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walterfantauzzi

Posts: 210

Rome, Lazio, Italy

Ho Guys,

I need to make a shooting still life for commercial producs like this.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18058944/FORUM/IMG_4332.JPG


Can I use tempera?

thanks
w.

Jan 17 17 04:27 am Link

Photographer

Zack Zoll

Posts: 6895

Glens Falls, New York, US

I'd test it out, but probably not. Tempura doesn't have very dense pigmentation, and would probably become transparent when thinned enough to do this shot.

You could use a high end artist's acrylic thinned with drying extender, but I'm guessing your best option is a good latex house paint, only slightly thinned with extender. That will give you the opacity and thickness you see here, and it will dry with soft edges like at the top of the image; water-based artist's paints dry harder, and will often crack when thinned and put on in thick layers or pools.

Latex is also a lot easier to get off after the shoot is over.

Keep in mind that the paint in your image is probably not 100% opaque; most likely, the see-through bits are fixed in post.

Jan 17 17 07:27 am Link

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nolongerhere

Posts: 173

Chiredzi, Masvingo, Zimbabwe

I'm wondering if this was a liquid at all. It looks to me as though it could have been a sheet of latex or plastic film with carefully cut holes.

Jan 17 17 07:57 am Link

Photographer

Zack Zoll

Posts: 6895

Glens Falls, New York, US

Good point! Make a base shot with film, do a second shot with red paint and any old hand and watch, and put the ripples and shading from the second shot on the first.

Great observation.

Jan 17 17 11:28 am Link

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Mike Collins

Posts: 2880

Orlando, Florida, US

If I were to recreate the shot I'd go with a gallon (or so) of latex paint and a pan that is about 4 inches deep.  Doesn't need to be a big pan.  About 18 inches long and about 15-18 inches wide.  Fill it up with paint and slowly lower the hand in the shot and stop when you think it's right.  Hand may even rest on the bottom of the pan for support. 

I do some trial runs with water first to see how much paint you will need.

Jan 17 17 01:26 pm Link

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walterfantauzzi

Posts: 210

Rome, Lazio, Italy

Hi Guys thanks for your reply I'll try to find Latex color here (italy) mmmm I don't know if we have it

Jan 18 17 01:03 am Link

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Zack Zoll

Posts: 6895

Glens Falls, New York, US

walterfantauzzi wrote:
Hi Guys thanks for your reply I'll try to find Latex color here (italy) mmmm I don't know if we have it

I don't know about Italy, but in the US it's the default interior pain type at most hardware stores. You're unlike to find latex an an art store.

Jan 18 17 04:06 pm Link

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Vector One Photography

Posts: 3722

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

It's either thick paint or wet latex, so latex paint is a good answer. Look at the base of the thumb and see how the edge of the red looks, don't think that could be cut.  Also, look where the red appears to climb up the edge of the watch on the left side just as a liquid would.

Jan 19 17 10:20 am Link

Body Painter

Eric Mayhem

Posts: 481

Seattle, Washington, US

The dull finish and wrinkles are unlike normal paint.  Maybe we should think outside the box - is cake frosting liquid enough to do this?

Edit:  http://www.wookmark.com/source/37476/www-kistudio-info

Jan 19 17 07:18 pm Link

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Michael Bots

Posts: 8020

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

The color may be added in post  (commercial product shots can have a lot of time spent on them)
          The liquid may be something as simple as honey or sugar syrup
                     (mask / isolate the liquid and treat as a separate layer)


see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bD4ts8eWY
      completely synthetic visuals - including Daniel Craig's digitized face

Oily Secrets of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo's Title Sequence
https://www.wired.com/2012/01/dragon-ta … ng-titles/

Art of The Title   -   The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo
http://www.artofthetitle.com/title/the- … on-tattoo/

Jan 20 17 01:36 am Link

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alexphotog

Posts: 593

New York, New York, US

This came from their prop stylist. It's a polymer base with a pigment. There's a special formula used in fake blood, that does not stick to skin or material. So it's not paint based, but liquid polymer that has a dye added to it. I'd find a good prop stylist to work with, they'll know. You'll need to do a lot of testing before you can come up with this formula. I'd be shocked if latex paint gives you the clean edges.

Also, note the hand will have to go in, not come from the bottom up.

Jan 20 17 09:02 am Link