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KC ImageWorks

Posts: 622

Tonganoxie, Kansas, US

I have been using continuous lighting exclusively and am about to invest in a complete strobe system.  While I would love to go with Broncolor or Profoto, the budget simply won't allow it unless I wanted to make do with less lighting now and build over time.

So, at this point, I am leaning towards Elinchrom - using a combination of two Digital Rx pack/head systems and a couple of monolights.  They seem to offer a good variety of modifiers at mostly decent pricing, especially compared to Profoto and Broncolor.  The Skyport system looks pretty cool, too.

I am looking for feedback from those who either own or have actually used this equipment.  How does the build and reliability stack up over other systems?  Any other pros/cons?

Thanks in advance!

May 03 09 10:07 pm Link

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StephenEastwood

Posts: 19585

Great Neck, New York, US

in general, they have fast flash duration, consistent light output shot to shot, great accessories, though somewhat limited, and in general expensive over some competitors, durable, and reliable.  I switched out for endorsement reasons, not quality reasons, and I know a few who still use and love them, especially Akos Simon.  I am mainly broncolor and speedotron with hensel sets as well now, but could have just as easily stayed with them over the hensel, at the time I preferred the hensel ring and octahaze, which is now the same unit that elinchrom is offering.  The octabank is the best designed of all octabox type accessories (as it is a bounce/diffuse/secondary diffuse source unlike most that are more like octagon shaped softboxes.




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May 03 09 10:15 pm Link

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nwprophoto

Posts: 15005

Tonasket, Washington, US

You get a very solid performing light with some of the best
modifiers out there. Even many of the Profoto users use
Elinchrom Rotalux boxes. The Skyport RX system is awesome.

May 03 09 10:30 pm Link

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Carlton Chong

Posts: 860

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I use the Elinchrom BX400 series strobes with the Skyport remotes. I like the new specs for the BX500Ri series. I'd love to get the 600RX series but they were a little out of my price range. So far, no complaints, lots of accessories for them and never had any issues with them. I'd like to add a couple more units to my collection and was also thinking of getting the Ranger Quadra setup.

If you use umbrellas, you might want to check and see if they fit in the Elinchrom units. I don't think the Elinchrom umbrella mounts are standard size and are actually smaller in diameter.

May 03 09 10:34 pm Link

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WAR

Posts: 256

Bulawayo, Bulawayo, Zimbabwe

nwprophoto wrote:
You get a very solid performing light with some of the best
modifiers out there. Even many of the Profoto users use
Elinchrom Rotalux boxes. The Skyport RX system is awesome.

Yup, I'm one of those Profoto users that have their octas smile

May 03 09 10:36 pm Link

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nwprophoto

Posts: 15005

Tonasket, Washington, US

Carlton Chong wrote:
If you use umbrellas, you might want to check and see if they fit in the Elinchrom units. I don't think the Elinchrom umbrella mounts are standard size and are actually smaller in diameter.

The 7mm brollies are getting a lot easier to find.

May 03 09 10:39 pm Link

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MikeBelobradic

Posts: 503

Hillsburgh, Ontario, Canada

I have waded into strobes using Elinchrom's D4Lite setup with SkyPort triggers. Love the system and am thinking of upgrading to a higher end Elimchrom setup as I expand my studio. I would recommend their stuff.

May 04 09 02:50 am Link

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Stuart Mackenzie

Posts: 1

Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

I love the Elinchrom gear and have been using it for years. Recently I upgraded my old strobes for 2 RX Ranger packs and bought another second hand from the US. They are awesome to work with, fast recycle, weather proof cases and I also use the skyports to remotely trigger and adjust the units. I would have considered the Profoto units but cost was a factor. Hensel also make some nice units that I also considered.

May 04 09 03:24 am Link

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WMcK

Posts: 5298

Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom

nwprophoto wrote:

The 7mm brollies are getting a lot easier to find.

But does anyone still use umbrellas?

May 04 09 03:26 am Link

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JeF Briguet

Posts: 119

Leytron, Valais, Switzerland

Disclaimer: i'm not very partial on the subject as i visit Elinchrom HQ's almost weekly. smile

Anyway, I've used Elinchrom's lights extensively for the last couple of years and i love them. I travel with my Rangers RX a lot, i've used them at -10°C in steep freeride spots, i've covered them with snow.. I never had any problem, they are very reliable (in and out of the studio).

