liz yu wrote:
never.

+1

Jordan Liberty wrote:
It's just etiquette to keep your daily kit and professional kit separate. Seriously.

It's one thing to practice a look now and again with the makeup in your kit - but your personal makeup should really not make its way into your kit.

+ 1

MakeupEnvy wrote:

Jordan Liberty wrote:
It's just etiquette to keep your daily kit and professional kit separate. Seriously.

It's one thing to practice a look now and again with the makeup in your kit - but your personal makeup should really not make its way into your kit.

+1. Seriously.

Jordan Liberty wrote:
It's just etiquette to keep your daily kit and professional kit separate. Seriously.

It's one thing to practice a look now and again with the makeup in your kit - but your personal makeup should really not make its way into your kit.

Hi Jordan, I have no doubt that you are right, but, as an outsider to the industry, I'm wondering whether you would share, with me, the reasons why this is the case.

Denise wrote:
Sanitation, professionalism.

Denise, I'll assume that this is a reply to my post. Perhaps I'm just being dense, but I still don't follow. I would have assumed that if it's possible to use makeup on different models from a sanitary perspective, it should also be possible to use the makeup personally too. I'm also not very clear about what would make it unprofessional.

Davepit wrote:
Denise, I'll assume that this is a reply to my post. Perhaps I'm just being dense, but I still don't follow. I would have assumed that if it's possible to use makeup on different models from a sanitary perspective, it should also be possible to use the makeup personally too. I'm also not very clear about what would make it unprofessional.

Personal makeup is not sanitized between uses - glosses, mascaras, and other products come in constant direct contact with the skin. These are products that become contaminated and should not be used on another person.

True, a MUA sanitizes his products between models - but the products never become contaminated to begin with. This is a huge example of why a personal kit should stay separate from a sanitized kit designed for clients.

Aside from the skeevy bacterial perspective - using personal products on clients is bad practice in any field (it's really poor etiquette)...I'm surprised I have to explain it.

Jordan Liberty wrote:

Personal makeup is not sanitized between uses - glosses, mascaras, and other products come in direct contact with the skin. These are products that become contaminated and should not be used on another person. True, a MUA sanitizes his products between models - but the products never become contaminated to begin with. Aside from the skeevy bacterial perspective - using personal products on clients is bad practice in any field (it's really poor etiquette)...I'm surprised I have to explain it.

Ah, I see - I simply assumed that a MUA would follow the same hygiene practices when using makeup on him/herself, including using wands and separate cleanable brushes. Do you still think that it is bad etiquette even if those precautions are followed? I find what you said about mixing business and personal products in any field bad etiquette interesting, simply because I couldn't think of any other field in which resources are shared between clients where that is the case. For example, I use the same computer for both personal and business use. My mechanic services his car in his shop. My cleaner cleans her house with her vacuum cleaner, and my gardener uses his equipment in his own garden.

Davepit wrote:
Ah, I see - I simply assumed that a MUA would follow the same hygiene practices when using makeup on him/herself, including using wands and separate cleanable brushes. Do you still think that it is bad etiquette even if those precautions are followed? I find what you said about mixing business and personal products in any field bad etiquette interesting, simply because I couldn't think of any other field in which resources are shared between clients where that is the case. For example, I use the same computer for both personal and business use. My mechanic services his car in his shop. My cleaner cleans her house with her vacuum cleaner, and my gardener uses his equipment in his own garden.

I think what everyone is trying to say is.. maybe we're not so sanitary with our personal make-up.. but very sanitary with our professional make-up.. and to mix the two would be confusing and probably not turn out well.

EDIT: also, using disposables is a pain in the ass.. it's much easier to just buy a few doubles of products we really love.

Davepit wrote:

Ah, I see - I simply assumed that a MUA would follow the same hygiene practices when using makeup on him/herself, including using wands and separate cleanable brushes. Do you still think that it is bad etiquette even if those precautions are followed? I find what you said about mixing business and personal products in any field bad etiquette interesting, simply because I couldn't think of any other field in which resources are shared between clients where that is the case. For example, I use the same computer for both personal and business use. My mechanic services his car in his shop. My cleaner cleans her house with her vacuum cleaner, and my gardener uses his equipment in his own garden.

