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Johnny Manziel wins Heisman
Anyone else surprised that a freshman was voted as the Heisman winner? I kinda thought Te'o was going to end up with the trophy. Dec 08 12 07:16 pm Link It's not been a good year for Mormons, I tell ya. Dec 08 12 10:10 pm Link Manziel got most of his stats against vastly inferior competition including the tough non league schedule that all SEC teams play: Sam Houston State, South Carolina State, SMU and Louisiana Tech. He won the Heisman for one good game against quality opponent, winning vs. Alabama. He got hammered against LSU and Florida with no TD passes and three interceptions. His only other success against ranked teams were with 300 yard passing games against Miss. State and La Tech, the 50th and 120th (out of 120) ranked passing defenses in the country. The most deserving player finished fourth, Marquise Lee of USC who dominated his position like no other player this year. Dec 09 12 01:15 am Link considering the three guys on stage, no. it was a pretty weak year overall, heisman wise. Let There Be Light wrote: this, although he wasn't going to win, playing on a five loss team. Dec 09 12 01:50 am Link GK photo wrote: True, but four of SC's losses were to the BCS #1, #4, #6 and #17 teams. The other loss was to Arizona which was a top 10 team at one point. And remember, USC doesn't play a weak-ass schedule like SEC teams such as Texas A&M. Dec 09 12 02:29 am Link Orca Bay Images wrote: Maybe not for Romney but it's been a very good year for Te'o. Dec 09 12 02:33 am Link I really think that there should be two Heismans...one for offense and one for defense. Since they almost always go to an offensive player. Wildcat Dec 09 12 10:42 am Link Paul AI wrote: Ehhh...the field was pretty weak this year but still Manziel was more hype than production. He beat Alabama yes but her also stunk up the place in several other games but it always goes to an offensive player so no huge surprise. Dec 09 12 11:16 am Link Naughty Ties wrote: and there's the rub. without that win, no heisman for him. the influence that pathetic conference has over anything college football is ridiculous. i'm just shocked that the usual sec honks aren't crowing yet. even they must realize that a&m hasn't been in the conference long enough yet for that. Dec 09 12 11:30 am Link Let There Be Light wrote: But couldn't win the biggest individual award. Kinda like Mitt. Dec 09 12 01:09 pm Link My feeling is that Johnny Football is not as good as Oregon's Mariota, another freshman. Oregon had a better year and is higher ranked than Texas A&M, and Mariota ran a more complex (and certainly faster paced) offense. But Johnny had a better PR guy, and he didn't suffer from being on a west coast team (and therefore avoided the prejudice). But that's me, an Oregon resident. Dec 09 12 01:25 pm Link Someone at SB Nation decided to compare Manziel's number with other quarterbacks, not just those with Heisman Trophies. He's a freshman! It remains to see how well he'll do in the 2013 season. At least, he'll face real competition during the Cotton Bowl. Dec 09 12 01:30 pm Link Orca Bay Images wrote: But football's not an individual game. The biggest award comes on January 7 so Te'o still has a shot at that one. Dec 09 12 02:47 pm Link Did Texas A&M fans win the award for least creative nickname? Dec 09 12 03:10 pm Link "And if you see Johnny football hero in the hall Tell him he played a great game Tell him you like his article in the newspaper" Nada Surf pretty much nailed that one... Dec 09 12 03:53 pm Link WHO! Dec 09 12 04:05 pm Link Let There Be Light wrote: If football's not an individual game (I'm not saying it is), maybe we should quit giving out individual awards. Dec 09 12 04:30 pm Link HEISMANziel Dec 09 12 08:46 pm Link Orca Bay Images wrote: great point, especially to college athletes. Dec 09 12 09:18 pm Link Art Silva Photography wrote: The Heisman Trophy has absolutely no bargaining power for the NFL. How much did winning the Heisman help Eric Crouch (drafted in the 3rd round as a wide receiver) Troy Smith (drafted in the 5th round) or Jason White (undrafted free agent) in the NFL draft? Dec 09 12 09:41 pm Link Let There Be Light wrote: With the number of Heisman winners who were complete busts in the NFL...haha. Dec 09 12 10:29 pm Link |