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Wanted some ideas on the best places to post for an intern. I'm working on a coffee table book and need someone to do the type. It's unpaid but they would receive credit. Have tried on my Facebook page with no luck, was thinking of Craigslist? Looks like the castings on here are just photographer, model, etc. College boards only let you post if you're a company and I'm not. Since it's not something that can done over the computer I don't think being near by is an issue. Mar 17 17 02:23 pm Link That doesn't actually sound like the task for an intern. -The internship, even though it includes actual operation of the facilities of the employer, is similar to training which would be given in an educational environment; -The internship experience is for the benefit of the intern; -The intern does not displace regular employees, but works under close supervision of existing staff; -The employer that provides the training derives no immediate advantage from the activities of the intern; and on occasion its operations may actually be impeded; -The intern is not necessarily entitled to a job at the conclusion of the internship; and -The employer and the intern understand that the intern is not entitled to wages for the time spent in the internship. Among other things that involve getting credit. As in hours toward education not a byline. Have a peek at this. http://www.eanj.org/newsroom/thinking-h … mer-beware Mar 17 17 02:37 pm Link Credit for a self published vanity book? Ya, try craigslist... Watch you post get flagged for being a scam in 5 minutes . If you need a graphic designer then hire one, or trade something of actual value, not credit on an experimental "passion project". If you DO have a good following and people clamoring to help you on your projects then ask your fan base direct. Mar 17 17 03:10 pm Link Twisted Images wrote: There is something wrong with that last sentence. Should it be: "since it is"? Mar 17 17 03:26 pm Link Nothing for something. Mar 17 17 03:59 pm Link Twisted Images wrote: that's not what "intern" means. it is not free labor. an intern gets to learn a real job under a mentor where the experience is educational and receive school credits that apply to graduation. a curt notice in a self published book that may or may not sell a few copies by an unknown author is not "credit". Barry Kidd Photography wrote: that quote is incorrect and out of context. there is the full text: Mar 17 17 04:20 pm Link Barry Kidd Photography wrote: I used to work at a Fortune 50 company, and we "hired" a lot of interns during the summer. They were a lot of work for us regular people, because we provided training, mentors, structured social activities, educational events, and meaningful (though admittedly non-critical) projects. Mar 17 17 04:49 pm Link Oh brother, this is exactly why I avoid MM lately, snarky comments. Sorry that my project is deemed unworthy and is spam. Mar 17 17 08:47 pm Link Twisted Images wrote: Hey, I'm sorry you feel that way, but you'll run into the negative, jealous and snarky people every where on the 'net. Mar 17 17 09:26 pm Link Twisted Images wrote: Oh, I am so sorry that you have been treated poorly here. We all should have just jumped on the bandwagon and encouraged you to break the law and abuse someone with your project. (How is that for snark?) You made a post and we gave you our perspective. Obviously, you recognize that your project has some short comings or you would have explained to us why we are wrong in our perspective. Instead, you just used some snark of your own. Mar 18 17 02:18 am Link Twisted Images wrote: I think you’re being a bit unfair. Mar 18 17 03:07 am Link People expect to be paid for work otherwise you have to justify why they should work with you for free. In my experience, those that can do that do so, those that cannot have a strop! Mar 18 17 03:51 am Link Twisted Images wrote: Sorry that reality and your opinion are so far apart. Mar 18 17 04:28 am Link Hunter GWPB wrote: +1 Mar 18 17 06:42 am Link Twisted Images wrote: I think you are getting the wrong message here. Several of us have tried to inform you that what you seek does not fall under the legal definition of internship. With those of us with experience and/or knowledge of the matter, we think you are laboring under false assumptions. Mar 18 17 07:49 am Link Twisted Images wrote: If you have any experience on Craigslist then you will KNOW that these sorts of (work for free) projects ARE in FACT flagged as spam over & over again. Us educating you on this is not snark, it is a lesson that you can learn from those who are more experienced or you can go to Craigslist & waste time learning it yourself. Mar 18 17 07:52 am Link Twisted Images wrote: It's not that your project is unworthy, its just that most people have a hard time understanding why you would pay for the cameras, computers, and printing to make the book-but not a critical creative collaborator. Mar 18 17 08:50 am Link i would take from your reply that you have not read any of the links provided nor thought about what has been said on the many good posts about this subject. what you want to do may be illegal. in new jersey, the fine is $10,000 per incident plus additional fees & possible jail time. since the intern process has been much abused, it is a prime target for state labor boards. "If your business is investigated by the DOL, the repercussions could be serious. An employer who violates the minimum wage requirements not only must pay the intern minimum wage and overtime for the time worked, but is liable for an equal amount as liquidated damages. 29 U.S.C. § 216(b). If the employer is sued, then it can also be liable for attorneys' fees and costs. Moreover, a person who willfully violates the FLSA may be fined up to $10,000 per violation and faces potential prison time." as an example, have a friend that was working for a local business. they had her work through lunch and had her work extra hours after "work" without additional pay. this is absolutely against the labor laws in the state. told them to go to the labor board and the state labor board came down on the business like a ton of bricks. evidently this was the third infraction. they got their state license pulled and were penalized fees, charged back taxes, plus had to pay retroactively all their employees. http://nj1015.com/paid-or-unpaid-interns-have-rights/ https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs71.htm “They’d have grounds to either file a claim with the Department of Labor, or a lawsuit,” Caminiti said Many times, employers aren’t trying to get away with having work done on the cheap. They could be unfamiliar with the rules, perhaps just helping a friend’s kid gain experience in the field. But in this case, no good deed goes unpunished. Twisted Images wrote: snarky? some of those replies were from experienced and thoughtful people trying to inform you of a mistaken perception. what the employer thinks is right is not relevant - you must meet the criteria defined by law and the courts. your project (i.e. the precious book) is your problem. the use of a intern for labor is what we addressed. Mar 18 17 09:08 am Link I guess this begs the question: If some random guy on the street asked you to do photography (as an intern for credit) for his self-published book, would you do it? Mar 18 17 09:09 am Link People who have commented here have attempted to help you, some going so far as to quote Labour law. You should really thank them all for being so helpful. You are making a mistake in that one or two may be potential customers for your book. Getting offeneded and then showing you're offended is something to think about--alienating helpful people is never in your interest. Mar 18 17 11:26 am Link The advise that you resent is advise which will keep you clear of US Labor Relations Board action against you. A simple Thanks would suffice. Mar 31 17 01:35 pm Link |