

From the T.H.E. Submission Page: "Professional photographs are not required for submission."
They want Polaroid style imagery... no facial expression, no makeup, hair not styled, and not altered in post processing. This requirement is ubiquitous amongst major agencies... 

Hope this helps FIFTYONE...
All the best...

Where did the OP state which type of model agency his friend wanted?

Images by MR wrote:
Where did the OP state which type of model agency his friend wanted?

I didn't, the only question posed was about a portfolio book. You seemed to raise the Agency topic and ArtistryImage was kind enough to provide information that could quite possibly be beneficial to My friends quest. On the other hand Your comments seemed to have a negative tone for reasons unknown.

?

Images by MR wrote:

In the real world of fashion modelling height & looks are everything.

Girls don't need any photos to walk in and visit the local agency.    If they sign her is one thing getting paid work is another.

Yes to this, at her age she is able to go to open castings. I recommend going back to the same place that may reject her the next month or in a few more months later.

I think that can't hurt too.

Jen

Images by MR wrote:
In the real world of fashion modelling height & looks are everything.

Girls don't need any photos to walk in and visit the local agency.    If they sign her is one thing getting paid work is another.

You keep saying "fashion", why?  You do understand that there is high fashion, aka fashion editorial, and commercial work, and they have different requirements?

Well, apparently you don't, but it's true. And most of the work is in commercial, not high fashion.

This young lady would stand no chance at all in high fashion, but she's just about tall enough for commercial and has the girl-next-door look favoured for commercial.

Images by MR wrote:
Where did the OP state which type of model agency his friend wanted?

He didn't. You're the one who seems too have assumed high fashion, even though it was the least likely possibility...

M A R K wrote:
Some of you guys might want to take a look at what a proper model has to say about portfolios generally and tablet devices specifically:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/education/m … portfolios

Isn't what shes talking about with regards to having a portfolio something you would get after signing with a agency?

Images by MR wrote:
Isn't what shes talking about with regards to having a portfolio something you would get after signing with a agency?

Of course.

For freelance internet models the use of tablets for portfolio presentation is widespread. If you go to a model/photographer networking event in the UK virtually everyone there will be keen to flash their stuff on their devices - both models and photographers. Not a single printed book in sight.

IMO the model the OP referenced won't be accepted by a reputable agency - her best bet would be freelance internet modelling so a tablet is good advice for her if the use of technology in the US is anything like it is in the UK. Investing in a printed book would be bad advice for her particular circumstances IMO.