Makeup Artist
Flawless Sha
Posts: 89
BRONX, New York, US
can anyone tell me about the brand name Kustom Paint for body painting..good or bad ? thank you
Body Painter
Lisa Berczel
Posts: 4132
New Castle, Pennsylvania, US
BigA-LTL-BEEFCAKE Page wrote:
Home Depot. Srsly.  Um. NO. Not funny.
To the OP... can you provide a link? Kustom Paint is a vague search as the "K"ustom is HUGE in the airbursh/automotive community.
Makeup Artist
Monkey
Posts: 12755
Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Even "C"ustom Paint brings up a lot of automotive results. BigA-LTL-BEEFCAKE Page wrote:
Home Depot. Srsly. This isn't OT and you're not that funny.
Photographer
Photo Visions
Posts: 1034
Cape Coral, Florida, US
I used "Clean Color" from Michael's Craft Stores
it is non-toxic and washes off with water.
Makeup Artist
Monkey
Posts: 12755
Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Photo Visions wrote:
I used "Clean Color" from Michael's Craft Stores
it is non-toxic and washes off with water. Again... Not funny.
Body paint was made for a reason.
Body Painter
Lisa Berczel
Posts: 4132
New Castle, Pennsylvania, US
Photo Visions wrote:
I used "Clean Color" from Michael's Craft Stores
it is non-toxic and washes off with water. NO.
This is not a safe OR respectful suggestion.
YOUR MODEL GOT LUCKY if nothing went wrong.
And before anyone starts yammering about how "expensive" body paint is... Palmer's is like $4 for 8 oz.
Damn if I'm not in a mood today.....
Photographer
Studio-B
Posts: 1239
Central, Alaska, US
When I Googled Kustom Paint, I came up with auto sites, not human body paints. I would suggest you stick to well known, name brand body paints. I've used Kryolan, Ben Nye and Mehron. You can find them at a lot of places. I usually order from Special Effects Supply: http://www.fxsupply.com/makeup/mu_body.html
Photographer
Studio-B
Posts: 1239
Central, Alaska, US
Photo Visions wrote:
I used "Clean Color" from Michael's Craft Stores
it is non-toxic and washes off with water. Lisa Berczel wrote:
NO.
This is not a safe OR respectful suggestion.
YOUR MODEL GOT LUCKY if nothing went wrong.
And before anyone starts yammering about how "expensive" body paint is... Palmer's is like $4 for 8 oz.
Damn if I'm not in a mood today..... +1
I know a model who got terribly sick when a photographer cheaped out and used paint that was not FDA approved for use on human skin.
Body Painter
Lisa Berczel
Posts: 4132
New Castle, Pennsylvania, US
Studio-B wrote:
When I Googled Kustom Paint, I came up with auto sites, not human body paints.
I would suggest you stick to well known, name brand body paints. I've used Kryolan, Ben Nye and Mehron. You can find them at a lot of places. I usually order from Special Effects Supply:
http://www.fxsupply.com/makeup/mu_body.html 
I've order from FXSupply... and would recommend them to anyone as they have a wealth of FX to offer.
A site that caters to face/body paint is www.sillyfarm.com
Makeup Artist
Monkey
Posts: 12755
Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Studio-B wrote:
+1
I know a model who got terribly sick when a photographer cheaped out and used paint that was not FDA approved for use on human skin. *breathes a sigh of relief*
At least not ALL of you care about price/ease of purchase over the safety of your models! 
Body Painter
Lisa Berczel
Posts: 4132
New Castle, Pennsylvania, US
Laura Maria wrote:
At least not ALL of you care about price/ease of purchase over the safety of your models! Where's my damn soap box!!!!
I demand my Soap Box!
Makeup Artist
Monkey
Posts: 12755
Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Lisa Berczel wrote:
Where's my damn soap box!!!!
I demand my Soap Box! I made you one!
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I don't think photobucket liked it though... It made it fuzzy!
Body Painter
Lisa Berczel
Posts: 4132
New Castle, Pennsylvania, US
Photographer
Philipe
Posts: 5302
Pomona, California, US
Laura Maria wrote:
Even "C"ustom Paint brings up a lot of automotive results.
This isn't OT and you're not that funny. This what I mean by bad recommendations...
Home depot? You got to be kidding..........
Model
Big A-Larger Than Life
Posts: 33451
The Woodlands, Texas, US
Laura Maria wrote:
Even "C"ustom Paint brings up a lot of automotive results.