Does your doctor share his own advil? How about needles?

Does the chef at your restaurant serve you food he cooked at his home?

Does your masseuse offer you a towel that she showered with earlier that day?

Or how about your facialist? Does she use soap from her bathtub at home?

Gardening tools, vacuums, and computers don't touch your face:) We're talking about products and services that involve touching and working with the human body. If sharing makeup doesn't skeeve you out, I have no business arguing with you. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Maria Yeye wrote:

I think what everyone is trying to say is.. maybe we're not so sanitary with our personal make-up.. but very sanitary with our professional make-up.. and to mix the two would be confusing and probably not turn out well.

EDIT: also, using disposables is a pain in the ass.. it's much easier to just buy a few doubles of products we really love.

Ah, that's fair enough. It's late here and I'm a bit slow - thanks

Andrea Martini wrote:
I think the topic really took a turn...most people are saying they dont use their personal makeup on other people. I was under the impression the OP wanted to know if us MUAs used items in our professional kits on ourselves.

My personal makeup doesnt ever touch anyones but my own face. period. ever.
I have however used items out of my kit...by scraping or scooping some out, the same as I would have for a client. example-a lip tar color that I wanted to try or experiment with...a yaby shadow...a blush.

+1

Though I rarely use makeup from my kit on myself, I follow the same sanitary procedures I would if I were using that item on anyone else.

Andrea Martini wrote:
I think the topic really took a turn...most people are saying they dont use their personal makeup on other people. I was under the impression the OP wanted to know if us MUAs used items in our professional kits on ourselves.

My personal makeup doesnt ever touch anyones but my own face. period. ever.
I have however used items out of my kit...by scraping or scooping some out, the same as I would have for a client. example-a lip tar color that I wanted to try or experiment with...a yaby shadow...a blush.

Yeah... it took a little turn

I wasnt implying that the necessary sanitary precautions wouldnt be taken. Just seems hard to have a bunch of fantastic products and not use them yourself

ND Retouch wrote:
Just seems hard to have a bunch of fantastic products and not use them yourself

Strangely enough I do not find it that hard. For me my kit is to work from, just working material. My own make-up is just my own make-up to play with.
I do not know if you are familiar with the term "sunday's clothes" ? This means the clothes you only wear on sunday (when going to church) and looking at your best and very neat. These clothes will NEVER be worn on another day in the week. For me...... my kit are sunday's clothes, NEVER to be used on my own face. You know there is a saying that says a bartender who is his own best customer is a lousy bartender. For me using my own kit on me would feel like that.

Maybe the hard part is explaining that this is a way of keeping work and private seperate.

liz yu wrote:
never.

+1

Kit and personal stash are never to be mixed.

Andrea Martini wrote:
I think the topic really took a turn...most people are saying they dont use their personal makeup on other people. I was under the impression the OP wanted to know if us MUAs used items in our professional kits on ourselves.

My personal makeup doesnt ever touch anyones but my own face. period. ever.
I have however used items out of my kit...by scraping or scooping some out, the same as I would have for a client. example-a lip tar color that I wanted to try or experiment with...a yaby shadow...a blush.

me too

Andrea Martini wrote:
I think the topic really took a turn...most people are saying they dont use their personal makeup on other people. I was under the impression the OP wanted to know if us MUAs used items in our professional kits on ourselves.

My personal makeup doesnt ever touch anyones but my own face. period. ever.
I have however used items out of my kit...by scraping or scooping some out, the same as I would have for a client. example-a lip tar color that I wanted to try or experiment with...a yaby shadow...a blush.

+1, that is, when I do rock makeup.  For this past Halloween weekend, I had a Cinema Secrets palette that I kept for myself which came in handy, and any makeup I pulled from my kit gets sterilized after use.

A lot of the time, if I get a new product I like to try it out on myself if I don't have anyone to try it on with just to get a sense of how the product operates.