As long as you stay away from the BX/FX/Dlight line (long flash duration, entry-level quality), you'll be fine.

The ringflash design is identical as the Hensel, so you can use the new Hensel modifiers (this is something that's missing in the Elinca offering).

In the past i've used Profoto, Hensel, Visatec and Broncolor (hey, i'm Swiss). But Elinchrom service is top notch and this is very important when you shoot for a living.

May 04 09 08:51 am Link

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StephenEastwood

Posts: 19585

Great Neck, New York, US

WMcK wrote:

But does anyone still use umbrellas?

only the really, really amateurs and the really, really professionals.  The in betweens use all sorts of contraptions to make up for things  wink

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May 04 09 08:54 am Link

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JeF Briguet

Posts: 119

Leytron, Valais, Switzerland

WMcK wrote:
But does anyone still use umbrellas?

Huh? Umbrellas are you friend!

May 04 09 08:56 am Link

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Chip Willis

Posts: 1780

Columbus, Georgia, US

Happy Elinchrom user here.

I have the older units, the non digital 250 w/s mono, and 3 500 w/s monos. Solid performers, consistent output and fast recycle ( and can work on inverters as well ).

The main reason I bought them was = Found a great deal on them used and I love the modifiers. The 27" silver lined beauty dish is the best one I have ever used ( I used to own the profotos as well and love this one better). The modifiers aren't insanely prices as well. Eventually my system will evolved to all profoto one day, maybe, but for now, Elinchrom is perfect.

May 04 09 08:57 am Link

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DAVcreative

Posts: 16

Miami, Florida, US

if you go elinchrom and want good build, skip the BXRI and dlite series, they are good build but both really cant handle the bigger size modifiers

I have a dlite 4 with my ranger A heads and it can only handle the 53" octa, i have the 74 on the ranger heads as well as the el strip softlite softbox.

The light output is phenomenal, from stop to stop it is accurate. 

skyports also can change the output from the computer to so that is a huge plus.

just some thoughts, i need to get a photog account on here soon

May 04 09 09:31 am Link

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WAR

Posts: 256

Bulawayo, Bulawayo, Zimbabwe

WMcK wrote:

But does anyone still use umbrellas?

I still do, can't beat the simple setup smile

May 04 09 09:38 am Link

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Stephen Dawson

Posts: 29259

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I am very happy with my pair of 600RX mono heads. Got them just as they came out, about 4 years ago.

I use them with soft boxes and the usual collection of modifiers (snoot, barn doors, gells).

The 1/10 stop adjustment is more than I need, but I do like the solenoid controls.

They are reasonably portable and durable.   

Recommended.

May 04 09 09:48 am Link

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Sean Baker Photo

Posts: 8044

San Antonio, Texas, US

I love our Ranger packs + heads - the build & quality are unbeatable.  Skyports are nice, but my copy at least interferes with my 5D sad and the transmitters are not durable.  Convenient, yes; tough, no.

May 04 09 09:54 am Link

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JeF Briguet

Posts: 119

Leytron, Valais, Switzerland

Sean Baker wrote:
Skyports are nice, but my copy at least interferes with my 5D.

I have the same problem with the 1st generation Skyport and my 5D mark II (especially outdoor).

I heard they are working on a new version with faster sync and better quality.

May 04 09 09:57 am Link

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Sean Baker Photo

Posts: 8044

San Antonio, Texas, US

JeF Briguet wrote:
I heard they are working on a new version with faster sync and better quality.

big_smile

May 04 09 10:01 am Link

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nwprophoto

Posts: 15005

Tonasket, Washington, US

WMcK wrote:
But does anyone still use umbrellas?

Sometimes you want splashy.

May 04 09 10:07 am Link

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JeF Briguet

Posts: 119

Leytron, Valais, Switzerland

nwprophoto wrote:

Sometimes you want splashy.

Speaking of umbrella's versatility..

I was shooting some artist portraits a couple of weeks ago in the street of Paris.
As we didn't have time to ask for a permit (you can't use tripods without permit in Paris), i used a ringflash hooked to a Ranger RX. I screwed a umbrella-to-tripod adapter on the ringlflash mount and used a white shoot-thru umbrella.

Result: a very portable setup without any tripod (you can hold the ringlflash by the grip).