This isn't OT and you're not that funny. Ouch. Let go of that firm grip you have on my baws there, Aussie. What is this, national flog the giraffe day? Gah! I know normally I'm a sarcastic jackass, but on this post I was actually being serial. When I got painted they said it's much cheaper and easier to just use basic paint and a simple little sponge or brush like they did rather than true 'makeup paint' or other fancy stuff. I dunno. It seemed to work well, at least for me. We didn't run into any problems. Most people when they see the pics though don't realize that we did it so simply and think I was airbrushed or something lol. Nope. Anyways, I suppose the way we did it won't work for everyone, but it worked well for us. Okay, there, I said it. MUA's go back to flogging the giraffe now. Don't hit my face though. It hurts!
Model
Big A-Larger Than Life
Posts: 33451
The Woodlands, Texas, US
Lisa Berczel wrote:
NO.
This is not a safe OR respectful suggestion.
YOUR MODEL GOT LUCKY if nothing went wrong.
And before anyone starts yammering about how "expensive" body paint is... Palmer's is like $4 for 8 oz.
Damn if I'm not in a mood today..... Well at least in my defense, I was just the model, not the painter! 
Model
Big A-Larger Than Life
Posts: 33451
The Woodlands, Texas, US
Studio-B wrote:
Photo Visions wrote:
I used "Clean Color" from Michael's Craft Stores
it is non-toxic and washes off with water. +1
I know a model who got terribly sick when a photographer cheaped out and used paint that was not FDA approved for use on human skin. What happened to her?
Makeup Artist
Monkey
Posts: 12755
Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Big A-Larger Than Life wrote:
Well at least in my defense, I was just the model, not the painter! You told the model to use it. Very stupid thing to do.
I don't care about your "baws".
Makeup Artist
Flawless Sha
Posts: 89
BRONX, New York, US
thank you to all for the serious replies.. appreciate it.
Kustoms.. i found have also a bodypaint which is for the human body fda approved..incase anyone was interested.
again thank you !!!
sha~
Body Painter
Mythical Ink
Posts: 448
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Big A-Larger Than Life wrote:
Ouch. Let go of that firm grip you have on my baws there, Aussie. What is this, national flog the giraffe day? Gah! I know normally I'm a sarcastic jackass, but on this post I was actually being serial. When I got painted they said it's much cheaper and easier to just use basic paint and a simple little sponge or brush like they did rather than true 'makeup paint' or other fancy stuff. I dunno. It seemed to work well, at least for me. We didn't run into any problems. Most people when they see the pics though don't realize that we did it so simply and think I was airbrushed or something lol. Nope. Anyways, I suppose the way we did it won't work for everyone, but it worked well for us. Okay, there, I said it. MUA's go back to flogging the giraffe now. Don't hit my face though. It hurts! I am an aussie- if you want to go cheap get derivan or Tim Gratton- they won't hurt you although they will dry out your skin and flake after a while. You can buy Derivan at spotlight
edit: sorry, thought you were aussie- the australian accent doesn't sound like that, or like south park speak, serial al gore
Body Painter
Lisa Berczel
Posts: 4132
New Castle, Pennsylvania, US
Flawless Face wrote:
thank you to all for the serious replies.. appreciate it.
Kustoms.. i found have also a bodypaint which is for the human body fda approved..incase anyone was interested.
again thank you !!!
sha~ I'd still like to see a link.... always looking to play with new colors!
Makeup Artist
Erin Chaney
Posts: 719
Brooklyn, New York, US
I feel so lucky that I live a 15 minute drive from the fxsupply.com peeps! It's so cute, it's just a little cluttered office like any other, except for all the severed heads and models of arms and crazy stuff like that all over. It looks like a madman's workshop.
Makeup Artist
Jaha Beauty Services
Posts: 28
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Studio-B wrote:
When I Googled Kustom Paint, I came up with auto sites, not human body paints.
I would suggest you stick to well known, name brand body paints. I've used Kryolan, Ben Nye and Mehron. You can find them at a lot of places. I usually order from Special Effects Supply:
http://www.fxsupply.com/makeup/mu_body.html I've purchased Ben Nye Liquid colors for body paint and they crack horribly!! Did I buy the wrong product?? I notice here you suggest Ben Nye. . . Please advise ([email protected])
Body Painter
Mythical Ink
Posts: 448
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Erin Chaney wrote:
I feel so lucky that I live a 15 minute drive from the fxsupply.com peeps! It's so cute, it's just a little cluttered office like any other, except for all the severed heads and models of arms and crazy stuff like that all over. It looks like a madman's workshop. I'm so jealous- I have to order everything online 
Body Painter
BodyPainter Rich
Posts: 18107
Sacramento, California, US
Jaha Beauty Services wrote:
I've purchased Ben Nye Liquid colors for body paint and they crack horribly!! Did I buy the wrong product?? I notice here you suggest Ben Nye. . . Please advise ([email protected]) I,ve never been a big fan of BenNye products, but any paint will crack if it goes on too thick.