May 04 09 10:18 am Link

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KC ImageWorks

Posts: 622

Tonganoxie, Kansas, US

Thanks to all who replied.  I'm feeling pretty confident in my choice here and am looking forward to placing an order shortly! smile

May 04 09 04:54 pm Link

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Vanishing Point Ent

Posts: 1707

Los Angeles, California, US

JeF Briguet wrote:
Disclaimer: i'm not very partial on the subject as i visit Elinchrom HQ's almost weekly. smile

Next time you go to HQ, could you please ask them to create an adapter cord to power the Quantum X strobes with the new Quadra 400 w/s pack.

You don't have to tell me, I'm ahead of the curve, I've been told that before.

May 04 09 05:37 pm Link

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GC1

Posts: 220

Paris, Île-de-France, France

JeF Briguet wrote:

Speaking of umbrella's versatility..

I was shooting some artist portraits a couple of weeks ago in the street of Paris.
As we didn't have time to ask for a permit (you can't use tripods without permit in Paris), i used a ringflash hooked to a Ranger RX. I screwed a umbrella-to-tripod adapter on the ringlflash mount and used a white shoot-thru umbrella.

Result: a very portable setup without any tripod (you can hold the ringlflash by the grip).

u dont need a permit to shoot with a tripod in Paris as long as it's not a pro shoot with more than 8-10 people and dont block the traffic and pedestrians
i do it all the time

Oct 28 10 02:49 am Link

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Fred Greissing

Posts: 6427

Los Angeles, California, US

KC ImageWorks wrote:
.... While I would love to go with Broncolor or Profoto, the budget simply won't allow it unless I wanted to make do with less lighting now and build over time....

So, at this point, I am leaning towards Elinchrom - using a combination of two Digital Rx pack/head systems and a couple of monolights.  They seem to offer a good variety of modifiers at mostly decent pricing, especially compared to Profoto and Broncolor.  The Skyport system looks pretty cool, too.


Thanks in advance!

I have been using Elinchrom for about 25 years. Never had a flash fail.
Definitely on par with Broncolor and Profoto that I have used them often at rental studios.

Elinchrom of the three has the most consistancy between flash and pilot light, especially when using spots and Leko lights (Elinchrom Zoom Spot). This is an issue that I have forund to be very annoying with broncolor, especially with their big fresnel spot.

I do quite elaborate lighting with the use of many flags, cutters and fingers to shape my light way beyond what grid, spots and softboxes can achieve. For this reason very good correlation between pilot light and flash is very important. With Broncolor A shadow cast by a small cutter can be totally different between flash and pilot light.

Here is an example of what I do:

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/091211/23/4b234d204b24e.jpg

This is not an issue if you are bouncing the light or using umbrealla and softboxes, but I don't like that kind of light too much.

Another advantage of Elinchrom over Broncolor is that Elinchrom also makes cheal entry level monolights, so there is a vast selection of cheap accecories if you want to try different things out.

Regarding you choice of mixing Packs with monolights keep one thing in mind.

If you are going to mix them make sure you get monolights that have corresponding pilot light power and flash power to your packs.

If your pack is a 1,200ws with a 300 watt pilot light you will want to get a 1,200 watt monolight with the same powered pilot light. This is so you will get proportional pilot light for when you setup your shoots.

Oct 28 10 09:41 am Link

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Samuel Gustav

Posts: 148

Lisbon, Lisboa e Vale do Tejo, Portugal

StephenEastwood wrote:

only the really, really amateurs and the really, really professionals.  The in betweens use all sorts of contraptions to make up for things  wink

Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

+1

Oct 28 10 06:52 pm Link

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Greg Christman Photo

Posts: 21

Denver, Colorado, US

I have been using four Elinchrom packs for 14 years, they are work horses. I have used Broncolor, Norman and Speedotron. Elinchrom is by far the most dependable. I've only had one minor issue and that is the connector trays on the pack. I've had a couple break from careless assistants trying to shove them in without seating the toe in right.
There are great reflectors and the Octalights are incredible. I wouldn't buy anything else personally.

Oct 28 10 07:03 pm Link

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Numael D Hernandez

Posts: 1129

San Francisco, California, US

nwprophoto wrote:
You get a very solid performing light with some of the best
modifiers out there. Even many of the Profoto users use
Elinchrom Rotalux boxes. The Skyport RX system is awesome.

Agreed.  Great performance, including Skyport.  Minor annoyance is separation of  silver surface edges in some octaboxes.

Oct 28 10 07:12 pm Link