Photographer
Ray Holyer
Posts: 2000
I'm not out to cause trouble here, but what is wrong with the sort of paint they have in kindergarten? The kids, their hair, their clothes, the walls, get covered in the stuff and it all comes off and no-one gets harmed or sued.
I'm a usedtobe artist, and I could use the stuff on paper, and probably a body, too, but I wouldn't know where to start with real bodypainting paint.
Photographer
ARTFORMS
Posts: 571
Greenville, South Carolina, US
I was told that water based Tempera paint works well.
Makeup Artist
MP Make-up Artistry
Posts: 5105
Prince George, British Columbia, Canada
ARTFORMS wrote:
I was told that water based Tempera paint works well. Ray Holyer wrote:
I'm not out to cause trouble here, but what is wrong with the sort of paint they have in kindergarten? The kids, their hair, their clothes, the walls, get covered in the stuff and it all comes off and no-one gets harmed or sued.
I'm a usedtobe artist, and I could use the stuff on paper, and probably a body, too, but I wouldn't know where to start with real bodypainting paint. the problem is these products were designed to go onto paper not skin, the paint its self can cause horrible break outs, skin irritations, stain the skin , and could cause scaring if the person who is covered in it has a really bad reaction...
these products are not designed to stay on the skin for a long period of time, and thus can cause issues...
I dont know about you but I wouldnt want to be covered in anything that was not tested and found to be safe on the skin...
kids pains do wash off but you dont see kids panted head to toe for several hrs in the stuff.. usually just on their hands for less than half an hour...then washed off...the skin on your hands is much tougher than that of your body...
I've seen 1st hand the results of being painted with kids "safe" tempera paints , the models skin was stained blue and red for about 5 days... a "fake-up" artists told her it was safe , the model was trusting and and in the end it cost her other jobs as her skin was stained.. it was really noticeable...
So I guess if you dont mind possible causing a reaction or staining the model.. fly at at... but f you have a model who knows her rights you may get sued....
Personally I think the risk is to high , especially when there are 100's of great products on the market for reasonable prices....
Makeup Artist
jdm
Posts: 1221
New York, New York, US
I don't mean to keep this thread further off topic, but a point I don't see being articulated as much as that not only are cosmetics meant for to be used on humans, but if something does happen and you're haven't covered you legal behind, it's a lot harder for you to justify a terrible reaction to a product that isn't meant for use on human flesh as opposed to products that are. A model's job is too be as blank a canvas as possible, and you book a model based on how they can perform. If they have an allergy to latex, you don't book them for a liquid latex shoot. If they have an allergy to silicone, you don't use dimethicone on them. A much murkier situation arises when you introduce non cosmetic pigments into the game, and where a model who's shot before can say "Hey, MAC foundation makes me break out", they may not always be in a situation where tempura (or house) paint is involved so they may not even know if they're allergic until minutes/hours/days after the shoot has wrapped. Why people want to make things harder and dismiss the opportunities out there confuses me. Also, I googled "Kustom Paint Body Paint" and "Kustom Body Art Airbrush" and this was all that turned up, aside from eBay listings -- before I got sick of digging that is. No reviews, but pricing if you're interested. If I were you though, I'd probably stick to more established brands like OCC, Temptu, Kett, etc., but I'm also not a body painter, so... http://www.tcpglobal.com/airbrushdepot/abtatpaint.aspx
Body Painter
Lisa Berczel
Posts: 4132
New Castle, Pennsylvania, US
Flawless Face wrote:
thank you to all for the serious replies.. appreciate it.
Kustoms.. i found have also a bodypaint which is for the human body fda approved..incase anyone was interested.
again thank you !!!
sha~ I followed the link that Jack dug up (more dedicated than I).
So, it is alocohol based body paint, not for use on the face.
Basically, it looks like a temporary tattoo product that has been developed/packaged/branded and marketed to non-makeup industry airbrush artists. The "Kustom" tells me the demographic is male, self taught artists who live in the world of automotive/motorcycle Kustom Graphics.
I'm glad to see that proper products are more prominently marketed to this community.
This is the community I STARTED IN - and know full well that these are usually guy's guys who have no knowledge of what trained makeup artists understand about skin and safety.
After all, for this crowd, Non-Toxic in and of itself is such a HUGE step up from the isocyanates "wuuses who wear respirators" use every day. The same people who use One Shot striping enamel as body paint. Those that TRY to do good use Createx.
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